Rage room scene Dew was magnificent. I noticed how scared Jira was, how brave and how honest. Each time he flinched, I narrowed my eyes - nobody deserves to feel unsafe in another person's presense.
And I could not take my eyes away from Pheem, finally - finally! - telling the truth. Not the redacted version of himself and his feelings, but the honest response to falling in love for the first time. We learn how he actually views that feeling - it is about being pathetic and not getting what he wants (another red flag: what he feels entitled to).
But it is this honesty that finally breaks the emotional barrier between him and Jira, and Jira's charcoal is finally flying over the canvas to capture what he sees. It is what Pheem wanted to hide and not show to Jira that opens up a connection - and maybe an answer as to whether Jira can be romantically attached to Pheem as well as he cares for him.
I felt touched and pained at how Pheem listed his achievments. He used it as some sort of shield that cannot save him and does not protect him from the pain of unrequited love.
It is dangerous and unsafe, though, as it does border with entitlement, and I am very glad that Pheem has such a friend as Mawin, who keeps it real while obviously caring for him. He will need him to come back up from that rock bottom. I hope he takes Mawin's advice to take time for himself.
And yeah - Aran and Tawan should NOT move in together. Letting a person with an obssessive fixation and tendency to violence live together with you is a horrible idea. Tawan will never leave, no matter how Aran might want him to at some point.
Wooh, what and episode. What an amazing performance from everyone involved.
It is painful how Jira wants to be as honest as possible and to care for his own best interests, and how all the things that matter for that are in conflict with one another - and how the one thing that keeps him next to Koh inflicts a wound on all the other parts of himself.
It is touching albeit worrysome to see Pheem processing being in love for the first time, going at it in a wrong way - haven't we all found ourselves on that path, perhaps many times in our lives? People pleasing and molding ourselfes into someone that people will stay with?
It is sorrowful to see how again and again, a person with the most power in the room inflicts the same kind of trauma on the people close to him as he himself had to sustain and did not heal - in Koh's case it is a broken trust.
People heal people, yet all these wounds can be healed with a proper distance from one another and some healing done apart from one another.
Episode 6 of Burnout Syndrome is the emotional breaking point of the series. Everyone ends up more alone, and…
I agree with your points on impact of Koh's actions - he broke many things (including, thankfully, the things that kept Pheem attached to him).
One thing I want to disagree with was that he knew that the answer would be Iris. He had 3 tries - and he took guesses using the flowers that were on Jira's paintings of him. Last episode he learned that one of them was tulips (and not roses, as he falsely assumed), so he started with them. Having both flowers prepared he learned that it were irises - and then he called the butler to decorate his room with the "correct" flowers.
So he did not know that these were irises from the start. It does not make his actions less diabilical in the big picture, of course.
It is true that it is possible to show more of it - but this series is done in the way that leaves many things…
Really? I felt he was clear enough, from the moment of when he responded to Jira's question on whether someone cleans his space. His answer "I don't like having people in my space" - not only the response itself, but the tone of his voice and the look on his face was that of an extremely exhausted man who is surprisingly honest. Well, to the point that he is honest with himself, not more than that, of course.
i think they need to show khol's lack of sleep affecting him which becomes a reason he is so attached and needy…
It is true that it is possible to show more of it - but this series is done in the way that leaves many things untold on purpose. One needs to know things to understand them.
From my prospective, we see enough of it, just not very obviously. To me depicting of Koh's insomnia is so apparent that I even was worried for Off for a while, if he can sleep well after portraying Koh. We constantly see how he cannot sleep, and everyone who went through something similar knows the nauseous feeling, the not really being there feeling and the strong physical contrast of finally having had a good sleep.
Then again, to be able to fall asleep next to someone holds a huge significance in my books as it is very, very rare. I don't show it much because for many people it means they are boring so they feel hurt. But for me if someone falls asleep when talking to me, it means they feel safe and relaxed to the point of falling asleep. I cherish those moments a lot. So maybe with my context it is easier to see Koh's insomnia depiction as obvious and clear.
Episode 10 is the moment Van finally runs out of places to hide.For so long he’s survived on performance. The…
This was so beautifully said, with such a deep insight. Acknowledging all that insight about Van as truthful, I really don't want them to end up together after everything Van did to Farm throughout the series. Just because of how many stories like that in real life with Farms forgiving Vans end up in prolonging Farms'es suffering. I want to see the healthy resolution of "loving someone at the expense of loving myself will only hurt me more".
Does anybody know if the siblings nicknames Lookpeach and Lookplub mean something, i.e. it is some sort of a cute wordplay?
UPD: found it in the YT comments: " 'Look' in this context is a kind of Thai prefix for many rounded fruits. Peach and Plub (persimmon) are such fruit. 'Look' can also be used to call the ones you adore."
there’s something about pheem’s handling of the mawin situation that feels deliberately slow. he never outright…
Many times yes for your points on Pheem, and I also agree with your take on Koh.
I want to add that when it comes to Koh, he has an apparent trauma around relationships which taught him that being seen is dangerous, to the point of him becoming secluded and paranoid. Even with his therapist he never has his camera on. Jira painting a picture of him which suddenly showed him an unknown side of his that he likes seeing is deeply therapeutic. The space of the artist gaze is where he finds the visibility he started craving.
Jira, you are never going to finish any paintings of Pheem, because for some unexplicable reason beyond my comprehension,…
To me it looks like Jira and Pheem are each at a different stage of their relationship. Jira is still asking Pheem: "Do you tell it/do it to everyone?" which is a very first getting-to-know-each-other stage, and Pheem is suggesting Jira to move in with him.
What do you think of Pheem's chest tatoo, is there some meaning behind it?
His tatoo reads 12 1997 - I assume, december of 1997. As all of them are 28 years old, I assume this is a birth month and year. I wonder if December is simply Pheem's birth month or there is something else.
How can I admire him and dislike his character so much at the same time?
Looking at Koh, I wonder how I could sympathise with killers but I cannot find the same kind of sympathy towards a rich guy leading the AI expansion.
Him admitting that he used to have fun playing with people's feelings really appaled me.
And I could not take my eyes away from Pheem, finally - finally! - telling the truth. Not the redacted version of himself and his feelings, but the honest response to falling in love for the first time. We learn how he actually views that feeling - it is about being pathetic and not getting what he wants (another red flag: what he feels entitled to).
But it is this honesty that finally breaks the emotional barrier between him and Jira, and Jira's charcoal is finally flying over the canvas to capture what he sees. It is what Pheem wanted to hide and not show to Jira that opens up a connection - and maybe an answer as to whether Jira can be romantically attached to Pheem as well as he cares for him.
I felt touched and pained at how Pheem listed his achievments. He used it as some sort of shield that cannot save him and does not protect him from the pain of unrequited love.
It is dangerous and unsafe, though, as it does border with entitlement, and I am very glad that Pheem has such a friend as Mawin, who keeps it real while obviously caring for him. He will need him to come back up from that rock bottom. I hope he takes Mawin's advice to take time for himself.
It is painful how Jira wants to be as honest as possible and to care for his own best interests, and how all the things that matter for that are in conflict with one another - and how the one thing that keeps him next to Koh inflicts a wound on all the other parts of himself.
It is touching albeit worrysome to see Pheem processing being in love for the first time, going at it in a wrong way - haven't we all found ourselves on that path, perhaps many times in our lives? People pleasing and molding ourselfes into someone that people will stay with?
It is sorrowful to see how again and again, a person with the most power in the room inflicts the same kind of trauma on the people close to him as he himself had to sustain and did not heal - in Koh's case it is a broken trust.
People heal people, yet all these wounds can be healed with a proper distance from one another and some healing done apart from one another.
One thing I want to disagree with was that he knew that the answer would be Iris. He had 3 tries - and he took guesses using the flowers that were on Jira's paintings of him. Last episode he learned that one of them was tulips (and not roses, as he falsely assumed), so he started with them. Having both flowers prepared he learned that it were irises - and then he called the butler to decorate his room with the "correct" flowers.
So he did not know that these were irises from the start. It does not make his actions less diabilical in the big picture, of course.
From my prospective, we see enough of it, just not very obviously. To me depicting of Koh's insomnia is so apparent that I even was worried for Off for a while, if he can sleep well after portraying Koh. We constantly see how he cannot sleep, and everyone who went through something similar knows the nauseous feeling, the not really being there feeling and the strong physical contrast of finally having had a good sleep.
Then again, to be able to fall asleep next to someone holds a huge significance in my books as it is very, very rare. I don't show it much because for many people it means they are boring so they feel hurt. But for me if someone falls asleep when talking to me, it means they feel safe and relaxed to the point of falling asleep. I cherish those moments a lot. So maybe with my context it is easier to see Koh's insomnia depiction as obvious and clear.
UPD: found it in the YT comments: " 'Look' in this context is a kind of Thai prefix for many rounded fruits. Peach and Plub (persimmon) are such fruit. 'Look' can also be used to call the ones you adore."
I want to add that when it comes to Koh, he has an apparent trauma around relationships which taught him that being seen is dangerous, to the point of him becoming secluded and paranoid. Even with his therapist he never has his camera on. Jira painting a picture of him which suddenly showed him an unknown side of his that he likes seeing is deeply therapeutic. The space of the artist gaze is where he finds the visibility he started craving.