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Really? I felt he was clear enough, from the moment of when he responded to Jira's question on whether someone cleans his space. His answer "I don't like having people in my space" - not only the response itself, but the tone of his voice and the look on his face was that of an extremely exhausted man who is surprisingly honest. Well, to the point that he is honest with himself, not more than that, of course.

As the three main actors said in the reaction to EP5, each of them is a red flag in different episodes, so lets us know who when is redder 😅

It is true that it is possible to show more of it - but this series is done in the way that leaves many things untold on purpose. One needs to know things to understand them.

From my prospective, we see enough of it, just not very obviously. To me depicting of Koh's insomnia is so apparent that I even was worried for Off for a while, if he can sleep well after portraying Koh. We constantly see how he cannot sleep, and everyone who went through something similar knows the nauseous feeling, the not really being there feeling and the strong physical contrast of finally having had a good sleep.

Then again, to be able to fall asleep next to someone holds a huge significance in my books as it is very, very rare. I don't show it much because for many people it means they are boring so they feel hurt. But for me if someone falls asleep when talking to me, it means they feel safe and relaxed to the point of falling asleep. I cherish those moments a lot. So maybe with my context it is easier to see Koh's insomnia depiction as obvious and clear.

This was so beautifully said, with such a deep insight. Acknowledging all that insight about Van as truthful, I really don't want them to end up together after everything Van did to Farm throughout the series. Just because of how many stories like that in real life with Farms forgiving Vans end up in prolonging Farms'es suffering. I want to see the healthy resolution of "loving someone at the expense of loving myself will only hurt me more".

Does anybody know if the siblings nicknames Lookpeach and Lookplub mean something, i.e. it is some sort of a cute wordplay?

UPD: found it in the YT comments: " 'Look' in this context is a kind of Thai prefix for many rounded fruits. Peach and Plub (persimmon) are such fruit. 'Look' can also be used to call the ones you adore."

Many times yes for your points on Pheem, and I also agree with your take on Koh.

I want to add that when it comes to Koh, he has an apparent trauma around relationships which taught him that being seen is dangerous, to the point of him becoming secluded and paranoid. Even with his therapist he never has his camera on. Jira painting a picture of him which suddenly showed him an unknown side of his that he likes seeing is deeply therapeutic. The space of the artist gaze is where he finds the visibility he started craving.

Not every time. For example, in Ep.5 Koh did not appear but Jira stopped trying to draw Pheem himself.

To me it looks like Jira and Pheem are each at a different stage of their relationship. Jira is still asking Pheem: "Do you tell it/do it to everyone?" which is a very first getting-to-know-each-other stage, and Pheem is suggesting Jira to move in with him.

Thank you for the warm welcome! Happy to be here :)

His tatoo reads 12 1997 - I assume, december of 1997. As all of them are 28 years old, I assume this is a birth month and year. I wonder if December is simply Pheem's birth month or there is something else.

What do you think of Pheem's chest tatoo, is there some meaning behind it?

Thank you for the welcome! And for the guideline - I was not fully sure in the correct rules application. All done!

Pheem is such an interesting character.

How many of us believe that it was really his 3rd time in the Burnout bar when he met Jira? According to how people talk about him and to him, it is far from the truth. The storytellers also do not let us forget that he is a playboy - while we see only sweet and thoughtful side of his in his actions with Jira, including those that Jira is not aware of, people who know him better than us and than Jira, tell us in every episode that he is a player, a bad boy and what not.

But most his lies are not even lies - they are half-truths.

When he tells Jira how he and Koh would always compete in the finals, Jira takes it as Pheem smoothly boasting of how brilliant he is, but by this time we know that Pheem actually never won against Koh. So him saying that "when we do not compete, we are OK" actually means "when we don't compete I don't hate him". An even quieter part is, "I don't hate myself for not being able to win over him".

These types of emotions are not helped with a win, I'm afraid, especially in romantic relationships.

He senses that Jira heals him, but what is the healing that he needs? What if his healing is getting his courage together to leave his job and his partnership with Koh? To find a way to trust in himself in that place in the dark that is broken and that he never truly shows others? I wonder if it is rather anger that can get him out there, than love.

Then again, people heal in many different ways. Whatever the healing path, I deeply wish him that he finds it. People deserve to heal and to not hurt.

*Burnout Syndrome, I finally registered here to write a comment about you!*

This story has captivated me, and waiting for 2 weeks instead of 1 is going to be so hard. I love all the 6 actors and I have an immense respect towards all the team for creating this artful masterpiece - and such a strong social commentary that I often forget about the romantic part, absorbed in the dynamics, pain and suffering of the inhumane AI craze of the ruling class.

It is also so surprising for me how after giggling and blushing all the way for Pheem and Jira for 4 episodes straight, I found myself falling out of this charm at episode 5. Mind you, I AM going to watch other Dew's works and I AM interested in his character development, he captured my heart with his acting, style and hotness. However, I started to feel wary of Pheem and I find it harder to trust him as the story goes.

I don't know if it comes more from Jira's responses to him: he consciously likes Pheem, but each time they get closer, he freezes. Be it intimate or art-related. And Jira keeps asking Pheem if his sweet gestures are just a lie ("are you just saying that you like this music?", "do you tell this to everyone" - repeated already more than once). Or maybe it comes also from Pheem's behavior, things like Pheem having a new tatoo - is it even a real one? At the end of episode 2 and in the episode 3 he does not have it - and now he not only knows everything about this exhibition but also has an artsy tatoo that is completely healed? I don't buy it.

And then with the drawing scene... I felt Pheem's behavior violating Jira's boundaries as an artist. He seemed to be eager to pose for Jira for several episodes now, but as soon as he got to this space, he actually did everything to not allow Jira go into his flow. His gaze stayed on Jira for a long time, and then he came over, touched him, basically he does not have his own flow around Jira, he simply fills Jira's space with himself.

Then, Jira had his flow broken already several times by an intimacy with Pheem when he himself wanted that intimacy. I do not fully understand why yet.

I am very curious to see why the are not going to sleep together as the next episode airs.