Sad painting 🎨😔 Pheem keeps wondering why Jira can't draw him as he drew Koh and after finally meeting the…
I wonder if Jira will share with us why he cried looking at his painting of Pheem.
In the novel, when he painted the picture, he realized that romance was possible between him and Pheem, but then Koh came and swept him off his feet, and everything changed. Here though it looks somehow different for me. I wonder what meaning P'Nuchy embedded here.
I am also trying to remember - did Pheem see Koh's paintings or did he know anything about them? I am trying to recall, but it seems to me that he will not know the difference until he sees a picture of Koh.
May I just say how much I love watching JoongDunk reacting to this series - in some ways even more than watching the series themselves. Seeing them laugh, respond emotionally or sharing some behind the scenes stuff is so great.
I gotta say, I watched probably all OffGun series, and it took them a while to grow on me.
What is really beautiful though, is how their first kiss each time is so different - especially with P'Nuchy directing. Emotion, movement, dynamic - each time all of it is new, and witnessing it actually magical.
I have a question about Thee's reference of "lemur". Is there some wordplay or a significance of this word in Thai language/culture?
In EP9 I thought it was just a random word, but I started rewatching the series, and in EP1 when Peach saves Aran from Thee's men, Thee says "don't think you can get away from me, my little lemur". Or is it just a nickname he gave Aran in his mind?
crazy take. Jira wasn't even suppose to be there! Pheem just wanted to deal with his feelings on his own. You…
>On a different note: does it really de-escalate an abusive person's stress? An abusive person doesn't need an excuse to hit someone or verbally attack someone. They don't think anything they do is wrong anyway.
May I ask you how do you the connection here? Do you think that if the act of violence de-escalates an abusive person's stress then it would be OK that they use that as an outlet, or that then it would be OK to endure their outbursts? I think these are 2 separate things but I am confused as what other connection could be put in here.
To your previous point, I cannot tell you how long in my life I wanted to have an access to a rage room, and how often I wanted to scream with all my might. In my case, I know a satisfaction of hitting somthing with all my might, as I played tennis professionally, but after I quit it, I no longer had it in my life anymore so I longed for it long and hard. I can really empathise with the emotion you described, and I wish you very much to find the ways that will allow you to express and feel your anger in a healthy way, without bottling it inside.
As for me, the research on this then also becoming a pattern made me reflect on it. As of now, I think that screaming and hitting things different things. I gotta say, as a woman, it is very hard to assess difference of various angry ir frustrated behaviors because all of them are socially tabooed, and when this taboo is already established, everything behid the line gets the same color and the same weight. But there is a difference there as well.
I finished the series and I am sitting with a wide grin on my face. It was such a pure joy, fun, loud laughter and occasional blush of a series. They managed to deliver a lifetime of cringe with such sincerity that it was no longer cringe and yet it stays so funny. Thank you everyone who worked on this series, it is a gem.
crazy take. Jira wasn't even suppose to be there! Pheem just wanted to deal with his feelings on his own. You…
@pjsart I used to this the same way as you do.
But there has been a research that showed how this not only de-escalates the stress, but makes a person letting rage out this way get accustomed to violence - it is then easier to hit a person as well.
And letting rage out on human beings also de-escalates stress for those who engage in abusive behaviors, for example.
omggggg this comment!!!!❤️❤️i agree with everything you said!! i keep thinking too, like, HOW can pheem…
I get your take on it, and some more clarity indeed would be helpful. When I think of P'Nuchy's works though, I think that part of her artistic language, especially when it comes to the character's emotions, is very subtle. For example, I realized that Koh is strongly drawn to Jira from the get go only after rewatching the series - in the points like him not only drinking wine that Jira left covered by the book, but also purposefully turning it so that to touch the same spot where Jira's lips were.
We also need to remember that all characters are in a state of burnout. It is not uncommon to start behaving "strangely" at this time. He is drawn in by the feeling that he finally can be healed. He has no idea why. But the hard part in those situations is "why not", because it feels like you then deny oxygen for healing to yourself.
I see I am not the only one thinking the culprit is the doctor.
Generally, I get the Thee dramatic music and Peach calm music vibes from this series - murder mystery and romance live their own lives in the same space 😄
omggggg this comment!!!!❤️❤️i agree with everything you said!! i keep thinking too, like, HOW can pheem…
Pheem describes himself as very logical. Giving in to your emotions for the first time can come to this kind of fever dreams I guess. One can't jump over the development stages, and unfortunately, learning to process the pain and heartbreak is a part of it.
I hated every minute of Pheem during that scene so one would argue he was “good” at delivering…..but I hate…
yes to all you've said.
Only I don't hate his needy for love character, as people pleasing and fear of abandonment are part of me, so this emotion resonates with me. He loves for the first time, and it is like having a typically childhood sickness in an adult age - it is much harder.
But he has a good friend by his side who tells him all that sad truth and stands by him. So he has a chance to learn.
For real though, as Joong and Dunk said in heir reaction to episode 4, I think - nothing is moving except for their relationship 😂
In the novel, when he painted the picture, he realized that romance was possible between him and Pheem, but then Koh came and swept him off his feet, and everything changed. Here though it looks somehow different for me. I wonder what meaning P'Nuchy embedded here.
I am also trying to remember - did Pheem see Koh's paintings or did he know anything about them? I am trying to recall, but it seems to me that he will not know the difference until he sees a picture of Koh.
What is really beautiful though, is how their first kiss each time is so different - especially with P'Nuchy directing. Emotion, movement, dynamic - each time all of it is new, and witnessing it actually magical.
In EP9 I thought it was just a random word, but I started rewatching the series, and in EP1 when Peach saves Aran from Thee's men, Thee says "don't think you can get away from me, my little lemur". Or is it just a nickname he gave Aran in his mind?
May I ask you how do you the connection here? Do you think that if the act of violence de-escalates an abusive person's stress then it would be OK that they use that as an outlet, or that then it would be OK to endure their outbursts? I think these are 2 separate things but I am confused as what other connection could be put in here.
To your previous point, I cannot tell you how long in my life I wanted to have an access to a rage room, and how often I wanted to scream with all my might. In my case, I know a satisfaction of hitting somthing with all my might, as I played tennis professionally, but after I quit it, I no longer had it in my life anymore so I longed for it long and hard. I can really empathise with the emotion you described, and I wish you very much to find the ways that will allow you to express and feel your anger in a healthy way, without bottling it inside.
As for me, the research on this then also becoming a pattern made me reflect on it. As of now, I think that screaming and hitting things different things. I gotta say, as a woman, it is very hard to assess difference of various angry ir frustrated behaviors because all of them are socially tabooed, and when this taboo is already established, everything behid the line gets the same color and the same weight. But there is a difference there as well.
It was such a pure joy, fun, loud laughter and occasional blush of a series.
They managed to deliver a lifetime of cringe with such sincerity that it was no longer cringe and yet it stays so funny.
Thank you everyone who worked on this series, it is a gem.
But there has been a research that showed how this not only de-escalates the stress, but makes a person letting rage out this way get accustomed to violence - it is then easier to hit a person as well.
And letting rage out on human beings also de-escalates stress for those who engage in abusive behaviors, for example.
When I think of P'Nuchy's works though, I think that part of her artistic language, especially when it comes to the character's emotions, is very subtle. For example, I realized that Koh is strongly drawn to Jira from the get go only after rewatching the series - in the points like him not only drinking wine that Jira left covered by the book, but also purposefully turning it so that to touch the same spot where Jira's lips were.
We also need to remember that all characters are in a state of burnout. It is not uncommon to start behaving "strangely" at this time. He is drawn in by the feeling that he finally can be healed. He has no idea why. But the hard part in those situations is "why not", because it feels like you then deny oxygen for healing to yourself.
Generally, I get the Thee dramatic music and Peach calm music vibes from this series - murder mystery and romance live their own lives in the same space 😄
Only I don't hate his needy for love character, as people pleasing and fear of abandonment are part of me, so this emotion resonates with me. He loves for the first time, and it is like having a typically childhood sickness in an adult age - it is much harder.
But he has a good friend by his side who tells him all that sad truth and stands by him. So he has a chance to learn.