Really didn't find it that interesting, maybe it was the pacing and the narrative style that was used, rather than just presenting it as part of the story. It would have been more interesting than just the four characters and a lot of flashbacks, where most of the other people did very little. What makes serial killer movies interesting is the chase, mystery, and peeling it off like an onion. This movie was just flat-out serial killer speaking to us but lacked the intrigue or investigative edge.
For a 54-year-old movie, it wasn't bad at all. Zatoichi is such a character; he's blind, but he walks away with no fear. Such a fun watch, just wanted to check it out, but ended up watching the whole thing. It highlights the hard life lived by poor people who often had to be sold into slavery or do sex work at brothels, where they were mistreated. Buying freedom.
I thought it would be like "Stranger's from Hell" but it was hard to distinguish what was happening and what was not. There's alot of violence against women and we can't call that horror.
Fiction doesn’t automatically equal endorsement. Well, not all characters are black and white, sometimes characters…
All good, I get it. I appreciate the banter. Honestly I also get angry and frustrated at some of these stories as a multi-genre watcher. I'm not always thinking rationally.But I still appreciate the effort to tell messy stories, that are not perfect.
I also feel like sometimes the BL community dismiss less than perfect stories. Like they just want the clean,cute straightforward stories and the moment it's complicated there's an outcry.
Fiction doesn’t automatically equal endorsement. Well, not all characters are black and white, sometimes characters…
You did mention "Japan" alot and said they needed to change. My point was just that there's a spectrum of stories being told. S
Anyway, I read the manga and thought it was good. The story is less about judging the relationship and more about showing how a young person navigates identity, connection, and intimacy even in situations that might look questionable from the outside.
Not all Gay people have the privilege of safe space to come out or share their experiences . Sometimes it's with your brother's friend whose also your tutor.
Fiction doesn’t automatically equal endorsement. Well, not all characters are black and white, sometimes characters…
I think it’s fair to critique specific portrayals, but saying a whole genre or even “Japan” should evolve in a certain way feels like overstepping. BL isn’t meant to be morally consistent, it includes everything from wholesome stories to darker or fetish-driven dynamics. Not every story is trying to model healthy behavior.
No one has the authority to dictate how an entire genre or culture should evolve and not all fiction is meant to be morally instructive.
There’s a difference between noticing a recurring trope in what you’ve watched and saying it’s something “Japan” or the industry broadly needs to evolve from.
Anime and manga are massive, with thousands of works across genres, demographics, and themes. So your personal viewing doesn’t represent the whole industry or culture.
Honestly, if you just want straightforward heroes and clear lines between right and wrong, you could stick to something like One Piece (lol) no messy adult × minor dynamics, no moral grey areas, just adventure and character growth.
generally ive come to love Japanese bl, and i come from an intense anime watching background, so i say this with…
Fiction doesn’t automatically equal endorsement. Well, not all characters are black and white, sometimes characters and people are also grey. They are not normalizing anything they're just telling you that some people do this. We shouldn't pretend that it doesn't happen. When writers write they do so from their own culture, social location and society.
As an international fan, you should also realize that you're consuming other people's culture and they will be things you agree or disagree with.
Sometimes authors are exploring, sometimes they're provoking, sometimes they're just telling a story. So saying “this exists, therefore the author endorses it” is often an oversimplification.
saying “BL normalizes X” as if the whole genre does the same thing is factually inaccurate.
It had really great dialogue in terms of talking about infertility, trauma and violence. I think they tried to make it less heavy but the message still came out loud and clear.
Especially in some societies where motherhood is a priced position,being unable to conceive is a heavy burden.
I feel like most of the comments misunderstood the film, or maybe they were too young to understand such a deep topic, and how domestic violence does and messes up people. I think it's a great film told in a very interesting way.
A young man trying to find himself, questioning his violent legacy, and whether or not he will be like his violent father. This is something that a lot of men will not talk about or admit, how their violent upbringing impacted them.
I like that he tied his hands in the end, because he is so scared to be like his father.
An eye for an eye will make you see deathly hollow, really, when they assaulted the victim. Even when victims are dead, they should just worry about the perpetrators.
What makes serial killer movies interesting is the chase, mystery, and peeling it off like an onion. This movie was just flat-out serial killer speaking to us but lacked the intrigue or investigative edge.
There's an industry for them.
There's Replica of Wife and Rebirth of Reiko both of which I've watched in the last year.
I also feel like sometimes the BL community dismiss less than perfect stories. Like they just want the clean,cute straightforward stories and the moment it's complicated there's an outcry.
Anyway, I read the manga and thought it was good.
The story is less about judging the relationship and more about showing how a young person navigates identity, connection, and intimacy even in situations that might look questionable from the outside.
Not all Gay people have the privilege of safe space to come out or share their experiences . Sometimes it's with your brother's friend whose also your tutor.
But he's also not an older guy like that he's like 23.
No one has the authority to dictate how an entire genre or culture should evolve and not all fiction is meant to be morally instructive.
There’s a difference between noticing a recurring trope in what you’ve watched and saying it’s something “Japan” or the industry broadly needs to evolve from.
Anime and manga are massive, with thousands of works across genres, demographics, and themes. So your personal viewing doesn’t represent the whole industry or culture.
Honestly, if you just want straightforward heroes and clear lines between right and wrong, you could stick to something like One Piece (lol) no messy adult × minor dynamics, no moral grey areas, just adventure and character growth.
As an international fan, you should also realize that you're consuming other people's culture and they will be things you agree or disagree with.
Sometimes authors are exploring, sometimes they're provoking, sometimes they're just telling a story. So saying “this exists, therefore the author endorses it” is often an oversimplification.
saying “BL normalizes X” as if the whole genre does the same thing is factually inaccurate.
Especially in some societies where motherhood is a priced position,being unable to conceive is a heavy burden.
Happiness is indeed complicated.
A young man trying to find himself, questioning his violent legacy, and whether or not he will be like his violent father. This is something that a lot of men will not talk about or admit, how their violent upbringing impacted them.
I like that he tied his hands in the end, because he is so scared to be like his father.