maybe long drama is not your cup of tea because compare to other morning drama/long drama this is one of the best.
Not at all, I've watched a lot of some very long soap opera types kdramas, I even did a few reviews of them. I liked parts of the drama, but overall it left me feeling angry for some reason. It just didn't leave me feeling good. Actually, I was angry by the time I finished watching it. The main couple was okay, but the people around them managed to rub me the wrong way. Her ex-hubby and ex-friend, his mother-in-law who treated him like a proxy husband,the kids at the end I just didn't find it heart-warming.
Maybe KBL is just not for me because this was just cringe for me. There was no point where I thought, wow 8/10. It was an irritating watch. I liked the manhwa better, at least some things made sense there.
This was bad, but not so bad. I really liked the story at the beginning, if that had been the whole story it was going to be an entertaining drama. The crazy ex, plus the stalker friend, & the new boyfriend would have made a better drama. Dino/Pepper & Chalam are all sexy and I hope he gets more work in BL dramas. Good Scripts please.
I’m one of those people who really enjoyed this show and just wanted to add two cents on why that is. Mental…
I would have had a totally different reaction if he had gone to find Jihyun without him Jihyun sending him the song. It feels like it's Jihyun that holds the relationship together and plays the saviour trope/white knight till the end. I don't see Jaewon fighting for anything on his own. If I had written the show, I would have made him run all the way to Jihyun and act crazy and confess that he has finally realized his mistake or something. Instead, he went to eat, took a walk and there was no urgency for his love for Jihyeun while Jihyun takes risks for him. Stood up for him when he needed the most and still sent him daily messages (white knighting all the time). This is how people in these types of relationships burn out. If he was feeling better, then he should have called his BF not radio silence. It just doesn't seem like a very healthy relationship to me.
I’m one of those people who really enjoyed this show and just wanted to add two cents on why that is. Mental…
I respectfully disagree with you and feel that the drama was not unique in the way it dealt with trauma as a plot device. I call this the trauma plot/saviour complex scenario. My biggest pet-peeve with such plots is how love is somehow supposed to have healed/saved them, and how somehow the boyfriend is the extension of his trauma counsellor/saviour. Same with how romance novels are all about “saving a bad guy” for the FL. He went straight back to his boyfriend after listening to the song, but neither spoke about what happened like it didn't happen. Jaewon ignored Jihyun so many times and how quickly Jihyun forgave him was just not it for me, it's unhealthy and like I said that's not how couples act. Especially after he almost died, I get his trauma, but I would have loved to see a conversation at least The song solved everything like a magic wand (really).
I really didn't see much growth in Jaewon because his choice to return was not something that he did consciously himself, Jihyun is the one that finds him. I just never saw him fighting for anything, his choices are all about brooding and protecting himself. He even asked his therapist for more meds. I just didn't see him making any effort to change, still lacks boundaries and keeps the toxic people in his life (i.e. his jealous friend) His character was so much better during the first half of the show.
While Mental Health doesn't have a quick fix, let's also be realistic and admit that love doesn't fix Mental Health. No matter how much you love someone, they need to fight for their own mental health. It is crucial for me that dramas depict trauma and its aftermath in a realistic and respectful manner, highlighting the importance of professional help, consent, and healthy coping mechanisms. Jaewon lacks healthy coping mechanisms.
I had fun watching this series. I've come to ignore ratings on MDL whenever I am watching a drama. One last thing…
So true, and the highest rated are only that high because people ship the couple, not because it's a good script or plot. I mean, look at the atrocious and monstrous Boss & Babe.
Maybe there is something wrong with me, but I don't even think this show is worth more than a 7.5. It's okay, but so melodramatic and most of the issues don't even get resolved. Yes, they love each other, but lack of communication will destroy the relationship. Being broody and being emotional is not saying anything, is not communication and not a good foundation for a relationship. Is he going to act like that when they have the next crisis in their relationship? Did he tell his boyfriend that he is on meds?
For those who took exception to the two leads forgiving and resolving their issues with the ex Eun Ji and the…
It wouldn't have hurt the producers to not show us those scenes. It seems like in some cultures (Korean/Thai dramas) it's mandatory to forgive each other and talk about it. In a Jdrama or Jmovie they just move on without ever talking about it. Maybe it's the style of story telling and the number of episodes. Perhaps that's why I like Japanese dramas less fake scenarios and time-wasting scenes. I mean, why would you call him a prize, he's a person that just doesn't love you anymore, plus his friend was fake and rude and always brought out his wealth all the time. He didn't even know that he didn't like talking about it but calls himself a friend. So fake.
Haha, what an HR nightmare this would be in real life. The ML's funny expressions didn't help matters in this drama and the other ML acted so dumb to be a CEO. I couldn't tell if he was trying to be a tsundere character because he never quite succeeds in doing so.
This drama deserves a higher rating. Seriously one of the better BLs that I have watched and I'm a harsh critic. I laughed and smiled so much. Neo was so hilarious in this one. Liked the Mork/Pi combination in this one more than in Never Let Me Go (it's sexier but the story is weak). This story was just perfect and not annoying like most school BL dramas.
I hate myself for having watched this garbage drama. I hate the way the women were tools for the man. I understand it's a sign of the times but doesn't make me feel better.
Is there any need to compare two distinct queer movies. You can complement Egoist without comparing
Maybe there is no need for you, we watch movies/shows for different reasons. The way we consume media is different as well. I mentally compare each and every thing I watch especially if I have high expectations of it and there is something similar to it.Each to his own.
Could you please, briefly give me an idea of how you see Egoist and Dear Tenant as being of the "same genre?"…
Dear Tenant and Eternal Yesterday actually came to my mind when watching the Egoist. But both DT and EY were very persuasive in their execution and emotional story-telling in my opinion. They all revolve around love,death and unintentional family, learning to say goodbye to those who have left, some unresolved grief.
DT and Egoist share the same themes of love,death and unintentional family bond that involved the mother of the partner. Though DT has wider family dynamic issues (uncle,child of partner etc). Both partners pass away and the other partner becomes a sort of replacement son for the mother-in-law (for the lack of a better word) with differing degrees of sadness and success. Both bonds are formed either by guilt or kinship for the shared dead partner of the mother. At the heart of both stories is the concept of family & the question of what is family?.
Haha, I would have to say the way Ryohei crossed his legs and sat on the couch and tried to be affectionate just came off as stiff and forced IMO. He wasn't bad, but he wasn't that convincing to me either.
It's an okay movie but it failed to move me the way those other two did.
Can you tell me, if the firece wife is worth watching? Does it have the same ending? Thank you!
Yeah that's what I meant by "slow torture", most of the decisions she made defy logic and reason. That's also why I say, maybe the drama is a victim of it's time. I have seen Taiwanese & Chinese dramas seem to have more of this type of FL who is so self-sacrificing to the point of stupidity.
Mia also does the same though, I think the FL does live with her ex for a while. The only difference is she made a decision not to involve herself in the life of her cousin who cheated with her husband. She was kind and understanding but maintained her boundaries and distance and never allowed her near her child or her ever again.
In FW, she allows them to live with her (hubby+mistress-cousin) and only comes to her senses when she tries to harm her child.Even the way she was too nice to her ex, he gave her divorce papers while she was in hospital yet she was confused about a back-stabbing man like that.They also seem to attribute the cheating to mental illness for the cousin but do nothing to explain why the husband did it. Her husband was sniveling immature person and she seemed to enable his behavior. That's why I was shocked that 4 years after divorce she was still confused about a man who never put in effort in their relationship. Let me stop, i can feel myself becoming angry at this writer.
The screenwriter Yang Hai WeiI, think I saw somewhere that he is a guy, which explains a lot.
Soooooo the FL ditched the 2ML at the altar (registrar office) because subconsciously she's still in love with…
I don't think she was still in love with her husband. It looked like she was doing everything for her daughter. She was confused because her daughter didn't like the 2ML.Her child was holding her back and she put her own happiness above everyone else.
My only problem with her is her lack of boundaries and indecision. She let her ex-husband come and determine the path of her life. He meddled in her life & she just let him.She was just waiting for something and its not clear what she was waiting for. But I agree that this was even more ridiculous than the whole series, like it's four years later what is she still waiting for.
Dino/Pepper & Chalam are all sexy and I hope he gets more work in BL dramas. Good Scripts please.
I really didn't see much growth in Jaewon because his choice to return was not something that he did consciously himself, Jihyun is the one that finds him. I just never saw him fighting for anything, his choices are all about brooding and protecting himself. He even asked his therapist for more meds. I just didn't see him making any effort to change, still lacks boundaries and keeps the toxic people in his life (i.e. his jealous friend) His character was so much better during the first half of the show.
While Mental Health doesn't have a quick fix, let's also be realistic and admit that love doesn't fix Mental Health. No matter how much you love someone, they need to fight for their own mental health. It is crucial for me that dramas depict trauma and its aftermath in a realistic and respectful manner, highlighting the importance of professional help, consent, and healthy coping mechanisms. Jaewon lacks healthy coping mechanisms.
DT and Egoist share the same themes of love,death and unintentional family bond that involved the mother of the partner. Though DT has wider family dynamic issues (uncle,child of partner etc). Both partners pass away and the other partner becomes a sort of replacement son for the mother-in-law (for the lack of a better word) with differing degrees of sadness and success. Both bonds are formed either by guilt or kinship for the shared dead partner of the mother. At the heart of both stories is the concept of family & the question of what is family?.
Haha, I would have to say the way Ryohei crossed his legs and sat on the couch and tried to be affectionate just came off as stiff and forced IMO. He wasn't bad, but he wasn't that convincing to me either.
It's an okay movie but it failed to move me the way those other two did.
Mia also does the same though, I think the FL does live with her ex for a while. The only difference is she made a decision not to involve herself in the life of her cousin who cheated with her husband. She was kind and understanding but maintained her boundaries and distance and never allowed her near her child or her ever again.
In FW, she allows them to live with her (hubby+mistress-cousin) and only comes to her senses when she tries to harm her child.Even the way she was too nice to her ex, he gave her divorce papers while she was in hospital yet she was confused about a back-stabbing man like that.They also seem to attribute the cheating to mental illness for the cousin but do nothing to explain why the husband did it. Her husband was sniveling immature person and she seemed to enable his behavior. That's why I was shocked that 4 years after divorce she was still confused about a man who never put in effort in their relationship. Let me stop, i can feel myself becoming angry at this writer.
The screenwriter Yang Hai WeiI, think I saw somewhere that he is a guy, which explains a lot.
My only problem with her is her lack of boundaries and indecision. She let her ex-husband come and determine the path of her life. He meddled in her life & she just let him.She was just waiting for something and its not clear what she was waiting for. But I agree that this was even more ridiculous than the whole series, like it's four years later what is she still waiting for.