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Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
Fair point but still by no specific timeline, he didn't meant late 1950's and you can ask any native chinese here. Fans like these were only invented in 1970's after the industrial revolution and great leap forward.
Lets just end it !
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
by the way that fan is a scam and its not made of pure titanium cuz that its very costly material and fan of that size would cost upward of 5k.
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
First the drama is set in "Song Dynasty" and a lot of people have pointed it out due to design of woman clothes, beads on woman face, customs and rites and other factors.
Secondly Song dynasty ended in the 1279 and they were the ones, that introduced the concept of handheld fans to the Japans and the war fans you guys are citing were introduced in the endo period, at-least 300+ years after the end of song dynasty.....so there is no correlation between the timeframes.
You citied a Titanium fan....seriously !
You do realise titanium was discovered at the end of 18th century and wasn't come in military use till 1950's. It was IMPOSSIBLE for any civilization to mine and mould it without modern science and equipment like computers.
If you are going to that level, you might have said ML call "Airstrikes" with his eyes, deploy tanks and fire nukes from his eyes with his moves cuz even that is feasible as compared to the situation you are mentioning and all these weapons predate use of titanium. Its the strongest metal in the world used to make Space-craft, nuclear reactor/bombs and most commonly used in fighter jets.
Even Atomic bombs were in serial production before Titanium was in commonly used, I was fighting with you for this long and you had this in mind.
Do you know what?
I have enough of it, you are right ML has freaking "Dark Saber/Light Saber" in his hand and it can cut through anything. I was the dumb and stupid for considering ancient timeline, I am sorry lets end this !
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
You do realise the color of fan under panel, you are are arguing is steal is color of bronze or copper. I am saying its paper cuz the original fans you were mentioning had sheets inside them.
First there is no historical record or surviving example to even say, Chinese signaling war fans even existed in the first place and the original Japanese war fans had metallic ribs or stripes in them, covered and joined by the paper to allow the folding and hold the entire thing together. Fan in ML hand has no metallic stripes or ribs and have a straight uniform sheet of one material....just like a freaking paper fan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan#/media/File:Gunsen_fan.JPG
If you think its a uniform single sheet of metal without paper, then tell me how it will fold back together. You think metal/steel bends like this without any mechanism!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan#/media/File:Gunsen_Asian_Art_Museum_SF.JPG
Read this article and you will understand (what I mean by absence of metallic ribs/stripes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan
http://www.china.org.cn/english/2001/Jun/14910.htm#:~:text=The%20ribs%20of%20folding%20fans,for%20example%20a%20grasshopper's%20legs.
Now you are making me think you are blind cuz there is very clear difference between the color of copper, brass, bronze and freaking steal.
https://www.taprefurbishment.co.uk/bronze-or-brass-whats-the-difference/
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
I have no time to argue harmonics with you now but sound depends upon the shape and ML folded it in the fight scenes, its not a iron metallic fan and even the color is wrong !
You can argue its a bronze/copper fan due to the color but even that won't fold that well due to thick metallic stripes and bronze won't survive one strike from iron blade edge.
Replying to Mellowrose Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double Spoiler
Im strt to piss off with all this drama "police" and "professor" ... people just wnt to enjoy drama and happily…
Name me I don't mind !
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
Bro its a paper fan cuz if sword hit those metallic fans, they would have added the sound effects and even metallic fans are going to bend.
Replying to mizu Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Why need spoiler tag for ur comment. Some pp think that they are smart and lecturing other pp. So they portray…
Yep bro cancel his "Bitch ass" and earlier he was saying, where are all those "Rights masters" who were calling ML pedophile for working with FL younger than him in "The Substitute Princess's Love (2024)".
His bitch was actually pointing out hypocrites !
Replying to yoonuyea Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
i hope this time around wxy able to get his girl (though im sure he definitely got her already). my heart still…
He got her in the end in the "Scent of time" and in first love.
Replying to bunnyfreakz Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Ai Mi is too young, she is lack of charisma to play character with deep layer of emotion. She need more years…
There are even younger lead actors than ami in some dramas, brother she has more screentime than ML and especially SML, is important part of the story and hence deserves the title of lead role.
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
Its not....ML only has one fan and its made of paper. We know it cuz he folds it over and over again with white paper showing it and you can @Peachblossom. She is chinese and can confirm they never mentioned anything about fan being metallic and I have read the novel upto chap 124.....fan was of paper.
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
again man, did your sword snatching thing happened repeatedly in the history or it was onetime thing cuz there is a Indian weapon, that decapitated 9+ people with single strike and unlike your fan. They tested it and it can do it !
The weapon capability is tested, if its used multiple times by numerous people and produce same effect and "Swords are swords", it doesn't matter their nationality and Eu swords were invented by the chinese.
Replying to bunnyfreakz Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Ai Mi is too young, she is lack of charisma to play character with deep layer of emotion. She need more years…
You are right about that but you have to consider us, non-han/chinese people may not know about these things or the proper equites of the song dynasty.
The only thing I know about "Song" is they were real misogynist and imprisoned woman after the liberal Tang, so your comments regarding her behaviour are probably right but when you factor in. That woman openly rebuked the Emperor and forced her will on him and he did nothing in return, its nothing and same goes for students.
I suspect they use to only invite the original winners or first three not the whole damnn class.....but I know and practice sword martial arts. So it really irked me !
Why use paper fan of all the things !
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
Lol ML used paper fan and you can see it clearly when he folds it in the first 5 episodes, it's not the iron fan (that's the whole problem) and the durable and flexible sticks you are talking about were also used in war as spears by fire-hardening the tip.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4892246/
Replying to Elricboss Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
"I have to disappoint all these people going "gaga" over his fan" It’s so absurd, people have no common sense…
I will take it where was wrong !
Replying to bunnyfreakz Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Ai Mi is too young, she is lack of charisma to play character with deep layer of emotion. She need more years…
You do realise chinese dramas are recorded at-least 1 year before airing and old ones even took more than that like 1-2 years.
Zhao Lusi is 25 this year and OH my Emperor was released in 2018, so 25-6 is 19 but thanks to her own admission, we know for a fact she started working while she was 17 year old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsC3cfhqa28&list=PLwIAzDfsrXYxKxqsjDsQD41es3LVJfkcv&index=12
Replying to bunnyfreakz Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Ai Mi is too young, she is lack of charisma to play character with deep layer of emotion. She need more years…
I won't complain about it, if drama was going in that direction from beginning but now they are challenging my mental sanity. It was very good drama for me so far and if you remember correctly, I also complain about the fan deflecting arrow from 200 pound draw bow.
He was fighting trained and experienced assassins, if it was low lvl criminals and thugs I can buy it but trained assassins with ranged weapons !
Replying to bunnyfreakz Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Ai Mi is too young, she is lack of charisma to play character with deep layer of emotion. She need more years…
I am just point it out....stop crying about it !
Replying to Blodeuwedd Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
Actually fans were weapons in Japan and China. I read a good article about it but not in English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_fan…
First ML fan is made of paper not iron and he is not using Tai Chi iron Fan technique here and I would not even go into details of "How it will fail miserably against TRAINED ASSASINS"
Tai Chi in general and specially the fan technique is defense mechanism of lowest degree used to deal with untrained bandits, things ML is facing are trained and experienced assassins. I personally know "Sword fighting" so if you want to drag this argument of this mythological fan supremacy going against trained soldiers, let alone assassins with ranged weapons.
We can go on for eternity and you will not win this argument !

Secondly, you think I am stupid. How are you going to yank sword out of opponent hand with fan by sticking it between the fan blades, kid swords were very sharp and it will cut through the rings and whatever contraption was used to keep the blades together including the metallic sheets themselves.
How are you going to yank sword out of opponent hand, unlike your fan swords have basket hilt and pomel grip to make sure, sword will be kept firmly in attacker hand even when penetrating armour and shields.
https://www.props.eric-hart.com/resources/parts-of-a-sword-hilt/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilt#/media/File:Sword_parts-en.svg

Round throwing daggers were used as assassination weapons and their group and usage was so famous, the group wielding them spread such extreme terror in the Eu and Middle-east and Africa.
That their name Hassasshain/Fidain/ Assassin used as word for killers in all Eu, African and Middle-Eastern languages. The word Assassins come from their name Hassassins !
Replying to Elricboss Jun 9, 2024
Title The Double
"I have to disappoint all these people going "gaga" over his fan" It’s so absurd, people have no common sense…
sry bro, I will take it back !