DramaAjumma

Thanks for the response. You did a better job of presenting my position than I did. For a few seconds there I was thinking that maybe I'd read the situation wrongly but only a few seconds. :D

From your comment I especially liked your observations about how Yanzhi can be more objective about Yu'er compared to Qi Yan because he's far more emotionally invested in Yu'er. The burden of expectations that he has for her is much higher because she largely fulfills a need that he has. But because of the "push" nature of their relationship she is unaware that she occupies such an important position in his heart.

After watching it a second time it was much clearer to me that he was in a sense setting her up for failure on some level. She was being tested and she didn't know she was because she was coming into the conversation from an entirely different perspective. She never thought this was about her and he thought this was completely about her.

Reminds me quite realistically of marital conflict.

I agree that everything he does has a reason but I'm not sure I agree that he's always clear about his intentions towards Yu'er. She's certainly not always clear about his intentions towards her. HIs mouth says one things but his body language says another.

I'm not saying he's the bad guy here. Far from it. I'm just saying that he has his weaknesses too. Whether he's right... or wrong... perhaps Yanzhi is right... depends on whether he wins or loses.

I don't think it's about trust necessarily because she didn't know his intentions. We are privy to his thoughts but she isn't. But she remembered the last time that Cheng Xi kept secrets from him, she was punished and demoted. This time it would be something much much worse. No doubt she naively believed in her ability to change Cheng Xi's mind to make things right. While she did lie about Prince An, she did ask him for time to think things through before saying anything because she wanted to "fix" things. She wasn't trying to betray him (although that's how he perceived it), she was trying to save Aunty. Her perception of the situation is totally different from his.

Anyway, it's just a thought.

I'm not saying who's right or wrong. All I'm saying is exactly what Cheng Yi said. Everyone has their reasons for doing what they do.

I think we should be careful about over-empathizing with Qi Yan. He knows exactly how the game is played. The only difference is here is that this is a woman he's in love with. And yet, he himself constantly denies that there's anything romantic between them and it's just a relationship between monarch and subject. He tells her that repeatedly as well even though his actions say otherwise. So Yu'er has had to talk herself into thinking that it's all just platonic. In fact, if he took an objective view of Yu'er's dilemma he should have been far more understanding. In fact he once asked her that very question -- if she had to choose between him and aunty, who would she choose? She said she couldn't be sure. And he said that he liked she was speaking honestly. The fact is, he's been meaning to send her away anyway because he's constantly worried about her safety because being around him puts her in jeopardy. But love makes him indecisive where she's concerned. He already knows that Yu'er cares about family and that's not a bad thing ordinarily. If Yu'er can so easily betray the people who saved her life and raised her up so well, then she wouldn't be the woman he fell for. It would mean she has no principles. The fact that she understands loyalty and has principles is why he fell for her in the first place.

The thing is he allowed himself to be manipulated by Li Zening who knows his weakness. She knows exactly which buttons to push because she herself let him down once. If he had been really less emotional, he would have waited and given Yu'er time to come to him on her own because she would have eventually after what happened at the Violet Bureau.

I think it's progressing quite well actually. We know much more than we did in the early episodes.

This issue is not about intelligence it's a question of loyalty. She was put in an untenable position of having to choose between someone who saved her life, gave her everything she has and the emperor that admittedly has been good to her too. The person to blame here is Cheng Xi for putting her in that position.

Don't forget too with Yan Zhi that she chose Qiu Ziliang over Han Yue to survive. It's clever but morally dubious... and she knew it too.

The problem with Ga-on is that he's still clinging on to the rule of law in the misguided belief that the law will solve everything ultimately in this context despite being shown repeatedly that it doesn't. I can't expect him to trust Yohan ahead of his own mentor when push came to shove.

It's tragic, devastating but brilliant.

I was right. I knew it all along. I don't usually gloat about these things but I will in this instance.
There was a commenter here who kept insisting that they knew exactly what happened during the fire and what kind of man Yohan was and watched the show with a particular set of lenses instead of watching what the show was saying about Yohan. It was always a case of a man who was sinned against more than he sinned.
This is a complex world that the writer has created. The simple-minded with good intentions end up killing or be killed.

I went and watched Episode 24 after reading all the comments here because I was given to think it was an unwatchable episode. But it wasn't actually. The crisis of conscience was real and the loneliness of the emperor was poignantly depicted. It was beautifully done.

Qiu Yanzhi hasn't found out Cheng Ruoyu's identity. I don't think anyone knows who she is at this stage.
They talked about the former emperor's edict to confer Prince Guang as his successor. Neither of them seem to know where it is.

Episode 23 was good. As I keep saying the show just goes from strength to strength. And I'm losing count now of the number of conspiracies and agendas that have been and are currently at play. I hope and pray that they can keep up with the juggling act right up to the end because there is a really good story in all of this.

I am one of those people who really like the romance not just because of the leads' chemistry. It's true that in many instances romance is unnecessary in this political type dramas but it's not the case here. In this drama the romance is absolutely necessary not only for Yu'er's character development but to provide another perspective to Qi Yan. He is a despised and hated figure by many. He owns the tag because this is the burden he must bear in order to take back power from the eunuchs and their lackeys. From her vantage point we can gain a different perspective on Qi Yan and root for him. It isn't even because he is a lonely figure that he needs optimistic trustworthy companionship that he's fallen for the first lively but impulsive female that swings his way. Yes, she's a cheerleader of sorts and it helps. But that isn't it, I don't think. Much more important is that when he's with her, he can be himself, Qi Yan: The once carefree prince who could roam the streets freely and watch puppet shows unencumbered by politics. When he is with her, all her energy and enthusiasm reminds him of who he used to be. It makes him feel alive. This is why he so desperately wants her to be free because he knows first hand what it is like to have had that kind of life and lost it. That's why he says to her when they were in prison together that hanging out with her at the western marketplace was the happiest time in his life. She represents a freedom he cannot have because of responsibility laid on his shoulders by the aftermath of the Morning Dew debacle.
It is both a blessing and burden for him to be in love with her. It gives him hope but it sees him constantly in anxiety over her safety. It humanizes him and prevents him from being lost in the mire of the power plays.

You speak a lot of sense.

Why aren't you complaining about the clown president? He's the one that overacts.
Kim Min-jung's character is fine. She's just a villain.

The editing of Episodes 21 and 22 was worse than usual but I'm still enjoying the show very much. The leads are so lovely to watch. The push and pull makes more sense than most. Plus I like the dealing and double dealing in the background. It's one of the better things I've seen since Imperial Coroner.

In some ways I find her arc the most interesting because her growth is the most palpable. Everyone else has been already been at the scheming and conspiring. But she's the novice who is finding her feet and learning the game as she goes along. To her credit she learns fast. Her loyalty to Qi Yan is also grounded on her own logical assessment of the situation not some kind of blind devotion. The fact that she has no expectations of being romantically involved in him is really very admirable.
I may be in the minority on this but I like her more than I like Yanzhi.

Overall is not a bad watch. The cases alright and had some degree of complexity to them. The procedural side of things was okay. The romance was supposed to "save" Qin Min from going over to the dark side, wasn't that well-written even if the chemistry of the leads was decent enough. It felt completely unnecessary. I was a lot more interested in his relationship with his father to be honest.
Because of the budgetary factors most probably, it's the weakest of the four Dr Qin dramas that I've seen so far. I really like Zhang Yujian though.

Episode 9 was pure joy. The antics of all the doctors at the table tennis tournament were really to die for. Loved how they featured the emergency staff and the neonatal nurses. Relieved that Jun-wan knows the truth. Thankful for more confirmation that the bear couple are a goer. Enjoyed the duet between Ik-sun and Ik-jun.
There wasn't a single thing that I didn't like.

I know right. I was killing myself laughing.