Tang Fan's sister is sooooooooo stupid. Another character who doesn't speak up when she should and gives up when…
Honestly... as much as I enjoy this drama for the male leads, I really don't think I'm in the target demographic. For someone who has been watching and reading crime fiction most of their life, the solution to the cases are really no-brainers.
One of the great things about Tang Fan, despite his obvious flaws, is how he draws people to himself and brings them together. Look at what he does for Sui Zhou and the Oirats. He cares deeply about the people around him and is fiercely loyal to them despite the whining. It's one of his true strengths apart from his deductive skills. Just watching him and those who have become part of his circle eating together is a delight. It may seem like he is generous to a fault but it seems to reap dividends for him when push comes to shove.
Am i the only one who hates tang fan? I'm up to EP 12 and I skip almost all his scenes now. I hate his pouting…
I thought the same way at first but I've now changed my mind about Tang Fan. Yes, he seems childishly idealistic but the show needs his moral compass. He does get taken advantage of a bit because of his lack of political savvy but his voice is a necessary one because he stands up for the rule of law. I really appreciate that he goes against the "politics as usual" grain even if he gets into trouble for it. He actually has his own kind of courage... that of his convictions. He is absolutely needed in this show. The other guys have their own kind of intelligence but they don't have his knack for putting all the pieces of the puzzle together in a way that explains all the discrepancies.
the only thing that bothers me is the comments on youtube bashing the FL sometimes for no reason but because she…
Can I just say from the perspective of some of us... that not all criticisms of FL has anything to do with romance... whatsoever... She is annoying regardless of whether she's going to end up with LY. She's just badly written. She is used to generate conflict when it doesn't exist.
The strength of this drama lies in the way the trio male leads are used in this drama and how their ever-evolving dynamic plays out. That part of the show is particularly well-written. Kudos to the actors as well. At this early stage the cases are fairly straightforward, nothing that particularly boggles the mind. So far it's predominantly a police procedural dealing with matters related to the royal Ming court. Not all of the humour works for me but that's because I probably don't fit into the target demographic.
I'm not sure how I feel about romance at this stage. I don't need it but I'm not entirely against it. Aha was a popular Norwegian band from the 1980s. That Aha I liked. This Aha.... I have mixed feelings about. Is there some kind of recent trend in C dramas that female add-ons need to be extremely unlikeable to begin with just so there's some kind of obligatory sniping to signal the start to the romance?
It seems to me too that the petulant Noble Consort isn't especially bright. She shows her insecurity rather too easily. Luckily for her though she has smart people to do her thinking for her. My feeling is that one of these days that Wang Zhi will have to choose between her and the emperor. It won't be pretty.
For some reason this drama reminds me of the British series Wallander that starred Kenneth Branagh. Or UK dramas in general that are set in remote areas. I chalk it up to the bleak, existential quality that undergirds it. I was expecting something fast-paced, thriller-like when I looked at the trailer. Instead it's a much more brooding, contemplative drama. That's not a criticism at all actually but clearly it's one for the adults. It's quite a different beast from the current crop of detective/police procedural shows airing.
Nice trio of male leads with very different personalities working together. Kind of. The first thing that struck me about the cast is how young the leads are. I've only seen the first four episodes but it's very promising.
Wow... I had to do a double take on Alyssa Chia. I really almost didn't recognize her.
I complete agree with you. Frankly the FL is not needed at all. An immature journalist part of an investigation…
You're probably assuming a bit too much here. I have and had no romantic expectations whatsoever. I only criticised the writing of the character as being extreme. I don't care who ends up with whom. As far as I'm concerned this is a detective drama first and foremost. What matters to me is good storytelling and well-constructed cases. I don't enjoy the bickering... I don't think it's funny and it doesn't improve the storytelling or add to our appreciation of the characters. All it does is make YL more unlikeable in my eyes because she's the one initiating most of it. This doesn't have anything to do with her intelligence or her role as a tabloid reporter. It feels like all she does is pick on LY for sport and she moved into the apartment just to make his life hell. The only redeeming aspect to her character seems to be her ability to recall important information and provide important tips. I've watched other dramas with other bickering duos/trios and they worked really well. Here... not so much.
It's fine that we all don't see things the same way. That's what tends to happen in a forum like this. :D
I complete agree with you. Frankly the FL is not needed at all. An immature journalist part of an investigation…
I find myself fast forwarding through the bickering bits. Her character is just too extreme for my liking. I don't mind her giving the MLs a useful tip or two. But she desperately wants to prove to her dad that she's an adult and yet she seems to take perverse pleasure in giving Lu Yao a hard time. It's highly unnecessary, not to mention childish. She doesn't have to like him or approve of him but she doesn't have to make his life hell because she has daddy issues. She comes across as nothing more than a spoilt brat looking for a fight. And what's the point of nagging him? He has his own way of conducting the cases and always comes through in the end. I hold my nose watching her scenes only because the rest of the show is good.
Here's another one this C drama season that's drawn very loosely from the Sherlock Holmes template. :D As far as the investigative side of things are concerned, it's a pretty solid drama. and loads of fun. Love the backdrop. Male leads have a good dynamic and work well together. Hu Yi Tian is pleasantly surprising me with this against type outing. However, the female lead... really doesn't do a whole lot for me. The writing for her character feels all over the place. Plus she's so bratty. Maybe it's my age showing but the bickering is rather over-the top.
Decent stuff but so far it hasn't reached the heights of Detective L.
Aw when his heart aches, mine too. It must very painful for him to see that she likes the other guy, that she…
It's Toby's performance, isn't it? He's so good in Episode 17 that you can't help but be drawn into what the character's feeling and thinking. I find that to be consistently true all throughout the drama.
What! When did they get married? I only saw them wearing red clothes, but no ceremony, bowing 1, 2, 3 times...…
It was all done very hastily to protect himself from having to marry Ran Mei Yan and also to protect Ran Yan from the killer inside the family home. I believe SF's family also pulled out of the marriage arrangement at the time so it gave Xiao Song room to move.
He is absolutely needed in this show. The other guys have their own kind of intelligence but they don't have his knack for putting all the pieces of the puzzle together in a way that explains all the discrepancies.
It's not just because he's an assassin. And he is using her too.
I'm not sure how I feel about romance at this stage. I don't need it but I'm not entirely against it. Aha was a popular Norwegian band from the 1980s. That Aha I liked. This Aha.... I have mixed feelings about. Is there some kind of recent trend in C dramas that female add-ons need to be extremely unlikeable to begin with just so there's some kind of obligatory sniping to signal the start to the romance?
It seems to me too that the petulant Noble Consort isn't especially bright. She shows her insecurity rather too easily. Luckily for her though she has smart people to do her thinking for her. My feeling is that one of these days that Wang Zhi will have to choose between her and the emperor. It won't be pretty.
It's quite a different beast from the current crop of detective/police procedural shows airing.
Wow... I had to do a double take on Alyssa Chia. I really almost didn't recognize her.
It's fine that we all don't see things the same way. That's what tends to happen in a forum like this. :D
I hold my nose watching her scenes only because the rest of the show is good.
Decent stuff but so far it hasn't reached the heights of Detective L.
I find that to be consistently true all throughout the drama.