DramaBunny009

I think I lose a bit of my sanity everytime I visit MDL when I’m watching a drama especially ongoing ones - so much hate spewing. Totally fine with having an opinion not fine with the outright hate. You can hate a negative character because that’s actually a compliment to the actor but if you are outright hating on a protagonist, I think think it’s time for them to move on from the drama. I don’t see how someone can continue watching if they are so miserable watching it ! Miss the time when I didn’t know about MDL but I can’t stop checking now either 😂

Yea totally agree , the kisses were really good but the angles really let them down - not sure what the deal is here

So i rewatched the ep on a big screen (initially I watched it on my phone ) and people who said the last scene was random or awkward, how many other kdrama sex scenes are there that are vastly better than this? Only a handful that maybe a little better - I can think of one recently which was My Name. Definitely didn’t feel contrived to me and the chemistry was there - just because they didn’t seem super horny doesn’t mean there is no chemistry 😂. I loved the way how Hari somewhat initiated this again by turning around and looking at him. It started slow and then it evolved. My only 2 gripes were the angles and also what Hari was wearing. So after analysing it in the big screen, if those angles weren’t there, this scene would have been way too raunchy for SBS, he was almost eating her up with those kisses. I really wish we got a ‘Netflix’ version 🤭😂. Hari’s outfits have been blah for me lately, especially for this scene what she was wearing almost got in the way visually - she just looked way too clothed with her sweater over her shirt, the longer skirt, the boots. I’ve seen my fare share of awkward lovemaking in dramas - this wasn’t it but would have been visually better if the above issues weren’t there.

It’s not them because you can see from the BTS of their first kiss that they did it really well. It’s the director who used those angles and did not give us a prolonged shot of the kisses. It’s either zoomed out, their heads covering it or if we do see their lips it’s like 2 seconds. I don’t get why they would do that with the main couple 🤷🏽‍♀️

It will be nice to have a wedding but I don’t care as long as satisfactory ending.

Exactly my point, not hating on the 2nd couple but the first time they had sex, she was too drunk to even remember but everyone was like whoaaa that was so hot - but main couple have sex after they have been dating for a bit, emotions running high considering all the stuff they’ve been through, in a perfect setting that usually leads to such things but hey that somehow appeared to be out of the blue? What more build up do we need? Do they need to hint at it from a few episodes prior for it to be a proper build up like they did in What’s wrong with secretary Kim?

They really went for it - I really want to see the BTS

Omg 🤭😂

How is the spicy scene random though? I just don’t get people, they are in the same room together alone, they love each other they are attracted to each other, already emotions are a bit high from previous events so why wouldn’t they do what they did? You can ever make people happy! And no way do I think their scene was inferior to the second couple’s - they are totally different and good in their own ways in fact it’s hotter in my opinion.

People who are saying the end scene was random and contrived clearly haven’t been in a hotel suite alone with their lover 😂 especially when emotions are running high, there is longing I just don’t see how it’s not natural for them to start kissing and eventually leading to where it did. I also wouldnt use ‘innocent’ to describe Hari, maybe not experienced but definitely not innocent. She is a grown adult in her mid to late 20s in a modern era where people even if they have not experienced it themselves have enough exposure to it. It would be weird if she shied away in that moment. And they took it slow from the beginning and it finally led up to the scene from ep 11 which is enough to show that they were less experienced than the second lead couple who were more confident to sleep together right from the start.

Lol first of all I wouldn’t call Hari innocent maybe not experienced but not innocent - someone innocent wouldn’t know how to portray a Geum hi so convincingly. She is a grown adult so when she is in a room with the man she loves, emotions are already running high, don’t see why it is so out of the blues for them to do what they did.

Can’t make people happy, when there was hardly any skinship between the main couple people complained , now there is a steamy scene people complains 🤷🏽‍♀️

I agree with you. They had their say, they seemed to have parted in a mutual note meaning they understood eachother so it’s bizarre that they didn’t even keep in touch. Only came into contact through a tv interview and maybe stayed informed about each other from others and tv news. As you mentioned, no way a relationship like theirs could be so fickle. Yes they could have easily visited each other, if jiwoong can visit yurim with his savings from a part time job, no way Hee do couldn’t visit YiJin especially when she goes for tournaments overseas anyway. No ones ever that busy to not be able to spare a couple of days. She was already a well established athlete, she could have easily gone to visit. I would even be okay if they showed that they stayed great friends because their support and love for each other transcends romance and if they couldn’t make a romantic relationship work, they would still remain best of friends who root for each other. Also in my opinion Hee Do getting married when she did felt like a plot device
by the writers just to get their way, because from the tv interview it was clear she still had a sense of longing and emotional connection to YiJin so why get married like that when you have unresolved feelings where non of your friends had married yet - she even seemed super miserable in the present. I always felt the present HeeDo had an underlying sadness to her and just doesn’t make sense that after showing us the whole story of their friendship, there was no sign of yijin or the other friends not even Yurim in the present. What was the point of the present timeline. Im just annoyed the way the last couple of episodes were handled.

I agree! Reality doesn’t equal sadness. I thought the breakup was rushed but even with the breakup, they did end their romantic relationship mutually so why not keep in touch and stay friends. They had an incredible friendship from the beginning one that transcends romance so it would actually make sense if they stayed as great friends who support each other even if they could not remain as lovers. There are heaps of people who break up or get divorced and still remain great friends. In one scene in the present Hee Do’s mom mentions seeing YiJin so it’s weird that it’s implied HeeDo doesn’t have any connection with YiJin in the present. The kind of inspiring relationship that was portrayed from the beginning seemed to totally vanish. What was the point of the present timeline anyway. HeeDo seemed almost melancholy all throughout not at all like herself in the past, no mention of being in touch with any of her friends just referencing her relationship with her friends and YiJin as a distant memory. The ending left so much to be desired.

I can appreciate your perspective. Even with all that though I still cannot accept the way they broke up. Yes he couldn’t change in a day and yes Hee do was emotionally exhausted but they were finally talking, finally addressing their feelings. These two made a profound impact in each other’s lives so it’s hard for me understand that after their breakup, they totally lose touch (Atleast that’s what appears to be implied) and they never think of rekindling even if it’s just their friendship, rather only support each other from afar somehow - that’s more unrealistic for me. Maybe I’m missing something and their relationship was flawed from the beginning. I did not care about all the theories really, it was quite evident that they were going for them not being together in the present or the daughter not being yijin’s daughter but I still didn’t like the way they did the breakup. It seemed rushed to me. And the fact that they just never reconnected also made their relationship look like another run of the mill relationship - again their relationship seemed much more profound than just a romantic one. That’s why I actually would have preferred them to have stayed platonic instead of what we got. The present Hee Do just was a let down the whole present situation seemed pointless. Why was the daughter reading the diary - the only purpose appears to be is to tell the story but I wished there was more of an impact to the present.

This is gonna be a long post but I’m so salty about the final episode and the ending. And no they didn’t have to have a happy ending if it didn’t make sense but in this case it totally could. The writers trying to portray something ‘real’ and somehow ‘emotionally intellectual’ with this type of ending but in fact the break up just seemed frivolous. It almost feels like the writers decided there will be a breakup so they went and put together some random stuff to lead to the breakup. I’m gonna list why I think the breakup was unnecessary.

1. BYJ’s struggle in NewYork - He is someone who had gone through his fare share of struggles from a young age. He grew up in an affluent environment and suddenly becomes dirt poor that too with his family torn apart and him left to fend for himself having dropped out of college. He was ridiculed and harassed by people, had to struggle to get work. So by no means has he lead a ‘sheltered’ life so whilst it’s totally understandable what he was going through in New York being exposed to so much grief and chaos, the way he handled it was uncharacteristic.
2. Him not communicating with Hee Doo again was uncharacteristic of their relationship. When he moved away to the village before they were dating, they hardly had proper means of communicating but he still a managed to tell Hee Do to wait for him. I think all Hee Do needed was him being open to her saying look I’m really struggling, I don’t want to pull you down, just give me some time. Also he goes an applied for the New York job without telling Hee Do just so uncharacteristic of their relationship - yes people change due to circumstances we are exposed to but back to my first point, he had already gone though a bunch of crap in his life, this might be different in many ways but ‘realistically’ I don’t think it was enough for him to do a 360.
3. HD and BYJ relationship started from a place of support, respect and almost an unconditional love (I say almost because nothing is 100% selfless but they came close in my opinion) even before it blossomed into something romantic. So it amazes me that it ends so easily. Even if all of that shit happened between them when BYJ was in NY and Hee Do feeling like he was the same as her mom, after they actually had that conversation when they both said what they had to and how they felt, why couldn’t they actually make an effort to make their relationship work. The whole thing about if you love someone you let them go etc is all philosophical crap. In real life you actually try harder. I don’t think their relationship would have soured if they stayed together because they had actually communicated their grievances - they actually would have started from a good place. BYJ totally turned out fine even becoming a successful anchor so clearly what was happening in NY didn’t pull him down for long.
4. Again the writers being all philosophical with what adult Hee Do said in the end. Ugh she clearly regrets her decision, clearly still loved BYJ even though she locked it up somewhere at the back of her mind - how is it fair to her present situation then, her husband, her family? I honestly disliked the present Hee Do’s character from the beginning because she just appeared to be the stark opposite of the Hee Do of the past.

All in all I think the writers did the characters dirty by giving us a forced and rushed breakup for the sake of having an unconventional ending. I would have been totally fine if their love remained platonic and they never dated or the breakup was actually justified but this I can’t be happy with. This drama was perfect up until the last two episodes!

Ep 15 was so heartbreaking but also soo real, what those two are going through is unfortunately what reality is sometimes. They have immense love for each other but they are growing apart due to the circumstances. It’s not the LDR, it’s just how people’s circumstances changes them which cause them to grow apart. All though I really want them to end up together, I don’t think they will. Even the present Hee Do seem to have this underlying sadness to her which makes me think they are not together.

Ep 15 was so heartbreaking but also soo real, what those two are going through is unfortunately what reality is sometimes. They have immense love for each other but they are growing apart due to the circumstances. It’s not the LDR, it’s just how people’s circumstances changes them which cause them to grow apart. All though I really want them to end up together, I don’t think they will. Even the present Hee Do seem to have this underlying sadness to her which makes me think they are not together.

I’m still hoping the synopsis is only giving us part of the picture - I mean it make sense for them to not mention wedding in the synopsis. Realistically a wedding scene probably will only take 10 to 15 min of an episode so I’m really hoping there is one. After having everything so perfect I’d be bummed if they give us a half-hearted ending. Surely they must know the viewers would love to have a wedding scene just like the webtoon but then again it won’t be the first time directors decided to do something stupid at the end of a drama.

Oh yes AHS is just perfect in this role I don’t think anyone can really top that!