Dramalannnnd

Rape isn't toxic?

Honestly, if they're going to make adaptations that trivialize and romanticize rape, I'd rather watch a censored Chinese adaptation. At least there's quality in the adaptation and no disturbing scenes. It's simply disgusting that this drama gets a high rating of 8 with a romanticized rape! Wake up!

The rest is cheap... the costumes, the fights, the makeup...

They should have let China do it. I'd prefer a hinted romance over a nauseating one.

It's a bit sad, but I was thinking that once the series is over, the only way to see if Up and Poom have really become friends will be to watch Up's YouTube channel. If Poom doesn't appear at all anymore (of course he will appear less), but if he doesn't appear at all, then it was just fan service and they are not friends at all.

By the way, while watching the vlogs, I noticed how talkative Poom is. 😂

It's a bit sad, but I was thinking that once the series is over, the only way to see if Up and Poom have really become friends will be to watch Up's YouTube channel. If Poom doesn't appear at all anymore (of course he will appear less), but if he doesn't appear at all, then it was just fan service and they are not friends at all.

By the way, while watching the vlogs, I noticed how talkative Poom is. 😂

If Joe doesn't come back, they won't make us believe that Ming will move on with his life. Ming will commit suicide. And Tong will just continue his joyful life with his family and child without ever paying for anything. The justice in this drama is really poor: Ming has to pay all the time for years, but Tong doesn't have to. Clearly, the worse of the two is not Ming but Tong.

Honestly, the wait is long... They really should have released the episodes in pairs or two per week... because if the ending isn't happy, we will have just wasted weeks for nothing... Ming's redemption arc would be pointless without a happy ending. Joe going back to Ming would also be pointless...

Apparently, karma doesn't exist in the series considering Tong's redemption arc. There is no karma; he ends up with a wife, a child, and no debt. Meanwhile, Ming has to keep paying, over and over again, which is repetitive.

Finally, someone who makes the effort to understand each character. Ming may have many flaws, but murder is not one of them.

Finally, someone who makes the effort to understand each character. Ming may have many flaws, but murder is not one of them.

🫣😂

By the way, those who justify their hatred by saying Ming killed Joe, did you watch the same drama as everyone else? Ming never killed anyone. Joe died because Joe doesn't think much and because the foreign production didn't adhere to safety standards. Ming has been a jerk, but never a murderer. Be careful with your choice of words...

Happy ending
Happy ending
Please please please

I was thinking that his teeth are way too white and too perfect 😂

Yes ;)

It's unthinkable that Ming would just continue his life. And Ming doesn't deserve to die. Sure, he's done bad things (I'm not talking about the books, that's totally different), but he's learned, he's grown, he's evolved.

Anyway, to conclude: If the ending isn't happy after all the talk about redemption since Episode 4, I won't understand it. If even Tong deserves redemption in the minds of the writers, it would be illogical for Ming not to get it.

It makes me wonder: Isn't Joe a bit simple-minded? (affectionately simple-minded.) I mean he seems to not think much.

Let's continue. They are in love, they have a relationship that suits them. This does not align at all with the end of Episode 11. Joe has already moved on. Joe is happy with Ming. The entirety of Episodes 10 and 11 shows us that aside from the obstacle of family, they are happy. So why does the master still talk about replacement? Joe is not replacing anyone except with "the mother." There is no logic in him thinking about Ming and their past at this moment. Ming has shown no interest in Tong. So is he talking about being his own replacement? That's ridiculous. Joe is not his own replacement, Joe is Joe. A body is just a body. A soul is a soul, and Ming is in love with Joe's soul. It was clear to everyone except Joe, apparently?

We add the fact that Joe's concern regarding Ming has always been solely about Tong. The rest, Joe didn't care much about. So no, it's not healthy. Joe doesn't have a healthy relationship with love. Neither does Ming. They have a catastrophic relationship with love. But they love each other. They love each other in a way that doesn't please everyone but suits them. Ming has been very good with Joe since he truly learned it was him, and Joe behaves as he always has. It's more this point, in my opinion, that needs to be put into perspective: Joe is passive. How could he have taken Tong's place? I understand it's "because" of the child. But when is a child orphaned without their father? Moreover, does Joe really think it's better to have a father like Tong rather than just a mother?

I have a lot of difficulty understanding people who dare say that Ming hasn't evolved. Sure, as a writer, I would have made sure his redemption arc began when he met the "new Joe," and I might have adjusted a scene or two to show his growth differently. However, you can't deny that learning of Joe's death was a wake-up call for Ming, and whether you like it or not, this is not uncommon. We often only realize a person's value once we've lost them. That's exactly what happened, and Ming changed drastically because he didn't want to lose Joe again. So yes, it's abrupt, but my explanation (I have skills in the psychological field) should enlighten you more. Now, if Joe has gotten back together with Ming, it means he forgives, he moves on. When you get back with someone, you don't keep throwing their past in their face every two minutes.