I read comments about her motivations, like perhaps she did that to protect her daughter and herself from her…
Something came through my mind : What if Seo Jin was "buy" to hide the truth. That is quite strange how he is " the youngest director in Korea "and the drama insists a lot on this title... I think YuJung's construction gave this job in exchange for his silence. Or they manipulated him in order for him to be indebted to the compagnie and unconsciously this is why his trauma gets worst because he feels guilty to stay quiet about it.
I read comments about her motivations, like perhaps she did that to protect her daughter and herself from her…
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" her saying that her daughter will be happy if she's happy, it kind of making all the comments about her motivation about protecting herself and the child invalid to me" Exactly !
About the fact everyone around Seo Jin are toxic is really the thing that get me the most curious, perhaps they just wanted to contrast main characters like most of the time (Seo Jin = rich but alone. Ae Ri = Poor but have a family and true friends) but I think there is something more... That is why I am afraid that they add a tragic information in the middle of all of that, perhaps something in his past that we are not aware yet. Perhaps he did someting horrible who knows ? But I really hope they won't take this path, I really like his character. What make me anxious too is the fact we are often seeing him taking pills and I know perhaps it is only to show that he has a trauma but that also give more chance to the twist "it was all in his head " at the end (even if the chance is still slim because we also see from Ae Ri point of view but I have still doubts).
" But what is that connection with those crazy trio tried to kill Ae Ri and her mom? And why they tried so hard to make Seo Jin a guilty man? " In my opinion :
either Do Gyun who is being played by the wife is also working to cover up the compagnie so perhaps he tries to hit two birds with one stone.
either the driver (who is a hitman) who is working for Do Gyun is also workind for someone else like perhaps the old man who manages the construction compagnie to cover up and everything is entangled.
either there is a mastermind behind the mastermind so that would give : someone at the top of the compagnie ( that we will see giving orders later ) > wife manipulating Do Gyun > Do Gyun > Hitman.
In the first two theories it would just be a coincidence or a fate entangled. However in the last one it would means the compagnie wants to get ride of Seo Jin too. What would be strange is : why after so much years he worked for them ? The thing they have in common between Seo Jin and Ae Ri's family is the fact they are somehow witnesses or acquaintances of witnesses of the collapsing building.
I bet my two cents that Ae Ri's mom has proofs that could prove the building had weak materials (perhaps her husband gave her/told her something before the day he died or perhaps she investigated and found something). That is why she said "Don't you dare touch my daughter, she does not know anything ! ". And why Jin Ho came to see her because he wanted to prove the weak materials. However it is still a mystery why after those years they suddently want to erase her when she did not do anything with the informations/proofs she has ? Or perhaps because she thought she was going to die she tried something that we do not know yet and that what trigger all of the " we must hide the truth".
I agree it is frustrating but in the good way because we want to know what will happen next ! + so far so good I am quite impressed
Can't believe his own wife did that to him. And to hear her saying to her toy Dae Gyun about her daughter must…
I read comments about her motivations, like perhaps she did that to protect her daughter and herself from her father but I don't think this is the only reason. At least, when she did played the blame game and then "killed herself". I am pretty sure it was in order to push Seo Jin to kill himself...The wife is 100% a psycho. By the way, I am glad her character is like that, it is more interesting because if not they would make Seo Jin forgive her at the end and she would not pay for what she did...
"My daughter will be happy if I am happy " is really creepy to say and shows her manipulative side. That reminds me something I read about some kind of toxic people who make you believe there are the only one reliable and cut you from other relationship by saying "you should only rely/trust me.".
" .what about her helping by telling him something is not right about his wife? " I was afraid he would also keep for himself the fact her mom died in his timeline...The power they have is to share informations through time so this is a bit of a shame if they don't. It is also time for Ae Ri to reveal to her friend about the timelines; he already helps her a lot so again that is a shame if he has not all the informations. That was really frustrating when two times (or 3 ? ) she had the opportunities to tell him but did not.
I think the topic about her dad will bring chaos between Ae Ri and Seoj Jin. Kdramas logic would be that Seo Jin caused her dad to die somehow : how we saw there was someone else trapped with Seo Jin and later on we learn that Seo Jin misteriously survived 31 days.Lmao in a no-kdramas the answer would be simple : he ate Ae Ri's father to survive but I don't think they will go on this dark path haha But I imagine something like perhaps he let Ae Ri's dad died in order to survive or Ae Ri's dad saved him before dying.
I also find it weird how into Hyun Chae & Do Gyun storyline I am. Which is unlike me since I LOATHE cheating and…
For Ae Ri, in the firsts two episodes I was not into her story because same as you I was more concerned about Seo Jin's story and him saving his family ( I did not hate her character but I did not like her either) but after that it was better in my opinion. Love this "ping pong game " where they save each other through sharing informations.
I think it is because the cheating wife and Do Gyun are charismatic, again it depends on tastes but I am glad they made the wife a psycho manipulating everyone around her. This is more interesting + I wonder what her real identity because she said she looks forward to the day where she will get rid of her name ( but perhaps it was about her family's name she had from Seo Jin she was talking about ?).
"So why on earth am I so intrigued by their motivations and each scene they're in gets me excited? So confusing..." I hope they HAVE a good motivations though...Not sure with dramas. Guess it will be linked to the building who collapsed in the past.
I think it is because only AeRie and Seo Jin are "aware" of the time altering for now. So when Ae Ri changes something…
Oh, do you means he did it behind his back ? I think you are right because what changed in the past what the fact he heard the same song playing in the background when he called his wife and then Do Gyun so I think that broke his trust, he started to doubt him.
So far Ae Rin did not tell him about his wife cheating on him so I think his past self will discover ed it and he will have the flashbacks, the poor guy :/
wow episode 6 was awesome the disappearance of the people like thanos snap at the end was just wow lol really…
That is one of the big reason why I love this drama : we are seeing the time altering DIRECTLY from Seo Jin's point of view and I really love that. For once a drama where the time altering is really useful and the situations are evolving and that will not stay on a situation for too long !
yes it look like his feeling changed to her too. this bitch surprise me every ep. i think do gyun don't do that…
I don't trust fully the cop either ( I forget his name ) , I think a lot can be corrupted...Wonder when the old man will have more screentime because like you said of course he must be implicated !
I think the building matters will surely come at the last problem to resolve. I still think Seo Jin was trapped with Ae Rin's father and his spirit somehow ended up in Seo Jin's phone and resolving the truth behind the real reason why the building collapsed will end the supernatural phenomenon...
The idea like what all is just in Seo Jin's head is I hope, not a possibility. The fact we are often seeing him taking his pills kind of stress me lmao I saw a lot of stories where the explanation was just "it is all a dream ! "I hope it is not the case here...
I was actually really surprised she was That Much of psycho from such a young age (￣▽￣*)ゞ
What made me think that way before seeing her childhood is how she faked her tears/ emotional moments for the loss of her child that she knew was safe, thinking about it; it is really creepy. And it was in order to push Seo Jin to kill himself...If the guy did not have the supernatural smartphone he would be already dead.
+ The flashback in the past where she started to use Do Gyun. I dunno something was off with her way of talking and doing things, perhaps it is because I saw a lot of manipulative and psycho characters so I easily find them out haha...+I have a feeling Do Gyun has a fake idea of Seo Jin because of her.
What is sad, because humans are not born evil , is that she was surely abused by her father when she was young and that is how she turned like that...
I read the official released is on the 16th November so that is why we only had one episode last week but starting this week it will be 2 episodes like usual (today the first one getting the subs and tomorrow the second one being aired)
Not a suprise that the wife is a psycho and is manipulating Do Gyun... Hope he will see her true face really soon (especially in the preview she seems to smile at a child's body and he noticed ? ). I am sure she told him a lot of crap about her husband because jealousy alone is not enough as a reason to do all those horrible things to Seo Jin.
Wasn’t until I finished the first five ep. I realized how sinister the wife and his “friend” really are…
I also feel like that, hope they won't add a reason at the last minute like what he did something awful that we are not aware...I prefer the explanation like what the wife is just really manipulative and that she was doing it to make him kill himself in order to take his money or whatevers (perhaps she had planned to reappear after his death and to made an excuse about how she did not die and how her daughter was finally released or whatevers ? That seems crazy but it is a Kdramas so I can totally picture that).
Or I wonder if she is not trying to "test" her husband to see if he cares about her and his daughter but in a crazy way. Anyway I would have believed her innocence if they have found a body + When we saw the flashback between her and the secretary this is at that moment I know she was a manipulative bitch, like something is not right in her mind, dunno how to explain it but I feel like Do Gyun is just a puppet for her). Perhaps I am old school, but it really disturbed me when she slept at Do Gyun's place, use his shower WITHOUT his permission and ordered him around. I don't care if she is pretty, if I was in the guy's shoes I would kicked her out...I don't believe one moment it was his idea about the false kidnapping and the false suicide...
" her saying that her daughter will be happy if she's happy, it kind of making all the comments about her motivation about protecting herself and the child invalid to me" Exactly !
About the fact everyone around Seo Jin are toxic is really the thing that get me the most curious, perhaps they just wanted to contrast main characters like most of the time (Seo Jin = rich but alone. Ae Ri = Poor but have a family and true friends) but I think there is something more... That is why I am afraid that they add a tragic information in the middle of all of that, perhaps something in his past that we are not aware yet. Perhaps he did someting horrible who knows ? But I really hope they won't take this path, I really like his character. What make me anxious too is the fact we are often seeing him taking pills and I know perhaps it is only to show that he has a trauma but that also give more chance to the twist "it was all in his head " at the end (even if the chance is still slim because we also see from Ae Ri point of view but I have still doubts).
" But what is that connection with those crazy trio tried to kill Ae Ri and her mom? And why they tried so hard to make Seo Jin a guilty man? " In my opinion :
either Do Gyun who is being played by the wife is also working to cover up the compagnie so perhaps he tries to hit two birds with one stone.
either the driver (who is a hitman) who is working for Do Gyun is also workind for someone else like perhaps the old man who manages the construction compagnie to cover up and everything is entangled.
either there is a mastermind behind the mastermind so that would give : someone at the top of the compagnie ( that we will see giving orders later ) > wife manipulating Do Gyun > Do Gyun > Hitman.
In the first two theories it would just be a coincidence or a fate entangled. However in the last one it would means the compagnie wants to get ride of Seo Jin too. What would be strange is : why after so much years he worked for them ? The thing they have in common between Seo Jin and Ae Ri's family is the fact they are somehow witnesses or acquaintances of witnesses of the collapsing building.
I bet my two cents that Ae Ri's mom has proofs that could prove the building had weak materials (perhaps her husband gave her/told her something before the day he died or perhaps she investigated and found something). That is why she said "Don't you dare touch my daughter, she does not know anything ! ". And why Jin Ho came to see her because he wanted to prove the weak materials. However it is still a mystery why after those years they suddently want to erase her when she did not do anything with the informations/proofs she has ? Or perhaps because she thought she was going to die she tried something that we do not know yet and that what trigger all of the " we must hide the truth".
I agree it is frustrating but in the good way because we want to know what will happen next ! + so far so good I am quite impressed
"My daughter will be happy if I am happy " is really creepy to say and shows her manipulative side. That reminds me something I read about some kind of toxic people who make you believe there are the only one reliable and cut you from other relationship by saying "you should only rely/trust me.".
" .what about her helping by telling him something is not right about his wife? " I was afraid he would also keep for himself the fact her mom died in his timeline...The power they have is to share informations through time so this is a bit of a shame if they don't. It is also time for Ae Ri to reveal to her friend about the timelines; he already helps her a lot so again that is a shame if he has not all the informations. That was really frustrating when two times (or 3 ? ) she had the opportunities to tell him but did not.
I think the topic about her dad will bring chaos between Ae Ri and Seoj Jin. Kdramas logic would be that Seo Jin caused her dad to die somehow : how we saw there was someone else trapped with Seo Jin and later on we learn that Seo Jin misteriously survived 31 days.Lmao in a no-kdramas the answer would be simple : he ate Ae Ri's father to survive but I don't think they will go on this dark path haha But I imagine something like perhaps he let Ae Ri's dad died in order to survive or Ae Ri's dad saved him before dying.
I think it is because the cheating wife and Do Gyun are charismatic, again it depends on tastes but I am glad they made the wife a psycho manipulating everyone around her. This is more interesting + I wonder what her real identity because she said she looks forward to the day where she will get rid of her name ( but perhaps it was about her family's name she had from Seo Jin she was talking about ?).
"So why on earth am I so intrigued by their motivations and each scene they're in gets me excited? So confusing..."
I hope they HAVE a good motivations though...Not sure with dramas. Guess it will be linked to the building who collapsed in the past.
So far Ae Rin did not tell him about his wife cheating on him so I think his past self will discover ed it and he will have the flashbacks, the poor guy :/
I think the building matters will surely come at the last problem to resolve. I still think Seo Jin was trapped with Ae Rin's father and his spirit somehow ended up in Seo Jin's phone and resolving the truth behind the real reason why the building collapsed will end the supernatural phenomenon...
The idea like what all is just in Seo Jin's head is I hope, not a possibility. The fact we are often seeing him taking his pills kind of stress me lmao I saw a lot of stories where the explanation was just "it is all a dream ! "I hope it is not the case here...
+ The flashback in the past where she started to use Do Gyun. I dunno something was off with her way of talking and doing things, perhaps it is because I saw a lot of manipulative and psycho characters so I easily find them out haha...+I have a feeling Do Gyun has a fake idea of Seo Jin because of her.
What is sad, because humans are not born evil , is that she was surely abused by her father when she was young and that is how she turned like that...
Not sure what to believe...We will see !
I really want to see the next episode...!
Or I wonder if she is not trying to "test" her husband to see if he cares about her and his daughter but in a crazy way. Anyway I would have believed her innocence if they have found a body + When we saw the flashback between her and the secretary this is at that moment I know she was a manipulative bitch, like something is not right in her mind, dunno how to explain it but I feel like Do Gyun is just a puppet for her).
Perhaps I am old school, but it really disturbed me when she slept at Do Gyun's place, use his shower WITHOUT his permission and ordered him around. I don't care if she is pretty, if I was in the guy's shoes I would kicked her out...I don't believe one moment it was his idea about the false kidnapping and the false suicide...