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Wow, I've never connected the dots. Was he really the one who was pushing to giving those offers to Eun Ho, even though it could (an did) get her in trouble? I guess I will have to rewatch some things in this drama after all. Anyway, great comment! I agree that his characterization as a bad influence on her life started right at the beginning of the drama, and people should not be surprised or belittle us just because we don't buy it right now. So even though it was known that they will probably be together at the end, doesn't mean that we buy how it happened.
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I think the writer tried to trick us with the hug scene (still a beautiful scene), because only Hyeri would have…
I don't think it was. It was a hug of gratitude. She as Eun Ho may not have romantic feelings for him right now but he was the only person in this whole drama who would say that she's enough as she is. That is something enormous for a person struggling with self-worth to the point of harming oneself. BTW, I wonder if Hyun Oh supporters all forgot that, on the other hand, HO was the one who said to Eun Ho, who was already struggling as is, with whom he broke up without an explanation, that she's "embarrassing him"?? Again, those words carry so much weight for a person in such a mental and emotional state. And those words are coming from a person who supposedly "loved her" for almost a decade!
Exactly! Most of the criticism comes from the viewers that have a major problem with the writing and the lack…
Yeah, and for me it would be a fine route of writing her character, if there was a healing and growth journey. If she could, for example, find those hobbies and, essentialy, an identity and a life apart from the ML. But she didn't, and now that they're back together, he again is her WHOLE life, so if he happens to hurt her or leave her again, she will... we don't even know if she would recover after that happening again...
It's hard to understand people here, because they often say: "She should goes alone and heal, instead of giving…
@W two worlds Season 2 sc And also: She is alone "during one month, and as a result, comes back stronger"??? Have we watched the same episode?? Her coming to the conclusion that she can't be Hyeri does not change the fact that she's in pieces, man! Have you seen how and why she was found after that one month?? Because she run the hell outta there, terrified, exhausted and covered in blood! Her terribly bad mental and emotional health doesn't just disappear once she comes back! That must be why she fell back again into her ex's (even if not intentional) trap. Because she's so vulnerable and low on herself right now, because she's starving for acknowledgement, for acceptance, for love but most of all for identity. Because she knows now that she can't abandon Eun Ho and become Hyeri but she doesn't even know who Eun Ho is anymore. So even if Hyun Oh can give her affection or affirmation, those will again become her identity. And if he stops giving her those, she will fall right back into the abbys of depression.
I admit I may have been too hard on Hyun Oh if I ever stated that he's the main cause of her state. I don't think I ever did state that, but if so, I step down. I believe their relationship being unhealthy is not fully their fault, neither her or his. But what is important, and what I've been trying to convey in all those comments, is that it is unhealthy. And only one party at one time (Eun Ho saying "no" to him when he asked her to be sick) was aware of it and willing to let go. Why let go? Because a couple is a couple of people. Both parties have to work on it for it to work out. If one is not aware of the problem and won't engage to work through it, it won't get solved.
So their relationship will keep being unhealthy (if it changes in those 2 episodes, well, good but it's a wasted potential anyway and it doesn't make it believable)
No, what some people find hard to understand is that Hye-ri is also a part of Eun-ho. A subconscious part that's…
Beautiful comment, very eloquently presented arguments... and yet again after they told us "it's just life", we lay out arguments and they hit us with "calm down dude, it's just a drama" ๐ Anyway ๐ , cheers! ๐
It's hard to understand people here, because they often say: "She should goes alone and heal, instead of giving…
There is a difference between not being in a relationship and being alone. I'm pretty sure none of us thought her going to the forest completely alone in such a mental state as she was in was going to help her (not without cost, anyway).
But you can be single and do your own thing while also being surrounded by kind people, so you don't feel so lonely. When you do your own thing and rediscover yourself again, then you are (again) a functional adult who can take responsibility of their own life. I know something about it because I've been struggling with depression since my supposed transition from being a child to being an adult. And because of depression and other mental health issues it didn't happen. Through healing only (therapy, meds, proper sleep, diet, exercise, kind people, faith, finding my interests again etc) could I learn that, or rather, practice that and I'm still learning to take responsibility over my own life. And it takes time, effort, patience and support. And speaking of the drama, because that's why I'm bringing that up, Hyun Oh can't give Eun Ho that support and patience because he lacks self-awereness and consideration of her feelings and needs (not physical but emotional - they are oftentimes more important and urgent than the former, until it's too late...).
If instead Eun Ho continued therapy, started taking meds if needed, tried to find a hobby, so she can do something apart from work (which she should resign from and maybe really start working at the parking lot: unstressful job, kind people), with or without other people, she could find her own identity again, which crumbled and fell into pieces when her loved ones left her one after another (Hyun Oh too). And with Hyun Oh reuniting with her again, he's again her identity ๐ It's. Not. Healthy. In real life it would injure her again, but because it's a drama, the writer can come up with anything ofc ๐
Well, after all of the "psychoanalysis" of the characters and the looming of an extremely unsatisfactory ending,…
Some people say here that HO and EH are both flawed. But I guess they don't understand and didn't watch closely enough to notice that his lack of communication, and no continuation of self-reflection (which is also barely there. He only felt guilt but he did nothing new about it) is exactly what was a big cause to her being sick in the first place! This guy didn't change A BIT through the whole drama, and believe me when I say, that once they're together again, he won't change either
Well, after all of the "psychoanalysis" of the characters and the looming of an extremely unsatisfactory ending, I guess what I have left is to wait for Shin Hye Sun's and Kang Hoon's reunion in another drama ๐ฅฒ And to be clear, the ending will be (most likely) unsatisfactory for me not because she didn't end up with Ju Yeon but because she chose Hyun Oh after all the hurt he caused her, when he didn't apologize to her ONCE in the whole drama ๐ I like Eun Ho very much and I just feel sorry for her that she thinks she doesn't deserve healing and a healthy relationship... I stated what I think about it all in many comments below and I'm tired of some people laughing at "Ju Yeon shippers" while they simultaneously don't take the time to read others people's comments about why EH's and HO's relationship is not healthy and it's going to primarily hurt Eun Ho, as it did before
I can't believe I made an account just to comment on this drama!!Watched episode 9 and 10. Took almost 2hrs to…
I totally agree. Moreover, after what JY said to her, after her hugging him I was sure she would choose him. Or at least keep him in her life, and take time to heal while JY could be the support she needed. Also, Hye Yeon could be a gal friend to her, and with the support of those two people (and possibly occasionally of Ji On too) she could heal, go to therapy and regain control of her life and the will for living. But no! Let's have her go back to the unavailable, on-and-off going, savior-like toxic ex who has no intention on working on himself and owning up to his mistakes ๐ค๐ค What a healing ending!!!!! ๐ค๐ค๐๐๐
Love is not enough for a healthy relationship. Why is it that some friendships are healthier than romantic relationships?…
@Ahjummai Oh my, the last sentence ๐๐๐ Seriously tho, I agree. You described in two sentences what I needed a whole essay on xD He's treating her as a pet, not as a human being with her own feelings, reason and will
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Loved the first half but the second half was painful and unsatisfactory
And also:
She is alone "during one month, and as a result, comes back stronger"??? Have we watched the same episode?? Her coming to the conclusion that she can't be Hyeri does not change the fact that she's in pieces, man! Have you seen how and why she was found after that one month?? Because she run the hell outta there, terrified, exhausted and covered in blood! Her terribly bad mental and emotional health doesn't just disappear once she comes back! That must be why she fell back again into her ex's (even if not intentional) trap. Because she's so vulnerable and low on herself right now, because she's starving for acknowledgement, for acceptance, for love but most of all for identity. Because she knows now that she can't abandon Eun Ho and become Hyeri but she doesn't even know who Eun Ho is anymore. So even if Hyun Oh can give her affection or affirmation, those will again become her identity. And if he stops giving her those, she will fall right back into the abbys of depression.
I admit I may have been too hard on Hyun Oh if I ever stated that he's the main cause of her state. I don't think I ever did state that, but if so, I step down. I believe their relationship being unhealthy is not fully their fault, neither her or his. But what is important, and what I've been trying to convey in all those comments, is that it is unhealthy. And only one party at one time (Eun Ho saying "no" to him when he asked her to be sick) was aware of it and willing to let go. Why let go? Because a couple is a couple of people. Both parties have to work on it for it to work out. If one is not aware of the problem and won't engage to work through it, it won't get solved.
So their relationship will keep being unhealthy (if it changes in those 2 episodes, well, good but it's a wasted potential anyway and it doesn't make it believable)
Anyway ๐ , cheers! ๐
Bingo, that's what's so frustrating about it. We've been scammed ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
But you can be single and do your own thing while also being surrounded by kind people, so you don't feel so lonely. When you do your own thing and rediscover yourself again, then you are (again) a functional adult who can take responsibility of their own life. I know something about it because I've been struggling with depression since my supposed transition from being a child to being an adult. And because of depression and other mental health issues it didn't happen. Through healing only (therapy, meds, proper sleep, diet, exercise, kind people, faith, finding my interests again etc) could I learn that, or rather, practice that and I'm still learning to take responsibility over my own life. And it takes time, effort, patience and support.
And speaking of the drama, because that's why I'm bringing that up, Hyun Oh can't give Eun Ho that support and patience because he lacks self-awereness and consideration of her feelings and needs (not physical but emotional - they are oftentimes more important and urgent than the former, until it's too late...).
If instead Eun Ho continued therapy, started taking meds if needed, tried to find a hobby, so she can do something apart from work (which she should resign from and maybe really start working at the parking lot: unstressful job, kind people), with or without other people, she could find her own identity again, which crumbled and fell into pieces when her loved ones left her one after another (Hyun Oh too). And with Hyun Oh reuniting with her again, he's again her identity ๐ It's. Not. Healthy. In real life it would injure her again, but because it's a drama, the writer can come up with anything ofc ๐
And to be clear, the ending will be (most likely) unsatisfactory for me not because she didn't end up with Ju Yeon but because she chose Hyun Oh after all the hurt he caused her, when he didn't apologize to her ONCE in the whole drama ๐
I like Eun Ho very much and I just feel sorry for her that she thinks she doesn't deserve healing and a healthy relationship... I stated what I think about it all in many comments below and I'm tired of some people laughing at "Ju Yeon shippers" while they simultaneously don't take the time to read others people's comments about why EH's and HO's relationship is not healthy and it's going to primarily hurt Eun Ho, as it did before