If Bank's charisma could be bottled, he'd be rich! There's zero falsity in his physical movements, as though he's 100% at ease within his body. And, yes, he's beautiful, but that's not what makes him so interesting to watch. It's like watching panthers move-- everything about them is beautiful to look at.
Would had rated this higher if their girlfriends didn't existed. Why cheating plot, man :(
The thing you're discomforted by is boyfriends cheating on their girlfriends? Really?
How did you feel about the inclusion of these plot points?
• Sexual obsession • Robbery • Physical assault • Taking sexual advantage of a drunk person • Sexual Assault • Rape • A doctor crossing ethical boundaries and having a sexual relationship with their patient • Gay actors being forced by society to remain closeted/break-up or lose their careers • An ex-girlfriend trying to force her partner to choose her, even if a life with her would lead him to unhappiness
YOUR. ISSUE. IS. BOYFRIENDS. CHEATING. ON. THEIR. GIRLFRIENDS!!!!?
My questions are rhetorical. I don't require an answer from you.
He's beautiful in a way that's intriguing. He's not pretty/fem-coded/rough-around-the-edges/hyper-masc. He's simply beautiful. His type of beautiful surpasses interesting-- it's fascinating.
I laughed more in the first 2 episodes of this series than I've laughed watching a lot of recent comedies. It's so over-the-top ridiculous and I'm enjoying it.
I think it was a rough kiss due to Giu being shocked by it and the fact that his wife was within hearing distance…
We may not "need" it, but I appreciated the wife's presence in that moment, as it built believable tension into a scene that would otherwise have been merely sexually charged. Without her there, Gi U would have had the option to fully give over to Hyeon Jae, if he wanted to do so. Now, I'm left wondering whether or not, deep down, he wants to give in, and the next episodes will reveal Gi U's truth. Such a lovely build up of delicious tension! When it finally releases... I'm hoping for a big KABOOM!!!!!!!!! 💥😉
On the other side, it showed how little Hyeon Jae cared about conventional rules. He's willing to demand Gi U's full attention and surrender and damn anyone else standing in the way of that. Hyeon Jae will do anything to claim Gi U's attention, his surrender-- he'll do anything to claim him, and while the audience suspected this, because we saw how nimbly he manipulated circumstances to put himself in front of Gi U, now we know, beyond a shadow of doubt, that he's not going to choose to back off. Again... delicious tension before the inevitable explosion. 😉
Admittedly, I'm the type who's willing to defer an orgasm for hours; so, this type of build up is my sweet spot. 😂
I think it was a rough kiss due to Giu being shocked by it and the fact that his wife was within hearing distance…
Yes... to all of that, but... for me, the wife being there was a perfect encapsulation of everything that stands between them having the type of relationship that Hyeon Jae's actions proved he desires with Gi U. Even if Gi U wants it, the world is right outside the door, and that world is going to have a terrible reaction to it. That was some very clever writing on the screenwriter's part.
Looks like they already have been fucking. They keep asking to go to each other’s place when parents aren’t…
Oh my... I think you need to take a break from online discourse or speaking to people, all together, until you learn how to do so without taking a verbal crap all over yourself.
SPOILERI agree with your assessment that what the teacher is doing with the student-- especially bringing him…
Please don't feel ashamed. It makes perfect sense that you didn't connect your past behavior to Gi U's, as the brain tries to protect us from seeing ourselves clearly, especially when our behaviors can't be easily/rationally understood.
As for that friend of your friend who kept violating your boundaries, they knew you didn't want to be engaged in the way they wanted, but they continued because they cared only about their own desires. A lot of emotionally immature people behave as that person did. With life experiences, we learn how to handle those type of people and make it crystal clear that they have to back off. With some people, we have to do away with pleasantry and just come out and say, "Do not touch me," and be prepared to them to have an unpleasant reaction to us putting up firm boundaries.
As for Gi U, it may be revealed, in future episodes, that he does build a true emotional bond with Hyeon Jae, as when Hyeon Jae kissed him, he may have been able to penetrate the dissociative mental space that Gi U currently exists in and pulled him forcefully into the present moment. That's not healthiest way for a bond to be forged, but it does happen. Neither of them are currently in the best mental health, so.... Even mentally unstable people are deserving of connection.
I think it was a rough kiss due to Giu being shocked by it and the fact that his wife was within hearing distance…
Currently, in this show, the only one in possession of the "underlying dark obsession" is Hyeon Jae. He's the only one aware that they're also communicating online. He's the one who's hyper-focused on Gi U, not the other way around, which is why when he realized that Gi U sees him as any other struggling student, he snapped and forced the kiss on him. He wanted to make it clear that he won't tolerate Gi U's professional and deeply ingrained emotional distance.
Despite his behavior towards Gi U, it's apparent that Hyeon Jae is a gentle and respectful person, belying his reactive behavior. He's always polite, even to the staff in the restaurant (when they had dinner), and even though he can defend himself, he lets his father hit him, and he only defended himself against Jeong Ha's attack when he could have done much worse. He tolerates the bully's behavior without striking out. Hyeon Jae wanted to kiss Gi U, to get closer to him, not overpower him. He initially held Gi U's hand, forcefully, to stop Gi U from pushing him away, but once Gi U stopped fighting, he released his hand, and then gently cradled his head.
The level of passion in their first kiss was perfectly in accord with the characters. Gi U was in shock and Hyeon Jae, who'd made a deliberate decision to use physical intimacy to break through Gi U's dissociative state, was assertive, yet gentle. Hyeon Jae doesn't rush any of his decisions-- he considers his moves carefully. He chose to kiss Gi U gently, because his wantsGi U to want to kiss him back. He's coaxing him.
SPOILERI agree with your assessment that what the teacher is doing with the student-- especially bringing him…
I've been in Gi U's position-- a dissociative state, since early childhood, and therefore having poor, almost nonexistent, boundaries. The first time a female friend kissed me, I responded the same way-- immobilized with shock and only snapped out of it when I realized things were progressing beyond the point of reason. I'd misread all the signals that she was attracted to me, because I existed more in my head than in the world. It took a long time for me to come out of that state and begin to learn healthy boundaries.
I read Gi U finally snapping out of his shock and dissociative state when he heard his wife's voice as him coming back to the situation, out of his thoughts and into the present situation, and realizing just how serious the infraction would be perceived. It wasn't just his fear of getting caught-- he literally snapped back in. But, he's used to capitulating to a stronger force, and so, despite the proximity of his wife, he gave back in to Hyeon Jae. Notice, that even though he gave in, in that moment, he was still passive, and allowed himself to be kissed. I have to wonder if Gi U was also abused as a child, and his mother pretended not to notice, which would have led to him choosing dissociation as a survival tactic. This would also explain his inability to watch a child suffer, one who has no one else who's willing to step in, and not offer a helping hand.
I don't know what happened in Gi Woo's past, but what he is doing to a student now is downright wrong
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I agree with your assessment that what the teacher is doing with the student-- especially bringing him home to stay the night-- is downright wrong. Hyeon Jae needs an emotional anchor, a safe place, but Gi U, as his teacher, can't be the one to provide it in the manner he's allowing himself to.
Gi U evidently has an issue with boundaries, as his mother just enters his home whenever she pleases, and he already experienced hardship because he assisted a student in the past. That other student was likely in a difficult situation at home, as well, and he overextended himself to help in that situation and got burned because of it. Somehow, he's yet to learn how to be a helpful presence in his students' lives without getting tangled up in those lives. Still, considering his shock when Hyeon Jae kissed him, he never considered that a student would cross the line so forcefully, but he should have seen that coming when Hyeon Jae hugged him earlier and then fed him-- directly hand to mouth-- the food during dinner. Hyeon Jae showed that he refuses to allow a barrier to exist between them and demonstrated that he had no problem with crossing social lines to be closer to him.
I think Gi U's issue is that he's lived his entire life in a depressive/suppressed haze. As he hasn't been deeply emotionally moved, by most things and people, he's been left floating in a dissociative haze, and so hasn't learned how to construct healthy boundaries, much less apply them. But, to Gi U's shock, Hyeon Jae's forcefully reaching through that dissociation and grabbing on to him.
This drama is already messy and is going to get much, much messier. A good ending may not be in the cards-- if the writing is honest, it won't be.
I think it was a rough kiss due to Giu being shocked by it and the fact that his wife was within hearing distance…
To me, considering everything standing between them, such as the rules of society, their roles in that society, the emotional dead zone the teacher existed in, as well as who was directly outside the door, "[T]hru the roof intensity," in that moment would have rung false. Yes, the student has the passion, but the teacher doesn't have access to it-- yet.
Have you ever seen the South Korean drama, NO REGRET, as well as the Japanese drama, MEET ME AFTER SCHOOL? The first one depicts a wealthy man who falls head-over-heels in love with a poor man, and the second one depicts a student who falls head-over-heels in love with his teacher. Both reveal how tangled and difficult those types of bonds can be and how many hoops, emotionally and socially, they have to jump through to hold on to each other. Just going for the intensity, immediately, isn't something people just do, simply because a bond exists.
Yeah, the first scene of him literally gave me chills. The entire thing was going pretty indie mood until he showed…
I get the feeling that Mr. Loan Shark has some type of relationship with Hyeon Jae, as he knows that the teacher goes by the name "Regret." He's either a close friend or a relative-- maybe even an older sibling-- which will complicate things much further.
This whole series is a hot tangled mess. Not unlike life can often be.
How did you feel about the inclusion of these plot points?
• Sexual obsession
• Robbery
• Physical assault
• Taking sexual advantage of a drunk person
• Sexual Assault
• Rape
• A doctor crossing ethical boundaries and having a sexual relationship with their patient
• Gay actors being forced by society to remain closeted/break-up or lose their careers
• An ex-girlfriend trying to force her partner to choose her, even if a life with her would lead him to unhappiness
YOUR. ISSUE. IS. BOYFRIENDS. CHEATING. ON. THEIR. GIRLFRIENDS!!!!?
My questions are rhetorical. I don't require an answer from you.
On the other side, it showed how little Hyeon Jae cared about conventional rules. He's willing to demand Gi U's full attention and surrender and damn anyone else standing in the way of that. Hyeon Jae will do anything to claim Gi U's attention, his surrender-- he'll do anything to claim him, and while the audience suspected this, because we saw how nimbly he manipulated circumstances to put himself in front of Gi U, now we know, beyond a shadow of doubt, that he's not going to choose to back off. Again... delicious tension before the inevitable explosion. 😉
Admittedly, I'm the type who's willing to defer an orgasm for hours; so, this type of build up is my sweet spot. 😂
Ciao, angry internet stranger.
As for that friend of your friend who kept violating your boundaries, they knew you didn't want to be engaged in the way they wanted, but they continued because they cared only about their own desires. A lot of emotionally immature people behave as that person did. With life experiences, we learn how to handle those type of people and make it crystal clear that they have to back off. With some people, we have to do away with pleasantry and just come out and say, "Do not touch me," and be prepared to them to have an unpleasant reaction to us putting up firm boundaries.
As for Gi U, it may be revealed, in future episodes, that he does build a true emotional bond with Hyeon Jae, as when Hyeon Jae kissed him, he may have been able to penetrate the dissociative mental space that Gi U currently exists in and pulled him forcefully into the present moment. That's not healthiest way for a bond to be forged, but it does happen. Neither of them are currently in the best mental health, so.... Even mentally unstable people are deserving of connection.
I wonder why he isn't credited in BOY, WITH CAUTION.
Despite his behavior towards Gi U, it's apparent that Hyeon Jae is a gentle and respectful person, belying his reactive behavior. He's always polite, even to the staff in the restaurant (when they had dinner), and even though he can defend himself, he lets his father hit him, and he only defended himself against Jeong Ha's attack when he could have done much worse. He tolerates the bully's behavior without striking out. Hyeon Jae wanted to kiss Gi U, to get closer to him, not overpower him. He initially held Gi U's hand, forcefully, to stop Gi U from pushing him away, but once Gi U stopped fighting, he released his hand, and then gently cradled his head.
The level of passion in their first kiss was perfectly in accord with the characters. Gi U was in shock and Hyeon Jae, who'd made a deliberate decision to use physical intimacy to break through Gi U's dissociative state, was assertive, yet gentle. Hyeon Jae doesn't rush any of his decisions-- he considers his moves carefully. He chose to kiss Gi U gently, because his wantsGi U to want to kiss him back. He's coaxing him.
I read Gi U finally snapping out of his shock and dissociative state when he heard his wife's voice as him coming back to the situation, out of his thoughts and into the present situation, and realizing just how serious the infraction would be perceived. It wasn't just his fear of getting caught-- he literally snapped back in. But, he's used to capitulating to a stronger force, and so, despite the proximity of his wife, he gave back in to Hyeon Jae. Notice, that even though he gave in, in that moment, he was still passive, and allowed himself to be kissed. I have to wonder if Gi U was also abused as a child, and his mother pretended not to notice, which would have led to him choosing dissociation as a survival tactic. This would also explain his inability to watch a child suffer, one who has no one else who's willing to step in, and not offer a helping hand.
I agree with your assessment that what the teacher is doing with the student-- especially bringing him home to stay the night-- is downright wrong. Hyeon Jae needs an emotional anchor, a safe place, but Gi U, as his teacher, can't be the one to provide it in the manner he's allowing himself to.
Gi U evidently has an issue with boundaries, as his mother just enters his home whenever she pleases, and he already experienced hardship because he assisted a student in the past. That other student was likely in a difficult situation at home, as well, and he overextended himself to help in that situation and got burned because of it. Somehow, he's yet to learn how to be a helpful presence in his students' lives without getting tangled up in those lives. Still, considering his shock when Hyeon Jae kissed him, he never considered that a student would cross the line so forcefully, but he should have seen that coming when Hyeon Jae hugged him earlier and then fed him-- directly hand to mouth-- the food during dinner. Hyeon Jae showed that he refuses to allow a barrier to exist between them and demonstrated that he had no problem with crossing social lines to be closer to him.
I think Gi U's issue is that he's lived his entire life in a depressive/suppressed haze. As he hasn't been deeply emotionally moved, by most things and people, he's been left floating in a dissociative haze, and so hasn't learned how to construct healthy boundaries, much less apply them. But, to Gi U's shock, Hyeon Jae's forcefully reaching through that dissociation and grabbing on to him.
This drama is already messy and is going to get much, much messier. A good ending may not be in the cards-- if the writing is honest, it won't be.
Have you ever seen the South Korean drama, NO REGRET, as well as the Japanese drama, MEET ME AFTER SCHOOL? The first one depicts a wealthy man who falls head-over-heels in love with a poor man, and the second one depicts a student who falls head-over-heels in love with his teacher. Both reveal how tangled and difficult those types of bonds can be and how many hoops, emotionally and socially, they have to jump through to hold on to each other. Just going for the intensity, immediately, isn't something people just do, simply because a bond exists.
This whole series is a hot tangled mess. Not unlike life can often be.