No one hating women but it's just her character under developed and did add nothing to story
Yes, she is suffering. One can waste their life in an unrequited love bond, and were I to have a friend in that situation, I would advise them to cut their losses; but, I would be advising, not expecting that they'd listen to me, because love isn't cut and dry.
The second scenario you mentioned: "seeing their loved one down also takes a toll on their mind and can affect them negatively, continuing the cycle, won't it be better to cut the contact off somewhere?"
This one's more complicated. Every single person who finds themself in a long term bond with someone affected by a chronic ailment goes through the same issue. It's not always better for them to cut off contact.
No one hating women but it's just her character under developed and did add nothing to story
"[If} one truly loved someone then they would realise the sufferings and depression the other person is facing and help them to take the proper course of action to obtain professional help[.]"
Firstly, this is not always the case. Just because we love someone doesn't mean we'll magically know what/how someone is struggling. Often, the person struggling has devised multiple coping mechanisms that keep their struggle hidden from the ones who love them-- they may even be hiding the extent of their struggle from themselves. Children frequently hide the extent of their depression from their parents, while their friends may be aware of it, but be unequipped to provide proper assistance. Spouses who live in the same environment may be blindsided by their partner's substance abuse. There are loved ones who end up suffering intense guilt because they feel they missed the signs of their loved one's suffering and only learned about it after the sufferer did something irrevocable, like attempt or succeed in ending their life; but, they didn't just overlook signs, those signs were actively being suppressed by the sufferer. They'd put on a masterful act before everything collapsed. It's even more difficult to spot the symptoms if a partner met the individual after the depression was already established. They'll only know them as that type of person-- not who they were without it.
Secondly, the person who requires the assistance may not be open to receiving guidance or assistance from the person attempting to offer it. Just because we love someone and they love us back doesn't mean we are the right person to help them out of mental hell. Oftentimes, it's a hand extended by a stranger that the sufferer will grab on to, or instead of a spouse's hand, it will be a childhood friend's or a distant relative's.
Too much blame and weight is being placed on the shoulders of Hong Jaein. Her character is a true representation of many people, male and female, who are deeply in love with someone who's mired in a depressive state. Would it be better for her to walk away? Maybe. But, love isn't reasonable, and if everyone who found themselves attached to a depressive walked away for their own good, then those people would have no one.
No one hating women but it's just her character under developed and did add nothing to story
This series isn't that serious in the grand scheme of things, but you posed a query that is serious to me; therefore, I'll take the liberty of responding seriously.
To me, relationships-- healthy ones-- offer support in the best and worst of times, but they can't cure depression. That type of thinking is at the core of unhealthy co-dependent bonds. Many people in emotionally abusive and/or draining relationships tend to operate under the false belief that they can love someone into a healthy state of mind; that their love can save them from depression, get them to stop drinking, give them a reason to stop taking drugs, and on and on. Sadly, due to my work, I've witnessed many people, both males and females, lovers, spouses, friends, parents, siblings, waste their lives in this manner.
Depending on the nature of someone's depression-- as in its root cause-- there are myriad courses of action that can be undertaken to offer assistance in easing the depression to the point where it lifts temporarily and, hopefully, eventually dissipates permanently. Loving someone is a beautiful gift, but when someone places themself in the role of savior, that's the ego operating under the delusion of self-importance, otherwise referred to as the savior complex.
I don't give a rat's ass, either way. If she were a male, the railing against her choices wouldn't be carrying the same thread of, "Woman, get the hell out of here, we don't want to see you here. Why is there a woman inserted into this story?"
No one hating women but it's just her character under developed and did add nothing to story
Where exactly did I say or imply any of that? You're communicating with me AND writing my thoughts for me? What I wrote was, "Why would her love or anyone else's cure his depression?"
By the bye, there's no official timeline for how long is too long to build a particular type of relationship. Humans are machines that can be programmed to operate on a specific timeline.
Just let the story do what it's doing without the unnecessary bashing of the female character. Is she meant to be with a character? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way is perfectly fine and no female characters need to ripped to shreds in the interim.
No one hating women but it's just her character under developed and did add nothing to story
Why would her love or anyone else's cure his depression? Is this meant to be a fairytale or set in our reality? Only children and the immature think that love is some miraculous cure for depression.
I know that. Do many of the people commenting know that? How many are complaining about the female lead being included in the story or how they refuse to accept that the men aren't romantically in love with each other?
No one hating women but it's just her character under developed and did add nothing to story
Clearly, the character IS adding something to the story, but it is something you, and those like you, do not want to be there.
I wrote what I wrote. You won't be changing my mind about your behavior and those of your ilk. As a grown woman, I'm embarrassed that this segment of the female audience continues to act like typical women bashing incels. It is cringe-worthy.
No one's hating women, it's the poorly character of the fl that everyone's talking about. Don't you think the…
Please, try not to be a revisionist. I can see the comments below. If you're responding to me to try and convince me that I have it all wrong, save yourself the bother of attempting to justify the behavior. It's ridiculous enough already.
Why do so many female fans of BL hate women? The comments on here, regarding the female lead, make my skin crawl.
EDIT My comment has brought the team of fans who want to make it clear they're not hating on the female actress, just how her role was written, and what her character is doing, because... well, reasons. The more they're protesting, the more it appears they just don't want the female character to be in the series at all, because.... well, reasons. BUT, they don't have a problem with a woman being in that role. Not. At. All. 🤪
I'll surprise you but people watch them for their chemistry, acting skills and plots with high production value.…
That's quite evident to me. And I don't blame them nor their audience for this. They're vastly entertaining. But, all audiences change and grow. What floats their boat now eventually evolves. In 5 years, if the dynamic of the two of them working together as men who are in love, but not sexually, is still as popular as it is today, then I'll give them a round of applause.
If you've never dry humped yourself to an orgasm, have you really lived? 😂Just kidding, but also not at all.…
Maybe I'm an anomaly for having experienced this myself-- many times. In a club, in bathrooms, in cars, on a bridge, on a yacht, on a plane, on floors, on couches, and a few times even on comfy beds. Dry humping to orgasm is a great way to pass the time.😅 Sexuality is a spectrum and mine is all over it.
As for you being 34-- what does that have to do with your understanding of this particular subject? My initial comment was meant to give those who are underage the option of not reading an explicit comment. I won't conflate your being 34 with being sexually experienced. I know enough 30 somethings who aren't sexually experienced or so frigid sexually that the experiences they have had are about as interesting as watching paint dry.
Vincent surely lacks social and emotional intelligence cuz who on earth says that to their loved ones and on their…
"Vincent surely lacks social and emotional intelligence [...]." Ya think!?
Whether birthday or not, that's not something one should EVER say to a partner, unless you're hoping to breakup immediately. No self-respecting person would tolerate such a thing.
Ugh!! I've seen this show by episode 5. But now since I've read the novel, I'm driving this show. Life is already…
PLEASE. Before you leave this series behind, be so kind as to place a spoiler tag on your comment. You've revealed far too much for those who haven't read the novel.
The AI use is jarring and absolutely unecessary. "Telling" sometimes works better than "showing".…
"'Telling' sometimes works better than 'showing'." You've got that adage backwards. When it comes to film, the saying is: SHOW, DON'T TELL.
"Show, don't tell" is a storytelling rule that means letting the audience see a character's traits, feelings, or plot details through actions and images instead of hearing them in dialogue. Exposition, where a character tells someone something that happened, is the fastest way to kill the momentum of anything in a visual medium.
Granted, the AI scenes, in this series, are very jarring, but they're using them to show violent scenes that involve children or gruesome killings, so... I'm letting it slide. I don't need to see a child actor in those scenes nor am I particularly in love with scenes where adult human beings are stabbed, shot, and/or bombed to smithereens.
which bl was shot at that aquarium that it became a pilgrimage?
I get the feeling this is a typical date activity in Japan. Considering it's an island chain country, it's not surprising that an aquarium seems to pop up in many romantic series/movies.
The second scenario you mentioned: "seeing their loved one down also takes a toll on their mind and can affect them negatively, continuing the cycle, won't it be better to cut the contact off somewhere?"
This one's more complicated. Every single person who finds themself in a long term bond with someone affected by a chronic ailment goes through the same issue. It's not always better for them to cut off contact.
Firstly, this is not always the case. Just because we love someone doesn't mean we'll magically know what/how someone is struggling. Often, the person struggling has devised multiple coping mechanisms that keep their struggle hidden from the ones who love them-- they may even be hiding the extent of their struggle from themselves. Children frequently hide the extent of their depression from their parents, while their friends may be aware of it, but be unequipped to provide proper assistance. Spouses who live in the same environment may be blindsided by their partner's substance abuse. There are loved ones who end up suffering intense guilt because they feel they missed the signs of their loved one's suffering and only learned about it after the sufferer did something irrevocable, like attempt or succeed in ending their life; but, they didn't just overlook signs, those signs were actively being suppressed by the sufferer. They'd put on a masterful act before everything collapsed. It's even more difficult to spot the symptoms if a partner met the individual after the depression was already established. They'll only know them as that type of person-- not who they were without it.
Secondly, the person who requires the assistance may not be open to receiving guidance or assistance from the person attempting to offer it. Just because we love someone and they love us back doesn't mean we are the right person to help them out of mental hell. Oftentimes, it's a hand extended by a stranger that the sufferer will grab on to, or instead of a spouse's hand, it will be a childhood friend's or a distant relative's.
Too much blame and weight is being placed on the shoulders of Hong Jaein. Her character is a true representation of many people, male and female, who are deeply in love with someone who's mired in a depressive state. Would it be better for her to walk away? Maybe. But, love isn't reasonable, and if everyone who found themselves attached to a depressive walked away for their own good, then those people would have no one.
To me, relationships-- healthy ones-- offer support in the best and worst of times, but they can't cure depression. That type of thinking is at the core of unhealthy co-dependent bonds. Many people in emotionally abusive and/or draining relationships tend to operate under the false belief that they can love someone into a healthy state of mind; that their love can save them from depression, get them to stop drinking, give them a reason to stop taking drugs, and on and on. Sadly, due to my work, I've witnessed many people, both males and females, lovers, spouses, friends, parents, siblings, waste their lives in this manner.
Depending on the nature of someone's depression-- as in its root cause-- there are myriad courses of action that can be undertaken to offer assistance in easing the depression to the point where it lifts temporarily and, hopefully, eventually dissipates permanently. Loving someone is a beautiful gift, but when someone places themself in the role of savior, that's the ego operating under the delusion of self-importance, otherwise referred to as the savior complex.
By the bye, there's no official timeline for how long is too long to build a particular type of relationship. Humans are machines that can be programmed to operate on a specific timeline.
Just let the story do what it's doing without the unnecessary bashing of the female character. Is she meant to be with a character? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way is perfectly fine and no female characters need to ripped to shreds in the interim.
I wrote what I wrote. You won't be changing my mind about your behavior and those of your ilk. As a grown woman, I'm embarrassed that this segment of the female audience continues to act like typical women bashing incels. It is cringe-worthy.
EDIT
My comment has brought the team of fans who want to make it clear they're not hating on the female actress, just how her role was written, and what her character is doing, because... well, reasons. The more they're protesting, the more it appears they just don't want the female character to be in the series at all, because.... well, reasons. BUT, they don't have a problem with a woman being in that role. Not. At. All. 🤪
As for you being 34-- what does that have to do with your understanding of this particular subject? My initial comment was meant to give those who are underage the option of not reading an explicit comment. I won't conflate your being 34 with being sexually experienced. I know enough 30 somethings who aren't sexually experienced or so frigid sexually that the experiences they have had are about as interesting as watching paint dry.
Whether birthday or not, that's not something one should EVER say to a partner, unless you're hoping to breakup immediately. No self-respecting person would tolerate such a thing.
Before you leave this series behind, be so kind as to place a spoiler tag on your comment. You've revealed far too much for those who haven't read the novel.
"Show, don't tell" is a storytelling rule that means letting the audience see a character's traits, feelings, or plot details through actions and images instead of hearing them in dialogue. Exposition, where a character tells someone something that happened, is the fastest way to kill the momentum of anything in a visual medium.
Granted, the AI scenes, in this series, are very jarring, but they're using them to show violent scenes that involve children or gruesome killings, so... I'm letting it slide. I don't need to see a child actor in those scenes nor am I particularly in love with scenes where adult human beings are stabbed, shot, and/or bombed to smithereens.