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I already stated that the wife's approval and adjustment was unrealistically rushed. By your logic, if Toey and Oat are in touch at all, Oat might as well sneak out so they can fuck every night too because it's all the same...lol. Are there no shades of gray at all in your black and white world?

It is great that you lead a life free of major mistakes or moral shortcomings, unlike the rest of us humans, as it puts you in this morally superior position from which to judge and proclaim punishments.

You keep going in circles arguing around yourself. You seem to be saying that given what has transpired to this point, there is NO way to proceed without a horrible ending and I just don't agree with that. Divorces are only as nasty as the two people divorcing and children often do BETTER, not worse, once relieved of life in a house full of daily tension.

I get it, you think Oat and Toey are awful people who have done awful things so they should just continue to do awful things, not own up to it and change things for the better, and while we're at it, they should light themselves on fire and die an agonizing death in the town square to atone for their crimes against humanity.

At this point, I wonder what it is about yourself that has allowed this movie to so get under your skin. As I said above, you might give that some thought and maybe learn something new.

How did Oat "ask for pity?" Are you forgetting he was the one laying in bed with Toey telling him that he, Oat, should come clean with the wife, get a divorce and live as who he was,and that he and Toey should be together? He WANTED to go back and break up. Where was the audience asked to applaud his choice to marry despite his sexuality? He wanted to correct that mistake. Toey talked him out of it.

Yes, he hurt his wife and child (the child who would not exist if he had not made his "mistake," by the way) but would it be kinder to continue lying to them for another 50 years, possibly going mad in the process?

I just don't get where you keep getting that the movie "excuses" any of these negative actions. To me it clearly demonstrates the suffering caused by such choices. Those choices, however, are NOT made in a vacuum; Asian society in particular, depending on the country, is hard-core anti-gay. People traumatized from youth and taught to be ashamed of who they are might be cut some slack when they make dubious decisions related to same.

Toey kept in touch, but it was not my impression that he and Oat ever met in person again until they ran into each other at the airport. After that they were in touch on FB but never met in person or had sex. Did I miss something. Four years he did the right thing in keeping his distance, and for four years he remained in love with Oat. What, exactly, did he do that was so abhorrent? My feeling is that he should have cut off contact, primarily for his own sake, so he could begin to get over Oat and not keep hanging on, experiencing some degree of daily pain over the matter and preventing him from forming new relationships with other people. That's what I didn't like about his sobbing rebuke of Oat toward the end; it felt like he was blaming Oat for his-Toey's-choices. But that just takes me back to the point that we all make really stupid choices and mistakes throughout life, and we often can't see what we're doing from our own perspective.

Toey couldn't bring himself to break off contact, and yet he seemed to be blaming Oat for that, which isn't fair And that's OK. Though it wasn't spelled out, perhaps he came to understand that to be the case.

One thing I really liked about the movie was that Oat kept telling Toey that he wanted him to allow him to take care of Toey. But Toey replied twice that they needed to take care of each other. That was lovely.

Again, I just get a really judgmental, condemnatory vibe from your posts.

I just watched that second trailer and I have a feeling that story line is going to break my heart. But that brings up another potential problem with this series: Given that the entire thing is just over three hours long, and there is a plethora of bizarre plot points and character inconsistencies to be dealt with regarding the MC, do they really have time to give a delicate side-story like this the exposition it deserves? I doubt it.

Could you please point out in the movie where the movie "encouraged" cheating? You somehow missed the awful emotional toll both of them paid for their affair. Can you point out where I or the movie tried to "justify" cheating? There is a difference between justifying and explaining. Where in the movie did it seem to ask for "pity" for these characters? Where did I ask for "pity?" Understanding, however, is key to forgiveness and humans getting along in general. Only in understanding where we are all coming from, can any of us move forward together.

Do you seriously believe that this movie's primary message is "yeah, if you're gay, go out and marry a straight girl and pretend to be straight yourself! It's a great way to live and will lead to nothing but happiness!"?

You also seem to believe that anything less than sparkling, upright and perfect human behavior should never be portrayed in film or any other form of art because well, if it is, all the stupid audience members will run out and follow suit. lol First of all, movies would be boring as hell with everyone doing the right thing from start to finish. There would be no such thing as an interesting film. Bad behavior makes for great entertainment and drama. Don't care if you don't like it, that's how it is.

There is a puritanical, nasty streak to your comments here in which you want to see people who make mistakes suffer in misery and most of all be PUNISHED severely for their actions with no hope for redemption. Toey suffered greatly throughout both movies because of his choices. You're apparently too righteous and holy to see that he did. Your loss.

I ask because I pay a subscription to blofficial.com. I'll investigate.

The cliche's were pulled off with originality, flair and believability in the first season. And the characters were appealing. There is no story under the sun that has not been told before, BUT there are an infinite number of WAYS to tell the same stories over and over, which is what differentiates one good production from another. Here the once-likeable characters are now revolting and the insane cloud of mystery the show makers apparently intended to stir up is stinking up the place. That's the difference to me. That's the reason for the rant.

If you are dying, why does that mean you don't communicate AT ALL? If that was the case he could have flown home to tell him. We're talking about FIVE YEARS. Besides which he is clearly still alive. lol The whole concept is absurd.

I love these two films together, pacing and all. Especially during the second I cried softly or loudly, off and on throughout the entire thing, either from the simple tenderness displayed, the sadness or the joy. Keep paper towels nearby as you watch.

The actor playing Toey here is off the charts talented. I adore him and hope he's getting lots of work.

I think of it as an Asian lgbt film, myself. I love a lot of BLs, but I don't hold them to as the same high standards I require of an lgbt feature film.

I found the behavior of the wife not unrealistic, but I do think it was rushed. I wish the plot had given her more time to get to the point she did, to work thru anger, grief, feelings of betrayal, et. and THEN to get to forgiveness and even support. But here she did that all in one night. HOWEVER, if we'd been shown that she already knew what was likely going on and this merely confirmed it, that might have made the overnight transformation more believable.

I would say it is not the HOTTEST, but it is the BEST combination of hot sex and raw love, which to me makes for a perfect sex scene. Affection makes sex sexier.

These two movies together are in maybe my top 15 favorite gay-themed flicks. I don't call it a "BL" because that's a downgrade to me, though I am a hardcore BL fan. I just feel like "BL" denotes generally lower standards across the board.

I adore the character of Toey and the actor who plays him. So real, authentic and true. Toey is a real person to me, not some actor "acting" a part. His every move and facial tic is genuine and motivated in a completely natural way. He's also uniquely beautiful/handsome, though I wish he'd eat a few burgers with fries. :D The actor playing Oat is a little less convincing, but only a little. I like their chemistry and interplay very much. The affection between them is convincing, especially in the swimming lesson scene and the lovemaking scene, which is one of the most romantic, sexy gay bed scenes I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing. It is clear what' s going on physically, but it's not graphic or vulgar and the emotion between them during the sex is as, or more, important than whose parts are going where.

Side characters were all great. I like that they added layers to the story and provided necessary perspectives and information, as opposed to being thrown in just for laughs or filler.

The wife's too-quick adjustment to her new knowledge of her husband's character, sexuality and whereabouts seemed rushed to me. And I NEVER would accept an engagement ring from a lover that was a hand-me-down from his first wife, but whatever.

I hope young Mr. Adisorn has a long, successful acting career ahead of him. I will be watching.

It is convenient for you that you live in a universe of black and white, where people-yes, maybe even you-do or don't do things for multiple reasons, some "good," some "bad," and sometimes not understanding why you are doing them in the first place or for what motives. I'm not going to spend much time on this response because you are clearly not open to alternate perspectives, but I didn't want to let your ridiculous diatribe go unremarked upon.

Toey tortured himself over what he was enabling in regard to Oat's family and yes, at the same time kept in touch with him. News flash! People do contradictory and unwise things all the time. He also tried to keep his distance from Oat, and he is the one who sent Oat packing back to his wife even though his heart was breaking to do so.

I see nothing at all unrealistic about saying, "OK, we're going to give ourselves this cocoon of time together, live in this moment, and then you have to go back and do the right thing." It happens all the time. Where you and I mainly disagree regards whether staying with his wife is the "right" thing for Oat to do in the first place. What is "right" about compounding a huge mistake based on dishonesty by continuing to live the rest of your life within that lie? What is honorable about going back to a woman and allowing the rest of her life to be spent with someone who doesn't truly love her? What is "right" about sacrificing your own life because you made a choice at a young age, under pressure and based on fucked-up societal norms? Better to come clean, admit your mistake, live honorably going forward, set your wife free to find authentic happiness and live with the one you love. I see NOTHING negative about any of that. You admit your mistake, ,you correct your mistake,, you learn the lesson and you move forward with that new knowledge and experience under your belt. It's bizarre to me that you would say any of that is wrong.

I do agree that a couple of key plot points were not believable and rushed. Namely, Oat's wife's too-swift adjustment to the knowledge that Oat was gay and cheating. Even a liberal, loving, caring, intelligent person would need more than one night to take that in and make the best and healthiest adjustment to it. If she did so because maybe she already knew is one thing, but that was not presented as being the case. She did, however, tell Oat that she had felt the entire time with him that he loved but was not IN love with her, and that he felt like a beloved brother to her, not a lover. So her healthy approach was not entirely without basis. She knew something was off.

Also, I found it a little much that she would come along with Oat to get Toey, and that she would stand on the beach and cheer Oat on, though again, that might have worked if there was more of an adjustment period beforehand. The worst plot choice to me was Oat using the wife's ring to give to Toey. Ick! Ack! I wanted Toey to say "damn, boy, you better get your ass out and get me my own freaking ring, I'm not taking hand-me-downs from your wife!" :D

I found some of Toey's back-and-forth and seemingly contradictory accusations against Oat regarding what he knew of love and whether or not to divorce his wife and be with Toey was the right thing to do kind of confusing, BUT to me TOEY was confused and torn two ways and not sure of much at all and that's what his sobbing rebuke of Oat in the middle of the night toward the end was all about. Don't forget that being gay in the first place is a source of shame and insecurity to Toey; he didn't think of himself as gay until he met Oat in the first movie. He's still getting used to the idea and all of society is telling him, and has been telling him from birth, that being gay is a disgraceful, shameful thing. I found it lovely that it is Oat at the end who is giving Toey the strength to embrace his sexuality and his romantic feelings, because he has a RIGHT as a human being, to have those feelings.

You might consider that this flick got under your skin for various reasons, to such a degree that you're so adamant about your reactions to it. Maybe you ought to examine those reactions and see what they might be able to tell you about yourself.

NIGHT FLIGHT rocks. One of my top five favorite gay-themed flicks of any nationality.

NIGHT FLIGHT is in my top five gay-themed movies of all time.

That's an interesting idea, though I've seen it explored in other gay film genres. My own opinion that it is almost impossible for a polyamorous relationship to work, given the complexities of human nature and our natural tendency toward jealousy. That said, maybe if you had exactly the right combination of three personality types somehow brought together it would stand a chance. But it would never meet my standards for trust, responsibility and loyalty. But...if you're referring to a three-way relationship among the three psychos in this film, I am quite certain that wouldn't last a week without a murder/suicide.

I'm debating whether or not to watch this tonight after reading the review and some of the comments. Horrible, sad endings in Chinese or Korean BLs don't destroy me the way they used to. I know they're coming and at this point it just seems like a stupid joke when the inevitable break-up or suicide, murder or other form of death occurs. When I had just discovered the BL universe I would sob like a baby, absolutely devastated, but now I find myself rolling my eyes. There have been a couple of times that I actually laughed out loud when the tragic ending came because it was such a cliche, even though I didn't know about it ahead of time.

It sounds like the story here leading up to the all-gays-must-be-unhappy ending might be intriguing so perhaps I'll give it a go anyway.

Oh, I'm sorry. Was your "not my problem" comment made as an effort to be nice? I'm sorry. Somehow I missed that. Also, "AF" is fairly rude too, wouldn't you say? Or does it only count if you spell it out? lol You are amusingly self-unaware.

What is that "hidden" motive and why isn't it evident on screen? If you're talking about the motive being that he suddenly wants Shu Yi back after paying him no attention for FIVE years, and selfishly expecting to be welcomed back with open arms, that motive is no secret and certainly not hidden. He could have used the time he spent cooking to explain, out loud, whether Shu Yi wanted to hear it or not. Instead he beat around the bush and minimized Shu Yi's pain with thinly veiled insults. Not my problem you can't see what's happening on the screen in front of you, and are instead making up stuff in your head about why characters act the way they do.

Is blofficial.com pirated?