Perhaps this is a largely unpopular opinion, but after reading through comments for weeks and the new ones again today, and being haunted by this story in between my hour-long sessions at the computer soaking in this masterpiece, and thinking about all of it a lot, I STILL WANT OH AND TEH TO BE TOGETHER WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE. It may just be my sappy, romantic BL heart that insists on believing that, even after all that's gone down between these two, love really can conquer all.
But love can't conquer without some hard work, humility and change from those involved and in this case we all know the bulk of that work would have to fall on Teh. He is the one who struggles to stay true, even though I believe in his deepest heart of hearts, his affection for Oh is real and intense, he is easily swayed this way or that because he hasn't found his grounded center yet.
I am hoping/guessing that this last ep will show us a time gap forward during which Teh has done the work I mention above, that he will come to Oh and that Oh will accept him for the sake of the love he too still harbors for Teh. There a a few "howevers" here though. Will Oh, who even though I hated the orange hair and the grandma clothes is an absolutely loyal sweetheart, really not be in another relationship by then? The script has made it clear he is popular and desired. And if he is, I have difficulty believing he would just turn and leave that person for Teh, even if he does still love him.
Also however, I am highly suspicious that at the end of ep 4 Teh did NOT delete the social media photos, which means he would be considering NOT taking the supposedly dream job with the series. That whole random-agent-walks-up-after-an-obscure-student-directed-play-and-offers-you-a-nationally-televised-series-out-of-the-blue plot device, which is utter bullshit and unworthy of the rest of this show, rings false to me anyway. It's ridiculous. That a professional, big-budget TV show would risk everything on some nobody junior in college actor just because he is SO DAMN AWESOME...please. Shows like that want some experience, some seasoning. They want to see some work within the industry already having been done and Teh doesn't have that. Finally...let's face it, and just my opinion of course, but what was so great and compelling about Teh's performance we saw in Jai's play? He was dry, unanimated, etc. I even thought he seemed kind of bored. The lead-up to the big smooch with the female lead right at the end showed NONE of the passion he had displayed toward Jai when they kissed in the rehearsal room and you could even see them pause the kiss and wait for the blackout. Silliness.
Also, can we talk about the play's use of RED PLASTIC BEER-PARTY CUPS for the characters to supposedly be drinking the all-important plum wine out of? lol I laughed when I saw those. What was that about? And to some this may seem a small point but it's not to me: it was obvious from the way the characters, including Teh, were handling the cups, that there was NOTHING in them. Either you put something in them for the show or you work to make it seem there is something in them by the way you use them. Teh was tipping his this way and that in a manner that made it clear the cup held nothing but air. :)
And based on this lackluster performance by an unknown college kid, an agent walks up and hires him. Yes, she said there'd be an audition, but she also made it clear that was pretty much a formality and the part was his. lol
I believe Teh honestly loves Oh and can change. I KNOW Oh honestly loves Teh because of the outstanding acting of PP. At the end of the ep, when he was being comforted by his wonderful friends and told to forget Teh the jerk and after two weeks of crying he utterly collapsed into heaving, ugly-crying sobs once again, it was obvious that though he's been brave and done what had to be done regarding Teh, the vision of a future without Teh in it as his lover appears absolutely desolate and soul-crushing. This is the kind of love that can't be "gotten over." This is a painfully broken-hearted love that Oh will carry the rest of his life. I got dumped once by someone I lived and died for in my heart, because I was a mess at the time. He did the right thing, to save himself. That was nearly 40 years ago and if I think about it/him long enough even now, my chest grows heavy and my eyes get moist.
But that is NOT what I want for Oh and Teh. Dammit, I want them together and I believe it possible without it seeming ridiculous. Passage of time, Teh does the work, maybe leaves acting, I don't know but he GROWS. The he comes to Oh and there is a glorious scene/scenes of forgiveness and redemption that will rock our world.
I know many commenters want Teh crucified and tortured and left to live out his miserable life alone and in pain. Those commenters have issues with bitterness and vengefulness and holding a grudge and demanding perfection from others that they cannot offer themselves. Another case of self-righteous, black/white thinking in a world of grays. Oh is not that kind of person. If he believed Teh was ready to stand at his side for good and be dependable, he'd take him back in a heartbeat.
Unless Bas showed up to comfort him. Then all bets are off. :)
But I keep thinking back to the end of this ep. We did NOT see Teh delete the photos. We DID see him pull up to what I thought to be Oh's current apartment on the red motorcycle he is currently using. It seems unlikely he'd be riding the same cycle ten years later or that Oh would be in the same pad. This freaking wonderful show could go a hundred different ways and I'll be hanging on for the ride. If the ride takes me to Heartbreak City, so be it. I will not regret the journey.
The only thing Jai did to Teh was when he kiss him ''the rehearsal way''. But Teh did fall in love way before…
Your position on Teh seems very judgemental to me. I don't think you "choose" to fall in love, that is a matter of emotions and desire. But you can choose what to DO or NOT DO in response to your feelings. THAT is where Teh failed. He acted on them, because Jai encouraged it, and would have taken the physical intimacy all the way if he could have. I experienced intense physical/emotional attractions to two or three people during my seven-year relationship with a partner. I chose to not act on them, in fact I distanced myself because I also loved my partner and did not want to wreck what we had.
I don't even remember how I stumbled onto this today. But I gave it a watch and was pleasantly surprised by just about every aspect of it. Story, plot, acting for sure, technical stuff, all good. I was sorry to find only 4 episodes though at Pinoy Movies Hub online. Can anyone tell me if the other two ever got made?
The title might have been a mistake.. To me "Daddy Love" sounds like a porn video.
Kiko is beautiful/cute and Sir Mark is incredibly handsome. Both did well with the acting but I'm especially moved by how Kiko was portrayed. Having already been exposed to so much ugliness in his life and yet he still has an innocent, generous heart, as well as self-respect. From some angles his face was downright angelic/beautiful. I don't know the age of the actor and it doesn't really matter because to me Kiko looks about as much like he's 26 as I do, only in opposite directions times 3 in my case. I wish the script had given his age as 18/19, which is how old he looks, and it would have been a stronger challenge to societal norms about age-appropriateness in romantic relationships. To a 26 year-old a 40 year-old guy is not a "daddy." More like a substantially older brother.
Whatever their ages, the two together are a beautiful couple. I was grateful for the gratuitous butt shots of Sir Mark in the shower early on.
I would love to see the rest of this, I hope it got made and that I'll find it some day.
Haven't read all the comments or reviews yet, but I will. I stumbled across this flick just this afternoon. It is silly, ridiculous, somewhat stupid at times and absolutely wonderful.
Anyone who disses this movie for over-acting or story weaknesses or whatever, doesn't get it: I think those people are taking this flick way more seriously than it ever asked to be. It is a slapstick comedy with a great big heart and a kick-ass message. I LOVE the actor who played Ichijo, the famous movie actor. His comedic body-acting was hysterically funny. Our Manga-lover, his love-interest, is almost as good in a less flashy role, and they offset each other perfectly.
I laughed a lot and cried at the end. I don't ask a lot more than that from a comedy, or a any movie really. I don't care that its extremely low budget showed at times. A few belly laughs, lots of giggles and some tears at the end give this flick an 8.5 from me. ENJOY!
Jin still seem skitsh around Bomb, I can't see him jumping panties into bed with him. He just got comfortable…
This goes right to my most hated trope in the BL trope list: Tops and Bottoms. First of all, there are all kinds of sexual things two guys can do that do not involve anyone's butt. Handjobs, blowjobs, 69, frotting (where you just get naked and rub against each other until climaxing) are all fun and hot options. I only found BL about 17 months ago and this obsession with Top/Bottom is, to me,the most bizarre thing about it. MANY gay couples NEVER have butt sex. Some do it once in a while. Some do it almost every time. And a LOT of people switch back and forth between topping and bottoming. It's hot and it's fun!
People who are "traumatized" by bottoming either didn't do it correctly, lacked preparation, or had a very selfish and brutal sexual partner who cared only for their own pleasure.
I really dislike that BL culture teaches naive young people that there is ONE way to have gay sex, you do that or nothing, and that you are either always a bottom or always a top. It is ridiculous. It bears no resemblance to reality, and it also furthers the ideas that bottoming is "weak" or "womanly," and that bottoming is somehow taking the role of a woman in a straight sexual relationship, so that means it's automatically the submissive role. I would love to see a BL in which it is made clear that the couple switches back and forth in topping or bottoming for each other, and that they don't attach more power/dominance to one over the other.
Jin still seem skitsh around Bomb, I can't see him jumping panties into bed with him. He just got comfortable…
Again, guys that age are ready to go all the way all of the time, anyway, anyhow. And you're cuddling with a hot piece of meat like Bbomb all night and nothing happens. Nah. :D
I thought Thailand, Vietnam, etc. were pretty warm/hot year-round. Why am I always seeing these BL guys in sweaters, jackets and sweatshirts? And the 1980s wants the one-clipped side overalls bib-look back.
Little-known fact: 95% of Thais die by being run over by a truck. The other 5% die of fatal illnesses they contract…
No engineers, but just about every other BL cliche has already been checked off the list. Both leads are naturally hot, I agree, thank god. I HAVE to disagree with you about the hair up in a little pony tail thing. On the right guy it's another pants dropper for me. And the grandson is one of those guys.
Another breath of fresh air. These Isaan rutstic BLs on the rise, and they are consistently good so far. An original…
Are you from Northern Thailand? This show has some good qualities. An original plot is NOT one of them, as you know. We've nearly covered every cliche and trope and we've only seen one episode.
In my opinion, I think you need to look out again about Thai BL industry. Thai BL are kinda soft, tend to be teen…
I just don't think Bbomb and Jin act like boyfriends at all. They don't communicate and Bbomb is jealous as hell. I could do some research and prove you wrong about Thai BL being so "family-friendly" as you put it. I'm not implying they have to show the guys DOING it, but they could make it clear that they DID do it without getting graphic. By the way, aren't TharnType and Together With You both Thai BLs? Both were pretty explicit, as BLs go.
Yeah I'm still confused why the seniors were there but I think the scene just to point out how much Jin likes…
I agree, but these are very young and athletic young men with fully functional sex drives. At that age we are horny as hell 24/7. I would not be able to sleep in Bbomb's arms without getting a raging and constant boner that would insist on being satisfied. I think maybe this is an example of when the fact that many of these BL writers are women makes itself obvious. Generally speaking, women do not experience the sex drive in as intense and constant a state as do men, especially young men. So you have a female writer imposing a female idea of sexuality onto male characters, and it rings false to me.
After reading comments, I guess I'm in the minority. I think this series is confusing, silly, all over the map and hyper-unrealistic in many respects. Has to have been written by a woman who has no understanding of the young male sex drive. I see no evidence that Jin and Bbomb have boinked even once, despite sleeping together. Stupid.
This series is a triumph of quiet competence. Nothing flashy, just populated with cute and interesting characters.…
You don't think Bbomb has become a stalker/creepy/suspicious/hyper-possessive BF the minute Jin said they were dating. I'ts eerie the way he was staring at Mark. And he even got pissed at Jin because he accepted a drink from sweet Som Som. I say dump him now before there is a murder-suicide.
I think they change Jin character, for me, he doesn't look like playboy compare to Jack. This series become better…
I never bought Jin as a playboy, ever, from the beginning. They SAY he is/was one, but I never saw it in the character at all. He's just a sweet, goofy doofus.
But love can't conquer without some hard work, humility and change from those involved and in this case we all know the bulk of that work would have to fall on Teh. He is the one who struggles to stay true, even though I believe in his deepest heart of hearts, his affection for Oh is real and intense, he is easily swayed this way or that because he hasn't found his grounded center yet.
I am hoping/guessing that this last ep will show us a time gap forward during which Teh has done the work I mention above, that he will come to Oh and that Oh will accept him for the sake of the love he too still harbors for Teh. There a a few "howevers" here though. Will Oh, who even though I hated the orange hair and the grandma clothes is an absolutely loyal sweetheart, really not be in another relationship by then? The script has made it clear he is popular and desired. And if he is, I have difficulty believing he would just turn and leave that person for Teh, even if he does still love him.
Also however, I am highly suspicious that at the end of ep 4 Teh did NOT delete the social media photos, which means he would be considering NOT taking the supposedly dream job with the series. That whole random-agent-walks-up-after-an-obscure-student-directed-play-and-offers-you-a-nationally-televised-series-out-of-the-blue plot device, which is utter bullshit and unworthy of the rest of this show, rings false to me anyway. It's ridiculous. That a professional, big-budget TV show would risk everything on some nobody junior in college actor just because he is SO DAMN AWESOME...please. Shows like that want some experience, some seasoning. They want to see some work within the industry already having been done and Teh doesn't have that. Finally...let's face it, and just my opinion of course, but what was so great and compelling about Teh's performance we saw in Jai's play? He was dry, unanimated, etc. I even thought he seemed kind of bored. The lead-up to the big smooch with the female lead right at the end showed NONE of the passion he had displayed toward Jai when they kissed in the rehearsal room and you could even see them pause the kiss and wait for the blackout. Silliness.
Also, can we talk about the play's use of RED PLASTIC BEER-PARTY CUPS for the characters to supposedly be drinking the all-important plum wine out of? lol I laughed when I saw those. What was that about? And to some this may seem a small point but it's not to me: it was obvious from the way the characters, including Teh, were handling the cups, that there was NOTHING in them. Either you put something in them for the show or you work to make it seem there is something in them by the way you use them. Teh was tipping his this way and that in a manner that made it clear the cup held nothing but air. :)
And based on this lackluster performance by an unknown college kid, an agent walks up and hires him. Yes, she said there'd be an audition, but she also made it clear that was pretty much a formality and the part was his. lol
I believe Teh honestly loves Oh and can change. I KNOW Oh honestly loves Teh because of the outstanding acting of PP. At the end of the ep, when he was being comforted by his wonderful friends and told to forget Teh the jerk and after two weeks of crying he utterly collapsed into heaving, ugly-crying sobs once again, it was obvious that though he's been brave and done what had to be done regarding Teh, the vision of a future without Teh in it as his lover appears absolutely desolate and soul-crushing. This is the kind of love that can't be "gotten over." This is a painfully broken-hearted love that Oh will carry the rest of his life. I got dumped once by someone I lived and died for in my heart, because I was a mess at the time. He did the right thing, to save himself. That was nearly 40 years ago and if I think about it/him long enough even now, my chest grows heavy and my eyes get moist.
But that is NOT what I want for Oh and Teh. Dammit, I want them together and I believe it possible without it seeming ridiculous. Passage of time, Teh does the work, maybe leaves acting, I don't know but he GROWS. The he comes to Oh and there is a glorious scene/scenes of forgiveness and redemption that will rock our world.
I know many commenters want Teh crucified and tortured and left to live out his miserable life alone and in pain. Those commenters have issues with bitterness and vengefulness and holding a grudge and demanding perfection from others that they cannot offer themselves. Another case of self-righteous, black/white thinking in a world of grays. Oh is not that kind of person. If he believed Teh was ready to stand at his side for good and be dependable, he'd take him back in a heartbeat.
Unless Bas showed up to comfort him. Then all bets are off. :)
But I keep thinking back to the end of this ep. We did NOT see Teh delete the photos. We DID see him pull up to what I thought to be Oh's current apartment on the red motorcycle he is currently using. It seems unlikely he'd be riding the same cycle ten years later or that Oh would be in the same pad. This freaking wonderful show could go a hundred different ways and I'll be hanging on for the ride. If the ride takes me to Heartbreak City, so be it. I will not regret the journey.
The title might have been a mistake.. To me "Daddy Love" sounds like a porn video.
Kiko is beautiful/cute and Sir Mark is incredibly handsome. Both did well with the acting but I'm especially moved by how Kiko was portrayed. Having already been exposed to so much ugliness in his life and yet he still has an innocent, generous heart, as well as self-respect. From some angles his face was downright angelic/beautiful. I don't know the age of the actor and it doesn't really matter because to me Kiko looks about as much like he's 26 as I do, only in opposite directions times 3 in my case. I wish the script had given his age as 18/19, which is how old he looks, and it would have been a stronger challenge to societal norms about age-appropriateness in romantic relationships. To a 26 year-old a 40 year-old guy is not a "daddy." More like a substantially older brother.
Whatever their ages, the two together are a beautiful couple. I was grateful for the gratuitous butt shots of Sir Mark in the shower early on.
I would love to see the rest of this, I hope it got made and that I'll find it some day.
Anyone who disses this movie for over-acting or story weaknesses or whatever, doesn't get it: I think those people are taking this flick way more seriously than it ever asked to be. It is a slapstick comedy with a great big heart and a kick-ass message. I LOVE the actor who played Ichijo, the famous movie actor. His comedic body-acting was hysterically funny. Our Manga-lover, his love-interest, is almost as good in a less flashy role, and they offset each other perfectly.
I laughed a lot and cried at the end. I don't ask a lot more than that from a comedy, or a any movie really. I don't care that its extremely low budget showed at times. A few belly laughs, lots of giggles and some tears at the end give this flick an 8.5 from me. ENJOY!
People who are "traumatized" by bottoming either didn't do it correctly, lacked preparation, or had a very selfish and brutal sexual partner who cared only for their own pleasure.
I really dislike that BL culture teaches naive young people that there is ONE way to have gay sex, you do that or nothing, and that you are either always a bottom or always a top. It is ridiculous. It bears no resemblance to reality, and it also furthers the ideas that bottoming is "weak" or "womanly," and that bottoming is somehow taking the role of a woman in a straight sexual relationship, so that means it's automatically the submissive role. I would love to see a BL in which it is made clear that the couple switches back and forth in topping or bottoming for each other, and that they don't attach more power/dominance to one over the other.
Nice to see someone other than one of the leads get killed by a car.