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Why have you already assumed that his suicidal ideation is not authentic as opposed to manipulative? Or perhaps he will be caught mentally in a space between wanting to do it and not wanting to do it. What if he feels both ways at the same time? Doesn't it take some of the fun out of watching the drama if you decide ahead of time what characters' motives are?

I think you're implying that men all think the same way about issues of sexual ambiguity. It's sexist as hell, of course, but you can believe what you want. I, on the other hand, am well aware there are a wide range of female perspectives on every topic under the sun.

Could you help me out with this as I've seen it in a couple of other comments? What benefit is there to Youngjie in telling his dad that he seduced his brother at all? How does the exposure of the sexual incident help the dad accept either one of their sexualities? I've been under the impression from comments that you do not believe this incident was "rape" but you occasionally call it "rape.?

"I'm procrastinating instead of doing something I need to do, and I blame you." lol Happy to assume the guilt you would otherwise have to bear yourself, my friend. :D

But the script WANTS the audience to feel uncomfortable at this point. If one is not feeling a strong emotion in one direction, then they will feel no impact when and if the script takes them in the opposite direction and they feel positive vibes. Without darkness there can be no light. Without the night there is no joy at sunrise. It's pretty basic.

There are 14 more episodes to go.

Do you even pay attention: They are STEP brothers and ten years apart in age.

It is the reaction of a man who willingly did something he now regrets. Happens millions of times every day.

People are not nearly as stupid and susceptible to suggestion as you claim. Artists are under no obligation to include only plot elements in their shows that please a narrow segment of the audience. In this case, you already know where much of the plot is headed and if you've seen the trailer for the next episode there's more on the way. You've been warned.

But what's most telling is that so many of these commenters who claim to be triggered right and left by BL tropes continue to watch BLs, even after a show has presented a plot element that supposedly deeply offends and outrages them. Overall, the BL audience loves these racy, edgy sex plot elements which is why production companies keep including them in their projects.

You don't like the material, you think it's wrong, you have been "iffy" for six episodes and you are completely "turned off" but you're going to keep watching. Sounds to me like you are enjoying this series, all told, otherwise why would you watch? We can still enjoy films and series that make us uncomfortable. The horror genre is based on making us severely uncomfortable, for instance.

You missed the main point of this comment entirely.

This is beautifully stated. Thanks for sharing this perspective, with which I completely agree, without the snark I find it so difficult to prevent exiting my fingers into the keyboard when I comment on this matter. :D

So drop the show. Nothing wrong with that.

Don't worry, dear. It's all good. When I take breaks from the studio, I often check these comments and respond. Besides, I'm of the opinion that reading, thinking and writing are constructive pursuits. Every time we write something the hope is that we get a little bit better at expressing ourselves in writing in general and in thinking things through. So...worry if you wish, but it's really not necessary. :)

Oh, and what sexist assumptions are you implying with your last comment? I'd like to know.

That passage was from some web site on sexual health, not a quote from a definition of a law.

"screaming like a banshee..." Yes, passionate disagreement with your puritanical, comically professorial epistles on the subject are definitely "screaming like a banshee." lol I'd expect you to do better than that cliche term too, but alas, you didn't.

I don't care how you perceive my style of commenting. I don't care what you expect from me. It's irrelevant. I think your comments are faux-intellectual treatises heavy on arrogance and light on common sense. But I doubt you care what I think either.

Admittedly, my style is to call bullshit when I see it and I am more emotional about doing so. I enjoy "screaming like a banshee" that the RAPE emperor has no clothes, while you enjoy parading through comments imagining yourself in a floor-length velvet robe with ermine trim, wearing your gold and diamond tiarra with a big PC emblem in blue sapphires at the top. It is gorgeous, but it's only in your head.

That IS sad. I despised the Catholic Church long before the explosion of sexual abuse cases and their coverup made it clear what a monstrous organization it is. That said, I am totally with you on the idea that something like that does NOT have to be the end of the world, super-traumatizing, my life is over kind of experience it's currently made out out to be. Of course the priests should be criminally prosecuted but to me the worst of the abuse is the over-arching mind-fuck of the puritanical sexual teachings of the CC being co-mingled with sexual experiences with the very person who teaches you that what is happening between you two is a mortal sin. Jesus!

I worry that many young people are extra-shamed by the hysterical reaction to the abuse. What if they don't feel as traumatized or upset about it as their parents and culture demand they be? It's like they're double-fucked then. I'm not in any way minimizing CC sexual abuse. I just want the reaction and the treatment arranged for each kid to specifically fit that individual case and the victim's feelings about it.

I was (legally) "sexually-assaulted" by a doctor during a sports physical when I was 13 years old. It was intense and mysterious and hot and overall I liked it. I never thought much about it at all after it happened and certainly felt no guilt. It's more likely I wished there would be such physicals more often than once a year. Then later the doctor was caught in some kind of sting operation and things went public. My mom asked if he did anything to me. I lied and said no, of course as I saw no point in enabling the overreaction that would come if I told the truth. It's amazing the degree to which many children go to "take care of" their parents and families in such situations. I might have told her the truth if I'd known she wouldn't freak out about it.

My god, where have you been? I'm not going to rehash my comments. Read through the thread and all the arguments from other sides, if you're interested. But judging from your all-caps yelling you're not exactly here to listen to opposing points of view.

So you're OK with rape scenes as part of a plot if the "rapist" is punished as part of the plot? But rapists and robbers and murderers and embezzlers get away with their acts all the time IRL. What if the fact that they "get away with it" is part of the story? There is a great old murder/adultery/thriller from the late 70s in which a woman deliberately seduced a man and carried on a torrid affair with him for months for the sole purpose of manipulating him into illegally acquiring a vast sum of money and killing her husband. At the end of the movie, he was rotting in jail having been convicted and sentenced while she sat on a tropical beach in a foreign country sipping cocktails. She literally got away with murder and embezzlement! Is it your position that therefore this movie "teaches" people that murder and theft and framing a lover are things that they SHOULD DO? Or is it a wild and crazy, and very well-made piece of art and entertainment that stands simply for what it is..a very torrid and dramatic slice of life?

I am totally OK with fictional stories in whatever medium that include rape as part of the story. I don't think the show-makers are under any moral obligation to make sure the "rapist" ends up in prison as a result. A sexual offender getting off unpunished, which I've seen happen in a number of films now that I think about it, can be an even STRONGER warning of caution to others than would be a pat ending in which the perp is predictably caught and punished.

How will letting the dad know that they had consensual sex, or any other sex, work out as a positive thing? The dad's going to approve the relationship because they had sex? What? He's going to be OK with it if he knows YJ raped Xingsi? WTF?