First, it's heartening to see that the "Recommendations" section (at least as I write this) has three recommendations that truly are thematically and tonally in synch with this magnificent series. Too often, that section gets filled by people who just want to promote their favorite series.
Second, I'm going to say that the series ending was very satisfying to me. I didn't want the three to be reunited like the old days, because the old days were ruined by secrets and betrayal. What they (and we) thought they had was an illusion--a farce, even.
Eiji was unfaithful to Makio both by secretly having a few months' worth of extra rounds with Mieko to get her pregnant, and by letting his despicable father start the fire that eventually consumed their relationship. (When he went to work for his dad despite having dreams of his own, that foreshadowed his other bad decisions.) He made his dumb choices and by the end of the series I really didn't like him very much, or give a rat's ass about him weeping and feeling sorry for himself.
I was so glad that the plot didn't go in the direction that I'm sure many BL stans wanted, which was for the two guys to get back together. Asato is a far better match for Makio. Eiji is so ineffectual that I can't even imagine him confronting someone over the proper way to throw out the trash, as Asato did with Makio. Asato is more mature than Eiji and deals with the issues in his life head-on, one example being the reconciliation scene with his grandfather.
Mieko is no bargain either. The final shot of the series, with Makio calmly saying goodbye to her to (presumably) go back to Asato, is as it should be. Out of the three of them, Makio is the big winner. He saw what his boyfriend and best friend were serving up to him and he wanted no part of it, and he's smart enough not to get entangled again.
The low rating on here is testimony to the tunnel vision of people who refuse to believe that real-life relationships can, indeed, run their course, and that it's sometimes essential for two lovers to break up in order for one or both of them to reclaim their lives.
First loves can turn out like bad tattoos -- you're happy with them for a while but over time your outlook and values change, and suddenly what seemed like a perfect choice back in the day now looks bizarre or embarrassing. Personally, I wouldn't want to be forced to live with many of the decisions I made as a teenager or in my early 20's, including the first guy I dated, who I was with for three years. When I talk to him these days I'm struck by how unsuitable we'd be for each other now.
As a final note I'll add that it's funny to me when a movie or series uses a baby or young child in a pivotal role like they did here. I'm not a "baby" person in the least. So for me that would have been another reason to high-tail it out of there once baby-making became the prime focus in order to appease the most horrible character in the entire series.
I have just finished episode 5 and we'll need a day or two break from all the endless dialogue before coming back.…
A friend of mine has the opinion that in adult relationships we reenact the dramas (traumas?) of our childhood over and over, but only symbolically, in an effort to resolve the pain from the past. But, nothing ever gets resolved because the reenactments are just that: symbolic.
So, people who seem to always date a certain kind of loser will keep dating that kind of loser, and feel out of place with anyone who treats them well because those people can't give them that chance to restage the drama.
Mol's relationship with Siam was her trying to get him to fill a need in her that he was incapable of filling. And of course, like you say, she's now repeating the cycle with In and her son.
I liked the episode so much I watched it twice. The family scene and the banter amongst the friends were both…
It's weird. For some reason I see all that as them having fun with it, like they're enjoying themselves and rolling their eyes just as much as we are (or I am), and that they primary goal is to make us laugh.
Nhai is a ditz for sure. That whole "yellow ducky" bit and how his friends kept razzing him about it, him admitting he's "low tech", and (my favorite) how he likes the girl because she has arm hair - all of it very silly but it made me laugh. The actor has pretty good comic timing, too, like when he told his friends he was demoting them to standard friends instead of best friends.
That said, I did find the rich kid stuff a little tiresome. When they introduce that factor it makes it seem possible that Nhai would like Ai for his money and his BMW. Why not remove that as a factor.
I enjoyed the first episode. The poor quality of the English subtitles may be the main reason why the overall…
I liked the episode so much I watched it twice. The family scene and the banter amongst the friends were both wonderful for their own reasons. I agree that if the subs were better we'd probably see less disappointment on here.
It's too late to avoid audience abuse. A whole episode without Payoo/Rain is Physical Therapy-level abuse, and…
I'm hoping (I know -- silly me haha) that they use Rain's dramatic return as the undoing of the evil doctor lady. Maybe by him entering the boardroom when she still has no idea if he has been found.
He would get more screen time but the question of how much of that will be with Payu is still up for grabs.
Haha well I have to admit I loved the first episode. It was completely bonkers, yes, but I was entertained the…
During the closing credit montage I spotted a moment where Games (who in "Second Chance" played Near, Arthur's boyfriend) is shown with Nice, who played Arthur ... and they're smiling.
Near was Arthur's ex-boyfriend in "Second Chance", and Arthur relentlessly bullied him. Arthur's emotional breakdown in the final episode was one of the most memorable things about the series, so I'll be glad to see them being happy together.
Haha well I have to admit I loved the first episode. It was completely bonkers, yes, but I was entertained the whole time. (Ai liking a girl because she has arm hair -- it's so random and dumb but I'm sorry, I laughed!)
I wasn't expecting to see the refugees from Nittiman, Second Chance, and Love Area -- especially not the bully "Arthur" from Second Chance in a comedic role. They play off each other really well. I do wonder about that class they attend, though. They just sit there and talk like they're in the student lounge, so I guess the professor merely shows up to take attendance then leaves.
It was cool to see that Ai has two dads, too.
The subs were bad (maybe a Google Translate job?) but reading past the grammatical mistakes I was able to follow the conversations well enough, and most of the jokes landed the way they should.
I knew nothing about this going in and in fact forgot that it's a prequel to Tonhon Chonlatee until I came here afterward and saw the other comments. I guess the purists will be clutching their pearls but I hated to see it end.
Given the shenanigans and buildup in Episode 13, if they don't bring Rain back from the dead it will be a severe case of audience abuse. Which as I think about it, I wouldn't put that past this crew hahahaha.
That corporation's board of directors are a bunch of chuckleheads.
Santi the butler is a boss, though!
With both Khim and Payu now at the villa, I predict that Rain will make his reappearance there, perhaps after he has been in the secret room for a few days recovering from his injuries. (But I question that the villa is the safest place for Khim to be. I'd think almost anywhere in Thailand would be better than where the evil doctor lady last sent the family off to their doom.)
I thought Sun's embrace of Khim as Khim wept could have been a little more heartfelt. He made it look like an obligation.
And speaking of heartfelt, I can't believe they wasted a side story on yet another one of Sun's heart flutters, or whatever it is. Poor Fluke, having to act out that nonsense.
So we finally see Mol's true colors. According to her, Wang is in love with In not because of In himself, but because Wang lacks love and attention and needs a father figure. Wang's duty is to stay with her.
When she asked In to help her make Wang "normal" again it was the last straw. What's normal about a mother not wanting her son to have his own life?
When Wang said "what about me?" there was never a truer statement.
I hope In won't repeat his mistake with Siam and try to steer Wang in a direction that Wang really doesn't want. That was Siam's undoing.
Of course, there's still that question of whether In feels the same way about Wang. If he does, I hope he won't wimp out again and let that horrible woman manipulate him into having her way.
The two leads are obnoxious and conceited. As I said after the first episode, it's good that they'll prey on each other instead of the rest of the student population. I don't give a rat's ass about their "relationship" and will keep watching only for the side couples.
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Second, I'm going to say that the series ending was very satisfying to me. I didn't want the three to be reunited like the old days, because the old days were ruined by secrets and betrayal. What they (and we) thought they had was an illusion--a farce, even.
Eiji was unfaithful to Makio both by secretly having a few months' worth of extra rounds with Mieko to get her pregnant, and by letting his despicable father start the fire that eventually consumed their relationship. (When he went to work for his dad despite having dreams of his own, that foreshadowed his other bad decisions.) He made his dumb choices and by the end of the series I really didn't like him very much, or give a rat's ass about him weeping and feeling sorry for himself.
I was so glad that the plot didn't go in the direction that I'm sure many BL stans wanted, which was for the two guys to get back together. Asato is a far better match for Makio. Eiji is so ineffectual that I can't even imagine him confronting someone over the proper way to throw out the trash, as Asato did with Makio. Asato is more mature than Eiji and deals with the issues in his life head-on, one example being the reconciliation scene with his grandfather.
Mieko is no bargain either. The final shot of the series, with Makio calmly saying goodbye to her to (presumably) go back to Asato, is as it should be. Out of the three of them, Makio is the big winner. He saw what his boyfriend and best friend were serving up to him and he wanted no part of it, and he's smart enough not to get entangled again.
The low rating on here is testimony to the tunnel vision of people who refuse to believe that real-life relationships can, indeed, run their course, and that it's sometimes essential for two lovers to break up in order for one or both of them to reclaim their lives.
First loves can turn out like bad tattoos -- you're happy with them for a while but over time your outlook and values change, and suddenly what seemed like a perfect choice back in the day now looks bizarre or embarrassing. Personally, I wouldn't want to be forced to live with many of the decisions I made as a teenager or in my early 20's, including the first guy I dated, who I was with for three years. When I talk to him these days I'm struck by how unsuitable we'd be for each other now.
As a final note I'll add that it's funny to me when a movie or series uses a baby or young child in a pivotal role like they did here. I'm not a "baby" person in the least. So for me that would have been another reason to high-tail it out of there once baby-making became the prime focus in order to appease the most horrible character in the entire series.
10/10 for this masterpiece.
So, people who seem to always date a certain kind of loser will keep dating that kind of loser, and feel out of place with anyone who treats them well because those people can't give them that chance to restage the drama.
Mol's relationship with Siam was her trying to get him to fill a need in her that he was incapable of filling. And of course, like you say, she's now repeating the cycle with In and her son.
Nhai is a ditz for sure. That whole "yellow ducky" bit and how his friends kept razzing him about it, him admitting he's "low tech", and (my favorite) how he likes the girl because she has arm hair - all of it very silly but it made me laugh. The actor has pretty good comic timing, too, like when he told his friends he was demoting them to standard friends instead of best friends.
That said, I did find the rich kid stuff a little tiresome. When they introduce that factor it makes it seem possible that Nhai would like Ai for his money and his BMW. Why not remove that as a factor.
Look on the bright side, everyone -- at least they're done with the orchestra scenes.
He would get more screen time but the question of how much of that will be with Payu is still up for grabs.
Near was Arthur's ex-boyfriend in "Second Chance", and Arthur relentlessly bullied him. Arthur's emotional breakdown in the final episode was one of the most memorable things about the series, so I'll be glad to see them being happy together.
I wasn't expecting to see the refugees from Nittiman, Second Chance, and Love Area -- especially not the bully "Arthur" from Second Chance in a comedic role. They play off each other really well. I do wonder about that class they attend, though. They just sit there and talk like they're in the student lounge, so I guess the professor merely shows up to take attendance then leaves.
It was cool to see that Ai has two dads, too.
The subs were bad (maybe a Google Translate job?) but reading past the grammatical mistakes I was able to follow the conversations well enough, and most of the jokes landed the way they should.
I knew nothing about this going in and in fact forgot that it's a prequel to Tonhon Chonlatee until I came here afterward and saw the other comments. I guess the purists will be clutching their pearls but I hated to see it end.
That corporation's board of directors are a bunch of chuckleheads.
Santi the butler is a boss, though!
With both Khim and Payu now at the villa, I predict that Rain will make his reappearance there, perhaps after he has been in the secret room for a few days recovering from his injuries. (But I question that the villa is the safest place for Khim to be. I'd think almost anywhere in Thailand would be better than where the evil doctor lady last sent the family off to their doom.)
I thought Sun's embrace of Khim as Khim wept could have been a little more heartfelt. He made it look like an obligation.
And speaking of heartfelt, I can't believe they wasted a side story on yet another one of Sun's heart flutters, or whatever it is. Poor Fluke, having to act out that nonsense.
When she asked In to help her make Wang "normal" again it was the last straw. What's normal about a mother not wanting her son to have his own life?
When Wang said "what about me?" there was never a truer statement.
I hope In won't repeat his mistake with Siam and try to steer Wang in a direction that Wang really doesn't want. That was Siam's undoing.
Of course, there's still that question of whether In feels the same way about Wang. If he does, I hope he won't wimp out again and let that horrible woman manipulate him into having her way.