Retroactively making the girlfriend a cheater isn't going to make cheating Vee look any better. Sorry writer,…
We're all imperfect people and make mistakes. The hope is that we learn from the mistakes and never repeat them.
Vee cheated on Ploy with Mark, and the night with Mark clearly awakened something in Vee that went beyond simply getting his rocks off. He now finds himself drawn to Mark obsessively, and what I like seeing is that Vee is trying to control that attraction despite the way it burns in him. He compensates by inventing excuses to play the "senior" card and force Mark to spend time with him, flirting from a comfortable distance, but its clear he's struggling. This is part of what makes the series so compelling for me.
Vee and Mark's one-night stand is different from what Ploy is doing, which is maintaining a relationship with a secret lover. Ploy lies over and over. Her biggest regret will be that she eventually gets caught, whereas I think Vee already has enough regret from his drunken one-time dalliance that he's trying to behave himself.
As an aside, I think Vee was attracted to Mark for a long time and in the first episode was jealous that Mark was obsessed with Bar instead of him. That probably contributed to Vee's willingness to sleep with Mark when Mark mistook him for Bar (as unrealistic as that scenario is.)
After reading a couple of references to the phone call from Vee to Mark that has been left out of this version (the "iconic" phone call) I went back to the original version of the series to see what that was. I'll log it here in case anyone else is wondering about it.
After Vee tests Mark to make sure Mark doesn't still have feelings for Bar, Mark leaves in a huff, saying he's going back home to sleep. But he ends up at a bar with his friends, one of whom ends up tagging Mark in a Facebook post.
Just seconds after the post goes up Mark gets a call from Vee.
VEE: You told me you were going back to sleep but I saw some guy checked in at the bar and tagged you.
MARK: What's wrong with you? I'm going to sleep now.
VEE: Bullshit. Who are you sleeping with?
MARK: It's my right to sleep with whoever I want. Why do you care?
VEE: Why not?
MARK: Let me tell you this. I never bothered you since the beginning. I try to stay away from you. It's you who keep bothering me. Do you have a lot of free time? If you're so free then you should take care of your wife.
VEE: The person that I'm talking to right now isn't my wife?
That's where the episode ends.
It's a classic moment to be sure. I hope they'll still work it into the new version somewhere, maybe after Vee goes back to Ploy and then again tries to rekindle with Mark.
I'm by far impressed by this version of Love Mechanics. I remember seeing the En of Love version, and I still…
"His denial of the cheating goes hand in hand with the fact he can't admit to himself that he likes Mark, because Ploy was/is in the picture."
Yes! Even his constant badgering of Mark at the very beginning, demanding that he stay away from Bar, was another instance of Vee suppressing his attraction to Mark. He was feeling more jealous than righteous.
Thank you for this reminder. I'm attracted to black holes and rabbit holes, so try to stay off reddit, but I've…
I guess telling the people who disagree with you that it's because they don't pay attention or have your gift of insight isn't an attack ... it's just stating facts lol.
Also this cs is not it, if some of you want to also read positive opinions reviews and stuff from people who paid…
LOL .. so I guess if I "paid attention" and knew how to "understand" this masterwork I'd realize how great it is.
When you start telling people you disagree with that they're not smart enough or insightful enough instead of simply making your own points in rebuttal, you have lost the argument.
Well at this point this is just mysery porn. They are just using all the ammunition they have to create implausible…
Yes! This was my reaction from the first episode. The whole setup reeked of phoniness. This is not a "profound" story. It's arbitrary garbage angst dressed up in the hope that it looks deep, with no real connection to the first season.
The director should have stuck to romantic comedy. She must have been reading her own notices and figured if everybody says she's a genius then it must be true. She took all this budget and made a mess of it, plus ruined a perfectly good Season One for all of us who would occasionally enjoy rewatching.
Oh my god, I'm blown away. Yin's acting is superb! He totally nailed his "big scene" at the end -- I was so moved! -- and Vee's anniversary moment with Ploy was just right -- exactly how I think it would be when trying to process so many revelations along with the denial that any of it is happening.
So far, War's performance has been stuck in "suppressed emotion" mode. Given the ups and downs of this story I expect he'll have some dramatic moments of his own.
A lot of credit goes to the screenwriter and director. They understand how people behave and think, and didn't fall back on stereotypical ways of treating the big turning points in the episode.
On the downside, I do wish that Mark had comforted Vee with a hug first. Going for the kiss right away seemed a little opportunistic. But with the way Vee has been chasing Mark relentlessly, only to be rebuffed time and again, maybe Mark's kiss was the only reassurance that would matter.
This is possibly the most boring and pointless BL I've seen - zero originality, and we followed a tedious story,…
Kaneda's character really grated on me this episode.
Honestly, what is it that Yanase is supposed to be so attracted to? Their maturity levels are so different it makes him seem like a bit of a creeper to be pursuing someone with the EQ of a 13yo.
To me the scene where Vee apologizes to Mark in the locker room is so cute. The way Vee says "Sorry" repeatedly and ever more quietly, and eventually whispers it into Mark's ear, and the sheepish look on Vee's face as he seems to realize that Mark truly has him whipped.
In that scene it seemed Mark was also going to apologize to Vee for saying that he hates him, but alas that other kid had to interrupt. It would have been a sweet moment.
Also, Yin's acting in the scene where Vee is rescuing Mark from the knife-wielding mental patient was really intense. Even though I knew it was a "play within a play" it really got to me! He's been getting the right training as an actor and I have to say he's growing ever more handsome too. ^_^
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Vee cheated on Ploy with Mark, and the night with Mark clearly awakened something in Vee that went beyond simply getting his rocks off. He now finds himself drawn to Mark obsessively, and what I like seeing is that Vee is trying to control that attraction despite the way it burns in him. He compensates by inventing excuses to play the "senior" card and force Mark to spend time with him, flirting from a comfortable distance, but its clear he's struggling. This is part of what makes the series so compelling for me.
Vee and Mark's one-night stand is different from what Ploy is doing, which is maintaining a relationship with a secret lover. Ploy lies over and over. Her biggest regret will be that she eventually gets caught, whereas I think Vee already has enough regret from his drunken one-time dalliance that he's trying to behave himself.
As an aside, I think Vee was attracted to Mark for a long time and in the first episode was jealous that Mark was obsessed with Bar instead of him. That probably contributed to Vee's willingness to sleep with Mark when Mark mistook him for Bar (as unrealistic as that scenario is.)
After Vee tests Mark to make sure Mark doesn't still have feelings for Bar, Mark leaves in a huff, saying he's going back home to sleep. But he ends up at a bar with his friends, one of whom ends up tagging Mark in a Facebook post.
Just seconds after the post goes up Mark gets a call from Vee.
VEE: You told me you were going back to sleep but I saw some guy checked in at the bar and tagged you.
MARK: What's wrong with you? I'm going to sleep now.
VEE: Bullshit. Who are you sleeping with?
MARK: It's my right to sleep with whoever I want. Why do you care?
VEE: Why not?
MARK: Let me tell you this. I never bothered you since the beginning. I try to stay away from you. It's you who keep bothering me. Do you have a lot of free time? If you're so free then you should take care of your wife.
VEE: The person that I'm talking to right now isn't my wife?
That's where the episode ends.
It's a classic moment to be sure. I hope they'll still work it into the new version somewhere, maybe after Vee goes back to Ploy and then again tries to rekindle with Mark.
Yes! Even his constant badgering of Mark at the very beginning, demanding that he stay away from Bar, was another instance of Vee suppressing his attraction to Mark. He was feeling more jealous than righteous.
When you start telling people you disagree with that they're not smart enough or insightful enough instead of simply making your own points in rebuttal, you have lost the argument.
The director should have stuck to romantic comedy. She must have been reading her own notices and figured if everybody says she's a genius then it must be true. She took all this budget and made a mess of it, plus ruined a perfectly good Season One for all of us who would occasionally enjoy rewatching.
So far, War's performance has been stuck in "suppressed emotion" mode. Given the ups and downs of this story I expect he'll have some dramatic moments of his own.
A lot of credit goes to the screenwriter and director. They understand how people behave and think, and didn't fall back on stereotypical ways of treating the big turning points in the episode.
On the downside, I do wish that Mark had comforted Vee with a hug first. Going for the kiss right away seemed a little opportunistic. But with the way Vee has been chasing Mark relentlessly, only to be rebuffed time and again, maybe Mark's kiss was the only reassurance that would matter.
Honestly, what is it that Yanase is supposed to be so attracted to? Their maturity levels are so different it makes him seem like a bit of a creeper to be pursuing someone with the EQ of a 13yo.
You can have your sex scenes from "Cutie Pie" and "Tharntype", because that one glimpse of Togawa on fire is hotter than anything in those two series.
In that scene it seemed Mark was also going to apologize to Vee for saying that he hates him, but alas that other kid had to interrupt. It would have been a sweet moment.
Also, Yin's acting in the scene where Vee is rescuing Mark from the knife-wielding mental patient was really intense. Even though I knew it was a "play within a play" it really got to me! He's been getting the right training as an actor and I have to say he's growing ever more handsome too. ^_^