I found I couldn't get into higher profile series like "What Zabb Man!" and "La Cuisine" but this one makes me laugh and smile. It has my two favorite tropes--enemies to lovers and accidentally in love--and along with "Sky in Your Heart" brings back the goofy fun that I had when I first discovered BL.
So far, no evil characters either, although there's a couple of intersecting love triangles in the making, along with an unrequited love that I hope will end up being requited. And it's great to see an established m/m couple in the mix. There might be some strife on the horizon for them, but so far it doesn't seem it will be related to a rival suddenly appearing to threaten their seven-year relationship. If their storyline keeps to that then it will present a more realistic dynamic for a long term relationship than the disappointing (so far) "To My Star 2".
I’m not making a big deal about it since I enjoyed this drama a lot. but it’s funny that for a series where the title seems to almost guarantee that the MLs will kiss, it sure didn’t deliver. ^_^
hey i started the series on bilibili but there are only 20 episodes to watch, do you know where to watch the last…
In case you still need the answer:
On the right hand side of the viewing area for the episodes, the first 20 episodes are in a stack. At the top of that stack there’s a white oval with “1 - 20” in it. To the right of that oval you can see “21 - 24”. You have to click on that. It will then turn into a white oval and the last four episodes will be there for you to click on.
The young Gong Chan looks older than the present day Gong Chan and the two actors don’t resemble each other very much, so for a long time I was very confused by the flashbacks. Once it became clear what the back story is, though, I thought maybe they’d explain the difference in appearance by saying that Gong Chan had had cosmetic surgery.
To be fair, though, Hwang In Youp has a unique look that must have made it hard to cast the younger version of him.
I'm in the same boat. A lot of people here seem to love the angst, but BL is light fantasy to relieve the soul-crushing…
Right. Season One was a romantic comedy. Season Two is starting out as a melodrama.
The other thing I hate is that a Season Two that starts like this retroactively negates the happy ending of its Season One.
After a successful series there’s always a chorus of people crying out for a Season Two, but PAY ATTENTION, PEOPLE. Season Two of anything is almost always about a breakup, and thus ends up making Season One look like a lie.
I miss the breezy tone of the first season as well as the humor and wit. For this reason the first two episodes of this season were disappointing, bleak, and draggy for me, but I’ll keep watching.
I hope the explanation for Ji Woo’s shocking behavior (leaving Seo Joon with just a note, and on his birthday no less) is solid. His crankiness in Season One was funny because he was completely unimpressed with someone who was this generic celebrity. In this season he’s pulling the same schtick but now he’s hurting a specific someone who only happens to be a celebrity, and has become a real person to him and to us. That’s entirely different. Ji Woo’s bitchy attitude is no longer entertaining, it just makes him unlikeable.
If Ji Woo continues to twist the knife over dumping Seo Joon but offer no explanation then for me he will eventually reach the point of no return, and I won’t care if they get back together. And, the more horrible he is toward Seo Joon the more compelling the reason for it will have to be. This is a great production team but I don’t know if they could give us a reason that is as convincing as that.
A series for newbie actors to debut in but with a lack of acting skills AGAIN......Meks arrogant attitude comes…
Mek is not a “newbie actor”. Check his bio. He’s been in the business for years and has played a number of diverse characters very well. Maybe you never heard of him because this is his first time as a ML in a BL.
Anyone who complains that this is the same old same old should ask yourself what you really expected when you clicked on Part 1 of 4. This is BL. If you want groundbreaking gay cinema then head over to GagaOOLala.
Not every series can be about a reluctant mob boss who falls in love with a bartender turned bodyguard. And despite the many tropes that this will throw at us, as with any other BL series they'll put their own spin on them, and people like me will delight in the moments of recognition while also appreciating the goofy tradition that they represent.
Aside from that, the cast is attractive and while they're a little rough around the edges with their acting, I like that they are almost all new faces and are digging into their roles with enthusiasm.
Having been crazy about Mek since his "Ugly Duckling" days I can't believe we will actually see him in a BL.
As for this series, I think it highlighted to me how much I enjoy the chase but get a little distracted once the couple is established.
I appreciate that Phoon was treated well by the screenwriters, although toward the end he started to come off as a little too saintly and understanding. (And who did he get to share a room with at Prince's place? He wasn't paired with anyone, right?) It would have been cool to see him become part of "Sky In Your Heart" and end up with a true love of his own, but he's not on the cast list so oh well.
My favorite part of the last episode for this series was the little game around the campfire where the guys said what they thought of each other when they first met. Maithee's reaction was hilarious. Seeing Pawin play that role the way he did, I'm reminded of how people said that in real life he was a funny and outgoing guy and nothing like the dour Pai he played in "Gear and Gown". I hope to see more from him now.
Dao makes assignments for Kluen *secretly* but Kluen actually knows and isn't saying anything about it? How convenient…
This part of their back story makes absolutely no sense to me.
It seems to be a common trope in Asian drama that the.romantic leads should have some sort of meaningful connection in the past, knowingly or unknowingly. I’ve watched some series that went to ridiculous lengths to concoct some screwball scenarios.
Maybe that’s part of the reason they introduced the homework thing. It wasn’t enough that Kluen and Dao went to high school together — there needed to be a way to show that they were actually more connected than that, something that contributed to the narrative that they were fated to be together someday.
And, like you say, what they came up with is not only strange but doesn’t reflect well on either character.
This was great, loved it. I feel like earlier comments on this were a bit dramatic tbh. I'd say give it a chance…
Nobody was saying that you can like only girls or only boys and not both. And I agree that the premise for this series (doubts about one’s own sexuality) was a good one. It was just poorly delivered.
I complained about the constant focus on m/f flirting not because I hate women, or hate men and women being together, or feel that you have to like “only” girls or “only” boys. I didn’t like that this was marketed as a BL but did virtually nothing to give us a BL storyline for five out of six episodes.
It’s a common debating tactic to restate your opponent’s position by distorting it enough to give you something to attack. Please find a place where any of us who dislike this series said that a person can like only men or only women. Or that love and sexuality are always “straightforward”. What’s BS is asserting that those statements happened when they never did.
Earlier in one of the other comments someone alluded to the possibility that I might be a misogynist because I didn’t appreciate this series’ focus on m/f romance. All that told me was that that person either didn’t really know what misogyny is, or did know and was shamefully belittling it as a phenomenon by using it as an irrelevant put down on an internet message board.
I found I couldn't get into higher profile series like "What Zabb Man!" and "La Cuisine" but this one makes me laugh and smile. It has my two favorite tropes--enemies to lovers and accidentally in love--and along with "Sky in Your Heart" brings back the goofy fun that I had when I first discovered BL.
So far, no evil characters either, although there's a couple of intersecting love triangles in the making, along with an unrequited love that I hope will end up being requited. And it's great to see an established m/m couple in the mix. There might be some strife on the horizon for them, but so far it doesn't seem it will be related to a rival suddenly appearing to threaten their seven-year relationship. If their storyline keeps to that then it will present a more realistic dynamic for a long term relationship than the disappointing (so far) "To My Star 2".
On the right hand side of the viewing area for the episodes, the first 20 episodes are in a stack. At the top of that stack there’s a white oval with “1 - 20” in it. To the right of that oval you can see “21 - 24”. You have to click on that. It will then turn into a white oval and the last four episodes will be there for you to click on.
To be fair, though, Hwang In Youp has a unique look that must have made it hard to cast the younger version of him.
The other thing I hate is that a Season Two that starts like this retroactively negates the happy ending of its Season One.
After a successful series there’s always a chorus of people crying out for a Season Two, but PAY ATTENTION, PEOPLE. Season Two of anything is almost always about a breakup, and thus ends up making Season One look like a lie.
I hope the explanation for Ji Woo’s shocking behavior (leaving Seo Joon with just a note, and on his birthday no less) is solid. His crankiness in Season One was funny because he was completely unimpressed with someone who was this generic celebrity. In this season he’s pulling the same schtick but now he’s hurting a specific someone who only happens to be a celebrity, and has become a real person to him and to us. That’s entirely different. Ji Woo’s bitchy attitude is no longer entertaining, it just makes him unlikeable.
If Ji Woo continues to twist the knife over dumping Seo Joon but offer no explanation then for me he will eventually reach the point of no return, and I won’t care if they get back together. And, the more horrible he is toward Seo Joon the more compelling the reason for it will have to be. This is a great production team but I don’t know if they could give us a reason that is as convincing as that.
Not every series can be about a reluctant mob boss who falls in love with a bartender turned bodyguard. And despite the many tropes that this will throw at us, as with any other BL series they'll put their own spin on them, and people like me will delight in the moments of recognition while also appreciating the goofy tradition that they represent.
Aside from that, the cast is attractive and while they're a little rough around the edges with their acting, I like that they are almost all new faces and are digging into their roles with enthusiasm.
I had fun and I'll be back. :)
As for this series, I think it highlighted to me how much I enjoy the chase but get a little distracted once the couple is established.
I appreciate that Phoon was treated well by the screenwriters, although toward the end he started to come off as a little too saintly and understanding. (And who did he get to share a room with at Prince's place? He wasn't paired with anyone, right?) It would have been cool to see him become part of "Sky In Your Heart" and end up with a true love of his own, but he's not on the cast list so oh well.
My favorite part of the last episode for this series was the little game around the campfire where the guys said what they thought of each other when they first met. Maithee's reaction was hilarious. Seeing Pawin play that role the way he did, I'm reminded of how people said that in real life he was a funny and outgoing guy and nothing like the dour Pai he played in "Gear and Gown". I hope to see more from him now.
Kudos for Louis' OST song too. Really like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9ixyXhOl6I
It seems to be a common trope in Asian drama that the.romantic leads should have some sort of meaningful connection in the past, knowingly or unknowingly. I’ve watched some series that went to ridiculous lengths to concoct some screwball scenarios.
Maybe that’s part of the reason they introduced the homework thing. It wasn’t enough that Kluen and Dao went to high school together — there needed to be a way to show that they were actually more connected than that, something that contributed to the narrative that they were fated to be together someday.
And, like you say, what they came up with is not only strange but doesn’t reflect well on either character.
I complained about the constant focus on m/f flirting not because I hate women, or hate men and women being together, or feel that you have to like “only” girls or “only” boys. I didn’t like that this was marketed as a BL but did virtually nothing to give us a BL storyline for five out of six episodes.
It’s a common debating tactic to restate your opponent’s position by distorting it enough to give you something to attack. Please find a place where any of us who dislike this series said that a person can like only men or only women. Or that love and sexuality are always “straightforward”. What’s BS is asserting that those statements happened when they never did.
Earlier in one of the other comments someone alluded to the possibility that I might be a misogynist because I didn’t appreciate this series’ focus on m/f romance. All that told me was that that person either didn’t really know what misogyny is, or did know and was shamefully belittling it as a phenomenon by using it as an irrelevant put down on an internet message board.