morally grey FL's are nothing new to Kdramas.There are many Kdramas with similar kind of FL.What we never get…
I’m watching Only For Love now. It’s a Chinese Drama. The the narrative changes enough to make it hard to pin down, but ostensibly , the FL sets out to make the ML fall for her so she can get even because she mistakenly believes his niece stole her boyfriend. Trying to get even that way seems pretty morally grey to me. Aside from that, Vincenzo and The Fiery Priest, though neither are romantic in the least, but I Am Not A Robot is.
morally grey FL's are nothing new to Kdramas.There are many Kdramas with similar kind of FL.What we never get…
Morally grey characters are as old as storytelling. Few protagonists in Greek tragedies were remotely nice people. Heck even Odysseus returned home to butcher a room full of his wife’s suitors, with the help of the goddess Athena, who was all in for the carnage.
It is quite noticeable that many kdramas have characters that slant towards female audiences. In a few fairly popular ones, every single relationship problem is the man’s fault. I guess I’m not supposed to notice that. I have to admit though, it rarely dampens my enjoyment of them much. If it’s well written and well acted it’s all good.
However, whether male or female, there’s a point where the acts are so repugnant you loose the audience. People might be dropping this one because they don’t feel the FL deserves redemption.
I summed up my opinion below. The ending was a big nothing, as a result, the whole thing just kind of fizzled out at a point where you're expecting it to be at its most dramatic.
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I nhavent seen the scene, but I concur. I see it all the time. Not everything is social commentary. Not every scene has to be politically correct or portray everything in a socially acceptable way, We are all individuals and the ability to poke fun at ourselves and not take ourselves so seriously should be treasured.
The FL was too bizarre of a mix for me. Uncannily astute about most things but hopelessly unaware of how her actions would be perceived when she needed to be the most careful. Usually women are quite good at reading men and how their actions might result in unwanted attention, yet this highly emotionally aware woman had no idea how dangerously wrong her actions could go. Especially after she’d experienced first hand how devastating one misstep could be. It was impossible to believe.
To top it all off it was an odd ending, focusing on the opponent at the end rather than either of the leads. Creating confusion about what was going on. It was all strangely rushed despite taking four episodes and oddly unsettling give how it all worked out. Somehow they managed to do all the wrong things in the end to turn a fairly decent concept into a less than stellar story.
This got more bizarre as it went in, like a fairy tale where nobody had any skepticism about the story they are being told. Who makes life changing decisions without asking … wait a minute, how does that even make sense.
Loved the show but hated the ending. Mostly because it wasn’t really an ending. Fewer loose ends were tied up at the end of the last episode than there were at the start. It made the whole season seem like just a setup for season 2. I wish they’d have had more of a sense of one chapter ending and the possibility of another starting. I guess I wouldn’t mind so much but often there isn’t a season 2 and if there is, it’s a long time off.
This show did a pretty good job of explaining it, but not in a very sensible way. The vampire thinks it’s worth…
There’s nothing wrong with knowing it’s rediculous and liking it anyway. For example, there’s no way without functioning muscles (I.e. rotted ones) for zombies to move., but I still like zombie movies. I’m particularly enjoying My Undead Yokai Girlfriend despite the fact it’s utterly preposterous.
This show did a pretty good job of explaining it, but not in a very sensible way. The vampire thinks it’s worth…
In general I’m inclined to agree. However, I also recognize tthat there is too much we don’t know about science and too many contradictions in quantum mechanics to make a definitive statement about the existence of a soul (although no generally accepted definition exist for a soul) so I try not to be too certain about matters that can’t easily be proven. Of course that means I also think your opinion is perfectly valid and can’t quarrel with the idea that a soul (whatever that is) and the physical body are indivisible.
can someone pretty please explain to me, why do all these supernatural being want to be "human" so much?😅 unless…
This show did a pretty good job of explaining it, but not in a very sensible way. The vampire thinks it’s worth being mortal if he can just once experiences a love that makes his heart beat. What makes this a bit illogical was that he’s been longing for centuries for the woman he so desperately loved. So how goes it make sense to have had an epic love but still be waiting for one?
The problem with this show is the ending, but not necessarily in the way some people are thinking. In stories the ending needs to be the payoff for what came before. If it’s James Bond in Bond film, he has to have never been in greater danger, the plot must never have been more sinister or epic and it must seem hopeless. Yet Bond finds a way out.
In a murder mystery the mystery must seem completely confounding, and yet some twist at the end allows the detective to explains it all. In most stories the characters simply find themselves faced with unsolvable problems and yet some new information or turn of events allows them to resolve it in a surprising way. Even in a tragedy like Casablanca, the story of two people in love expands at the end and becomes about something bigger than the two of them. It becomes about the fight against Nazi Germany, and it resolves in an a way that wasn’t entirely expected.
In this show we got none of that. There were no twists, no unexpected turns of events and no payoff. The loose ends weren’t tied up in any particularly surprising way. Events played out as expected and you were left waiting for some surprise or twist that never came. In that sense it was entirely anticlimactic. In a way, it felt like the writers painted themselves into a corner and just gave up on trying to find anything big, fresh or surprising at the end. At which point the story just fizzled out, which was a shame given the shows potential.
All the Japanese dramas I watched didn't end well. Never! Thats why i hate japanese drama.1. Hachi's mother still…
A lot of Japanese shows have good endings. Zom 100, Bucket List of the Dead had a great ending. Hold my hand at Twilight was great. I agree, a lot of them miss the mark because they are trying a little too hard to be shocking or novel, or they are too abrupt, or they leave too many loose-ends, but there are still gems out there.
I’m only half way through and I like it and my wife doesn’t. I think you explained our two views nicely. For…
My wife decided to stick with it and I think she found it okay in the end. I really enjoyed the music and liked the show. Double the amount of great musical performances and it would have been fantastic for that alone.
I get the ending is quite shocking for a romcom (didn't watch the drama, just know how it ends), but so many people…
I think it’s reasonable to expect comedy to have a happy ending . You didn’t watch a comedy to cry. However, I don’t think the problem was a tragic ending, it was a confusing ending and not remotely surprising. You’re expecting some kind of surprise or twist but what happened was exactly what the show led you to believe would happen.
You may have missed that it goes on after that, After the smile, we get a long shot where everyone else disappears and all that’s left is a the ML on the balcony. What the heck was that supposed to be
Loved this show. The main couple were great. Any other actors and it might not have worked. She especially might have come off as abrasive. It takes good acting to say “you’re such an idiot” and make it sound like the most sincere love confession. I especially liked the message that dreams are important and they can give your life meaning the purpose, but they won’t always make you happy.. I don’t know if it was a point the show set out to make, but in an achievement obsessed world, it’s an important message for people to hear.
I’m also confused because they possible love rivals were introduced in the beginning but they haven’t done…
I can see boring but I don’t get unrealistic, I dated my wife for two years and we never argued. We were in love. Everything else seemed unimportant.. However couples do argue, but it’s usually over mundane boring stuff. When was the last time you saw a drama where the couple had a knock down drag out over him leaving the toilet seat up? Or the woman rip into the man because she fed a bad day at work and was taking it out on every thing about him that ever annoyed her. No, it’s dramas that are unrealistic, but that’s what makes them interesting.
As for the mumbling. I didn’t like it either, but I’ll take that over every other Korean show where someone asks a direct and pointed question and the other person stands there and says nothing.
I’m also confused because they possible love rivals were introduced in the beginning but they haven’t done…
I think the love rivals were introduced more to show how normal, intelligent people would avoid misunderstandings and conflict. Half the charm and surprise of the show was showing how the leads avoided doing stupid things that could jeopardize their relationship. I know it’s a bit boring when drama is avoided, and I I understand why you didn’t like it. I don’t blame you, but I found it a refreshing change of pace.
It is quite noticeable that many kdramas have characters that slant towards female audiences. In a few fairly popular ones, every single relationship problem is the man’s fault. I guess I’m not supposed to notice that. I have to admit though, it rarely dampens my enjoyment of them much. If it’s well written and well acted it’s all good.
However, whether male or female, there’s a point where the acts are so repugnant you loose the audience. People might be dropping this one because they don’t feel the FL deserves redemption.
To top it all off it was an odd ending, focusing on the opponent at the end rather than either of the leads. Creating confusion about what was going on. It was all strangely rushed despite taking four episodes and oddly unsettling give how it all worked out. Somehow they managed to do all the wrong things in the end to turn a fairly decent concept into a less than stellar story.
In a murder mystery the mystery must seem completely confounding, and yet some twist at the end allows the detective to explains it all. In most stories the characters simply find themselves faced with unsolvable problems and yet some new information or turn of events allows them to resolve it in a surprising way. Even in a tragedy like Casablanca, the story of two people in love expands at the end and becomes about something bigger than the two of them. It becomes about the fight against Nazi Germany, and it resolves in an a way that wasn’t entirely expected.
In this show we got none of that. There were no twists, no unexpected turns of events and no payoff. The loose ends weren’t tied up in any particularly surprising way. Events played out as expected and you were left waiting for some surprise or twist that never came. In that sense it was entirely anticlimactic. In a way, it felt like the writers painted themselves into a corner and just gave up on trying to find anything big, fresh or surprising at the end. At which point the story just fizzled out, which was a shame given the shows potential.
As for the mumbling. I didn’t like it either, but I’ll take that over every other Korean show where someone asks a direct and pointed question and the other person stands there and says nothing.