I had to quit listening to Kpop because every song made me feel guilty when I thought about what must be going…
No industry is perfect. Despite its shortcomings, I value the moments of magic that Kpop and Kdramas bring into my life
I’d like to see the industry improve its working conditions so that my favorite artists/groups can thrive together. Until then, I'll treasure what we have
"What he watches is a common fantasy of women and men hence why it gets filmed in porn"The unfortunate reality…
The prevalence of rape is difficult to accurately gauge due to the high incidence of underreporting out of shame, fear of reprisal, and confusion over the different behaviors that constitute rape. Reported cases of rape are a fraction of the total number of incidents that occur
The lack of an overt link between rape-themed porn and reported incidents of rape doesn't preclude the possibility of a connection between the two factors. Longitudinal studies with large sample sizes are needed to further investigate the issue. In the meantime, it wouldn't hurt to exercise caution and maintain a conservative stance on the consumption of rape-themed porn (better safe than sorry)
Let's say some consumers don't engage in the acts themselves. Presenting rape in an arousing context (immoral in itself) creates a societal framework that enables and excuses the actions of those who do
"... xenophobic comments ... misandrist comments ... Nazi Republic Mydramalist ..."You’re all defending "porn"…
It's not clear if the person sharing inappropriate content has a history of abusive behavior. What's clear is that the content shared is worthy of criticism. We can take a principled stand against it without name-calling
We've got s*xual abusers, multiple DUI's, a homophobe, a cheater, r@pists and now a r@pe p*rn watcher 😪Casting…
Finding actors who aren't this morally compromised or questionable shouldn't be a difficult task, which makes the casting crew's choices all the more troubling
We've got s*xual abusers, multiple DUI's, a homophobe, a cheater, r@pists and now a r@pe p*rn watcher 😪Casting…
The question they are asking is, "casting crew really couldn't find actors that ain't corrupt or rotten?"
Using the descriptors "corrupt" and "rotten" in this context, the commenter is implying that homophobia and cheating are immoral, not necessarily illegal. They violate the basic moral principles of equality, respect for others' differences, honesty, and trustworthiness
What he watches is a common fantasy of women and men hence why it gets filmed in porn. People need to separate…
"What he watches is a common fantasy of women and men hence why it gets filmed in porn"
The unfortunate reality of people fantasizing about rape being the reason behind the presence of glorified rape in fiction is an example of reality affecting fiction. The actions we take in one sphere of existence can't be isolated or separated from the rippling effects they have in the other
You've acknowledged the effect of reality ("rape is a common fantasy") on fiction ("hence why it gets filmed in porn"). Immoral fiction is a window into the immoral hearts and minds of people. It stands to reason that fiction affects reality. The stories we tell have the power to bleed into people's daily lives and sway their hearts and minds. It's our responsibility, then, to criticize and denounce the glorification of rape in fiction
Alternatively, you can keep your rape fetishes private and to yourselves to avoid criticism altogether
"not just as a "modern feminist" type of drama, which would be totally stupid for a sageuk."Well, that kind of…
"98% of all BL series are "sci-fi" (unicorns flying, total acceptance by family and society ..."
There's no shame in entertaining the possibility of a gay-friendly world
If fiction were bound to a dogmatic adherence to the status quo/present reality, it would be a documentary. Not fiction. Creatures that "distort reality," dragons, hobbits, werewolves, vampires, etc, are met with wonder. Why the furrowed brows now that we dare to imagine gay-friendly fictional worlds?
Gay happiness isn't "sci-fi" or fantasy, it's a fundamental right. Fiction can be a window into alternate realities that could've or should've been, where acceptance is the norm, not the exception, where the societal limitations that prevent the full expression of love between members of the same sex are non-existent, where homophobia isn't a burden for gay people to bear, where happiness isn't a mythical creature for gay couples to chase
For those of us in the gay community, societal ostracism, familial rejection, and suicidal ideation are all too familiar. Our lived experiences don't need to be rehashed in an escapist medium. It's neither enjoyable nor beneficial to perpetuate the myth that gay people are doomed to misery
"... where you basically cannot speak the world gay"
You're ignoring the promising current that has begun to flow: BL characters increasingly owning their homosexuality, coming out as gay, and not tiptoeing around it. An example that comes to mind is the Japanese BL drama, "Perfect Propose." One of the main characters, Kai, comes out and discloses his sexuality to his love interest
"Asia could ruin Western industry by importing their sci-fi, notfuckingsomuch gay-notreallygay lovers mindset"
Homophobia is a global phenomenon, it's everywhere
As much as you fret over Asia potentially "infecting" the West with its "not-really-gay" or "only-gay-for-you" narratives, Western countries possess a wealth of their own homophobic beliefs and attitudes. The introduction of one more flavor of homophobia won't tip the scales in any direction
I don't think it's absolutely right for this movie to be thought of as a bromance. Because as someone who watches…
Historical accounts of relationships between two men or two women are filtered through a homophobic lens. "Friendship," "bromance/sismance," or romance, no one knows the full story
Whether or not they were "just friends," I believe it's more of an insult to assume that a deeper, more romantic connection wasn't possible
Historical accounts of relationships between two men or two women are filtered through a homophobic lens. "Friendship," "bromance/sismance," or romance, no one knows the full story
Whether or not they were "just friends," I believe it's more of an insult to assume that a deeper, more romantic connection wasn't possible
On KBS? Maybe around the year 2084… this is going on the government-owned, most conservative mainstream (public)…
Too often, the progression of a relationship between two women or two men is stunted and reduced to the label of "just friendship" that deprives them of the emotional depth and intimacy romance could offer. It's a shame!
There is bromance :) I don't mind hetero or homosexual love stories but as they used Lee San and some real historical…
A crown prince or medieval male warrior could've very well engaged in a love affair with another man without a trace of it being preserved. Such a revelation would've been buried by the bloody gloves of the aristocratic elite to maintain appearances of propriety. No record would dare speak of it, and hints of gay love would be replaced with "friendly platitudes"
History is written and rewritten by the victors. Or in this case, by the straight-washing, homophobic society. For every story preserved, countless others are lost to the tides of time and cultural norms. One can only wonder at the secrets held in the buried pages deemed unfit for the public eye
The BL/GL/gay interpretations of history aren't an inaccurate retelling or rewriting of a history that's already been rewritten by those in power. We're filling in the gaps and exploring the possibilities that might've been erased from historical records
If the use of real historical names feels inappropriate to you, we could rename the characters to create a story that draws from history, but isn't beholden to it. I'd enjoy a story that prioritizes emotional resonance over rigid adherence to historical records
"Come to my quarters at midnight tomorrow, don't breathe a word to anyone" (16:12)
This line was ripe with BL/gay subtext. The secrecy, the lingering glances, the closeness, the unspoken tension between the two men that pulled them ever closer teased at something more than "just friendship." Yet, the societal expectations of the past and the present snuffed out the possibility of a blazing love affair
To the people scoffing at the reimagination of these historical figures or their relationships as gay based on the supposed lack of historical "evidence," I have a sobering truth: a crown prince or medieval male warrior could've very well engaged in a love affair with another man without a trace of it being preserved. Such a revelation would've been buried by the bloody gloves of the aristocratic elite to maintain appearances of propriety. No record would dare speak of it, and hints of gay love would be replaced with "friendly platitudes"
History is written and rewritten by the victors. Or in this case, by the straight-washing, homophobic society. For every story preserved, countless others are lost to the tides of time and cultural norms. One can only wonder at the secrets held in the buried pages deemed unfit for the public eye
The BL/GL/gay interpretations of history aren't an inaccurate retelling or rewriting of a history that's already been rewritten by those in power. We're filling in the gaps and exploring the possibilities that might've been erased from historical records
If the use of real historical names feels inappropriate to you, we could rename the characters to create a story that draws from history, but isn't beholden to it. I'd enjoy a story that prioritizes emotional resonance over rigid adherence to historical records
the enduring presence of explicit scenes in korean movies doesn't demand acceptance or tolerance from all viewers.…
Korean women, Korean men, or Koreans in general, I read your comment and I know you should chill out with the baby-making pressure
Declining birth rates aren't a problem, they mean more room in the world for cats, which are way more fun than human babies, and they don't require diapers or a college fund
Have you read the webtoon, and the chapter in question ?It doesn't "confront/adress" any issues, in this case…
You have a lot of opinions, don't you? And I have news for you. Not everyone agrees with you or your version of a "free" society where there are no rules or limitations on what content is created or distributed
No society is "free" to begin with. Every society has rules and norms that limit individual freedom. A "free" society is a jungle, and even there, you can't pee on the lion's tree without consequences
Calling the other commenter a "moron" was rude and unnecessary. Please try to maintain a civil, respectful conversation here
I’d like to see the industry improve its working conditions so that my favorite artists/groups can thrive together. Until then, I'll treasure what we have
The lack of an overt link between rape-themed porn and reported incidents of rape doesn't preclude the possibility of a connection between the two factors. Longitudinal studies with large sample sizes are needed to further investigate the issue. In the meantime, it wouldn't hurt to exercise caution and maintain a conservative stance on the consumption of rape-themed porn (better safe than sorry)
Let's say some consumers don't engage in the acts themselves. Presenting rape in an arousing context (immoral in itself) creates a societal framework that enables and excuses the actions of those who do
Using the descriptors "corrupt" and "rotten" in this context, the commenter is implying that homophobia and cheating are immoral, not necessarily illegal. They violate the basic moral principles of equality, respect for others' differences, honesty, and trustworthiness
The unfortunate reality of people fantasizing about rape being the reason behind the presence of glorified rape in fiction is an example of reality affecting fiction. The actions we take in one sphere of existence can't be isolated or separated from the rippling effects they have in the other
You've acknowledged the effect of reality ("rape is a common fantasy") on fiction ("hence why it gets filmed in porn"). Immoral fiction is a window into the immoral hearts and minds of people. It stands to reason that fiction affects reality. The stories we tell have the power to bleed into people's daily lives and sway their hearts and minds. It's our responsibility, then, to criticize and denounce the glorification of rape in fiction
Alternatively, you can keep your rape fetishes private and to yourselves to avoid criticism altogether
There's no shame in entertaining the possibility of a gay-friendly world
If fiction were bound to a dogmatic adherence to the status quo/present reality, it would be a documentary. Not fiction. Creatures that "distort reality," dragons, hobbits, werewolves, vampires, etc, are met with wonder. Why the furrowed brows now that we dare to imagine gay-friendly fictional worlds?
Gay happiness isn't "sci-fi" or fantasy, it's a fundamental right. Fiction can be a window into alternate realities that could've or should've been, where acceptance is the norm, not the exception, where the societal limitations that prevent the full expression of love between members of the same sex are non-existent, where homophobia isn't a burden for gay people to bear, where happiness isn't a mythical creature for gay couples to chase
For those of us in the gay community, societal ostracism, familial rejection, and suicidal ideation are all too familiar. Our lived experiences don't need to be rehashed in an escapist medium. It's neither enjoyable nor beneficial to perpetuate the myth that gay people are doomed to misery
"... where you basically cannot speak the world gay"
You're ignoring the promising current that has begun to flow: BL characters increasingly owning their homosexuality, coming out as gay, and not tiptoeing around it. An example that comes to mind is the Japanese BL drama, "Perfect Propose." One of the main characters, Kai, comes out and discloses his sexuality to his love interest
"Asia could ruin Western industry by importing their sci-fi, notfuckingsomuch gay-notreallygay lovers mindset"
Homophobia is a global phenomenon, it's everywhere
As much as you fret over Asia potentially "infecting" the West with its "not-really-gay" or "only-gay-for-you" narratives, Western countries possess a wealth of their own homophobic beliefs and attitudes. The introduction of one more flavor of homophobia won't tip the scales in any direction
Whether or not they were "just friends," I believe it's more of an insult to assume that a deeper, more romantic connection wasn't possible
Whether or not they were "just friends," I believe it's more of an insult to assume that a deeper, more romantic connection wasn't possible
History is written and rewritten by the victors. Or in this case, by the straight-washing, homophobic society. For every story preserved, countless others are lost to the tides of time and cultural norms. One can only wonder at the secrets held in the buried pages deemed unfit for the public eye
The BL/GL/gay interpretations of history aren't an inaccurate retelling or rewriting of a history that's already been rewritten by those in power. We're filling in the gaps and exploring the possibilities that might've been erased from historical records
If the use of real historical names feels inappropriate to you, we could rename the characters to create a story that draws from history, but isn't beholden to it. I'd enjoy a story that prioritizes emotional resonance over rigid adherence to historical records
This line was ripe with BL/gay subtext. The secrecy, the lingering glances, the closeness, the unspoken tension between the two men that pulled them ever closer teased at something more than "just friendship." Yet, the societal expectations of the past and the present snuffed out the possibility of a blazing love affair
To the people scoffing at the reimagination of these historical figures or their relationships as gay based on the supposed lack of historical "evidence," I have a sobering truth: a crown prince or medieval male warrior could've very well engaged in a love affair with another man without a trace of it being preserved. Such a revelation would've been buried by the bloody gloves of the aristocratic elite to maintain appearances of propriety. No record would dare speak of it, and hints of gay love would be replaced with "friendly platitudes"
History is written and rewritten by the victors. Or in this case, by the straight-washing, homophobic society. For every story preserved, countless others are lost to the tides of time and cultural norms. One can only wonder at the secrets held in the buried pages deemed unfit for the public eye
The BL/GL/gay interpretations of history aren't an inaccurate retelling or rewriting of a history that's already been rewritten by those in power. We're filling in the gaps and exploring the possibilities that might've been erased from historical records
If the use of real historical names feels inappropriate to you, we could rename the characters to create a story that draws from history, but isn't beholden to it. I'd enjoy a story that prioritizes emotional resonance over rigid adherence to historical records
That's your opinion. Far too often, what passes as "art" doesn't make me stop and think. We should prune them to let the few real gems shine through
"... you don't get to shut down the dissemination of art just because it makes you uncomfortable"
That's your opinion
You know, the thing more embarrassing than your comments is the fact that you thought they were clever or original
If the only thing that catches your eye is that scene, it's a red flag that the movie/drama is more of a stinker than anything else
"99.9% of Kdramas don't have sexual scene"
Maybe that's why many people enjoyed Kdramas so much
"If someone lets kid watch Squid Game and is okay with the violence but not the (not really explicit,,) scene, it's also laughable..."
It's a reminder that not everyone has the same taste in entertainment
Declining birth rates aren't a problem, they mean more room in the world for cats, which are way more fun than human babies, and they don't require diapers or a college fund
No society is "free" to begin with. Every society has rules and norms that limit individual freedom. A "free" society is a jungle, and even there, you can't pee on the lion's tree without consequences
Calling the other commenter a "moron" was rude and unnecessary. Please try to maintain a civil, respectful conversation here