Not everyone will enjoy the same things. Some people hate pineapple on pizza, others hate the sound of chewing, and I, personally, hate straight stories being inserted into adaptations of gay works. Condescension and mental gymnastics won't be effective in changing my mind
Rather than making me or others un-hate something we have every right to hate, you could enjoy the adaptation
"I’m ok with the straight couple"The second gay couple from the source material didn't make it to the adaptation,…
"... just imagine someone saying the same thing you said about straight couples, but about gay people"
That kind of situation doesn't require imagination or make-believe, it's the reality we live in. People say worse things about gay couples, and they don't stop at grumbling about the presence of gay characters. They censor non-straight literature or other creative mediums, disrupt pride events, and lobby for legal measures that infringe on the rights and existence of gay people
"... and if it took adding in a straight couple to make this show more successful what’s wrong with that?"
There are several problems with it, one of which is the establishment of a dangerous and unequal precedent where gay stories are permitted to exist as long as they're "balanced" with the straight agenda. Straight stories aren't required to insert gay couples to broaden their audience appeal; therefore, gay stories shouldn't insert the straight agenda for that purpose
The chase for mainstream success doesn't excuse the practice of straightwashing. It's a grim reminder that in society, financial gain takes priority over authenticity and the preservation of meaningful art. I won't support, accept, or tolerate it
"... but spending every waking hour on this page and attacking anyone with a slightly different opinion than yours cannot be healthy"
People invest their time in writing lengthy rants about those of us who disapprove of straightwashed adaptations. Is that healthy? Shouldn't they step away from the keyboard and reconnect with the outside world?
I don't think it's meant to be misleading as much as not wanting to give too much away. I mean, the very first…
"It seems pretty clear to me that we're getting Heesu's love story just as we want"
They folded under societal pressure to add a straight story, all so your straight fetishes could have their moment. It'd be a grave mistake to entrust them with Hee Su's love story and expect to get what we want
"But they can't spoil the actual confessing in a trailer, obviously"
They’re "protecting" Hee Su’s big confession and spoiling the entire straight story I didn't sign up for. Priorities, right?
"... and I don't mind that there's a secondary straight couple. They seem cute"
"Seem cute" is a strong phrase for a man and a woman whose "chemistry" rivals that of wet cardboard. Then again, someone who believes a man’s purpose is to worship a woman wouldn’t know better or anything about chemistry and relationships: https://imgur.com/1Am9fen
Waouh. The trailer is wild. It's either VERY misleading or they changed the focus of the story. I read the manhwa…
Whatever the producers are doing, they’re playing a dangerous game, and if the drama turns out to be as bad as the trailer, they’re going to have some serious explaining to do
"I’m ok with the straight couple"The second gay couple from the source material didn't make it to the adaptation,…
"In a realistic scenario, not everyone is going to be gay"
In a realistic scenario, not every story would be about straight identifying people, and here we are. Drowning in straight stories while gay stories get deleted, censored, or reduced to sidekicks
This isn’t a documentary or census report, it's fiction. Fiction doesn't need to reflect your or anyone else's personal statistical anxieties. Everyone can be gay in it
Instead of contaminating a gay story with straightness to satisfy a peculiar craving for "realism," producers should write their own stories that explore both gay and straight perspectives
"That sounds very Prejudice don’t you think?"
This isn’t prejudice. Not even remotely
You’re on the introductory chapter. Wait until you get to the part where I share my true thoughts on straight identifying people. The deeper you go, the more fascinating (and terrifying) it gets ... Or don't. Based on your response to my filtered musings, I’d suggest you exercise caution and refrain from venturing further
"Do you only watch “BL” dramas ?"
BL and GL. Romance isn’t my thing unless it’s gay. I gravitate toward non-romantic content
"I’m ok with the straight couple"The second gay couple from the source material didn't make it to the adaptation,…
The producers hold a significant portion of the blame, but the actors aren't angels or innocent bystanders. Their decision to be a part of this straightwashed project contributes to the issue
"... all of them seems to be happy about it so I’ll support"
Is it okay to litter if the person doing it is happy about it?
It's not about the actors' happiness, it's about the effect of their actions on the audience. I'm not happy that they're happy. How will they respond to that?
let’s wait until the first episodes come out before assuming anything. (y’all rushing the gun) I might be…
"I’m ok with the straight couple"
The second gay couple from the source material didn't make it to the adaptation, courtesy (not) of this cringeworthy straight "couple" preaching the gospel of heteronormativity and mass appeal. Their straight agenda, the parasite that it is, attached itself to the romance and drained the life out of the second gay couple until they're nothing but a faint memory of what could've been. I'm not okay with that
This was supposed to be a BL. I wanted more gayness, not less. If I wanted to endure straightness, I'd tune into the other generic dramas you've been watching
"... as long as they have chemistry"
The "chemistry" between men and women is the worst kind of chemistry. Think volatile reactions and toxic results
whelp ! you just spilled the beans!btw, I agree that we may be jumping to conclusions without seeing the actual…
Do you think I have an easy life?
Living in a Muslim-majority nation, I'm accustomed to the fear of war and political instability. The Islamic government is more interested in its Allah than the welfare of the people
Life is chaotic, unpredictable, and futile. That's all the more reason to care about the little gay stories that bring me joy and fulfillment. I won't stop defending them against censorship or straightwashing
whelp ! you just spilled the beans!btw, I agree that we may be jumping to conclusions without seeing the actual…
We can’t give up that easily. We’ll have to form a secret group dedicated to protecting gay stories from the tyranny of society's bad taste. They ruin everything
If you are on his side, I don't trust you. He's a shallow, obsessive person who takes advantage of drunk people.
I'm questioning how and when people care about consent
Society barely respects "consent" in real life. Fictional characters face more accountability for their actions than the world’s leaders or real-life celebrities
"If the characters are all flawed to the point of being irredeemable, then people truly don't have to choose one to feel invested in"
We engage with villains, antiheroes, and morally gray characters and pick a favorite all the time. That’s part of storytelling
"Stories are often designed to teach lessons too"
When will we get the morally enriching reboot of "Looney Tunes" where Wile E. Coyote faces legal action for reckless endangerment and misuse of ACME products? Or a version of "Sleeping Beauty" where no one "kisses" the princess and "violates" her sleeping body? That could've taught kids morals
You believe we're overreacting, I believe you're underreacting"... it wasn't as bad as y'all are making it seem"It's…
It seemed obvious to me that they were setting Chan Young and Ji Yu up as more than "just friends" with the hand-holding and the amount of shared screen time
If you are on his side, I don't trust you. He's a shallow, obsessive person who takes advantage of drunk people.
One questionable decision and suddenly the greenest flag is labeled the irredeemable villain of the century. By these people's unrealistic standards, anyone who’s ever taken a fry from someone else’s plate without obtaining full, enthusiastic consent from them should be charged with theft and sentenced to social exile
If you are on his side, I don't trust you. He's a shallow, obsessive person who takes advantage of drunk people.
Sometimes, a drama is designed to be consumed with popcorn, not a law degree
"The character is clearly obsessed with Daon but viewers seem to find it cute rather than creepy"
You're obsessed with the concept of "consent." Is that bad?
If "obsession" were a bad thing, most of the "romance" section would be reclassified as psychological horror. Almost all of them start with "I saw them once and now they're my reason for living," which, in any other context, would require a police report
"It just seems like I'm coming after Seonghyeon since I'm shocked at how many people are acting like he's an angel"
You’re opinionated and neutral, depending on what’s convenient
"Again, just because there are worse characters doesn't mean he's not still bad"
Every single character in the drama is flawed to some degree. The point is to explore messy human dynamics and romantic relationships. The drama isn't handing out "Good Behavior Awards" to anyone
"I don't know why people seem to think they're obligated to choose one to root for"
Because it’s a story, and stories make people invest in characters
"I don't know how you could assume I'm a child when most of the other comments here sound like they're written by actual children or teenagers"
What’s more effective than saying you’re mature? Sounding mature. Your "everyone else is a dumb child but me" is peak immature teenage energy
You believe we're overreacting, I believe you're underreacting"... it wasn't as bad as y'all are making it seem"It's…
Chan Young and Ji Yu aren't officially together in the manhwa. They're just friends, and their roles are inconsequential to the plot that revolves around two gay couples (Hee Su x Seung Won, Sun Woo x Yoo Dahm)
One of the gay couples has been removed from the adaptation. Producers are pushing the two side characters, Chan Young and Ji Yu, into a relationship to pander to a mainstream audience who wouldn't watch a gay drama. They're not ready to accept that a man and a woman can be just friends
y'all are over reacting tbh the trailer was pretty good and they just tried making it more of a surprise for people…
You believe we're overreacting, I believe you're underreacting
"... it wasn't as bad as y'all are making it seem"
It's worse than we make it seem. The trailer is a complete failure, and I can't condone the "straight" storyline featured in it. It goes against my expectations and principles
If you are on his side, I don't trust you. He's a shallow, obsessive person who takes advantage of drunk people.
It's a good thing we have you to tell us what's right and wrong in fiction, otherwise we might start thinking for ourselves ...
Fictional characters are exaggerated or flawed for dramatic effect, you can't assume someone's appreciation for a character equates to condoning their actions in real life
I've personally never engaged in inappropriate behavior with intoxicated individuals. In fact, I hate people too much to be in a relationship with them. A fictional depiction of kissing an intoxicated person won't influence my real-life behavior
Rather than making me or others un-hate something we have every right to hate, you could enjoy the adaptation
That kind of situation doesn't require imagination or make-believe, it's the reality we live in. People say worse things about gay couples, and they don't stop at grumbling about the presence of gay characters. They censor non-straight literature or other creative mediums, disrupt pride events, and lobby for legal measures that infringe on the rights and existence of gay people
"... and if it took adding in a straight couple to make this show more successful what’s wrong with that?"
There are several problems with it, one of which is the establishment of a dangerous and unequal precedent where gay stories are permitted to exist as long as they're "balanced" with the straight agenda. Straight stories aren't required to insert gay couples to broaden their audience appeal; therefore, gay stories shouldn't insert the straight agenda for that purpose
The chase for mainstream success doesn't excuse the practice of straightwashing. It's a grim reminder that in society, financial gain takes priority over authenticity and the preservation of meaningful art. I won't support, accept, or tolerate it
"... but spending every waking hour on this page and attacking anyone with a slightly different opinion than yours cannot be healthy"
People invest their time in writing lengthy rants about those of us who disapprove of straightwashed adaptations. Is that healthy? Shouldn't they step away from the keyboard and reconnect with the outside world?
They folded under societal pressure to add a straight story, all so your straight fetishes could have their moment. It'd be a grave mistake to entrust them with Hee Su's love story and expect to get what we want
"But they can't spoil the actual confessing in a trailer, obviously"
They’re "protecting" Hee Su’s big confession and spoiling the entire straight story I didn't sign up for. Priorities, right?
"... and I don't mind that there's a secondary straight couple. They seem cute"
"Seem cute" is a strong phrase for a man and a woman whose "chemistry" rivals that of wet cardboard. Then again, someone who believes a man’s purpose is to worship a woman wouldn’t know better or anything about chemistry and relationships: https://imgur.com/1Am9fen
In a realistic scenario, not every story would be about straight identifying people, and here we are. Drowning in straight stories while gay stories get deleted, censored, or reduced to sidekicks
This isn’t a documentary or census report, it's fiction. Fiction doesn't need to reflect your or anyone else's personal statistical anxieties. Everyone can be gay in it
Instead of contaminating a gay story with straightness to satisfy a peculiar craving for "realism," producers should write their own stories that explore both gay and straight perspectives
"That sounds very Prejudice don’t you think?"
This isn’t prejudice. Not even remotely
You’re on the introductory chapter. Wait until you get to the part where I share my true thoughts on straight identifying people. The deeper you go, the more fascinating (and terrifying) it gets ... Or don't. Based on your response to my filtered musings, I’d suggest you exercise caution and refrain from venturing further
"Do you only watch “BL” dramas ?"
BL and GL. Romance isn’t my thing unless it’s gay. I gravitate toward non-romantic content
"... all of them seems to be happy about it so I’ll support"
Is it okay to litter if the person doing it is happy about it?
It's not about the actors' happiness, it's about the effect of their actions on the audience. I'm not happy that they're happy. How will they respond to that?
The second gay couple from the source material didn't make it to the adaptation, courtesy (not) of this cringeworthy straight "couple" preaching the gospel of heteronormativity and mass appeal. Their straight agenda, the parasite that it is, attached itself to the romance and drained the life out of the second gay couple until they're nothing but a faint memory of what could've been. I'm not okay with that
This was supposed to be a BL. I wanted more gayness, not less. If I wanted to endure straightness, I'd tune into the other generic dramas you've been watching
"... as long as they have chemistry"
The "chemistry" between men and women is the worst kind of chemistry. Think volatile reactions and toxic results
Living in a Muslim-majority nation, I'm accustomed to the fear of war and political instability. The Islamic government is more interested in its Allah than the welfare of the people
Life is chaotic, unpredictable, and futile. That's all the more reason to care about the little gay stories that bring me joy and fulfillment. I won't stop defending them against censorship or straightwashing
Society barely respects "consent" in real life. Fictional characters face more accountability for their actions than the world’s leaders or real-life celebrities
"If the characters are all flawed to the point of being irredeemable, then people truly don't have to choose one to feel invested in"
We engage with villains, antiheroes, and morally gray characters and pick a favorite all the time. That’s part of storytelling
"Stories are often designed to teach lessons too"
When will we get the morally enriching reboot of "Looney Tunes" where Wile E. Coyote faces legal action for reckless endangerment and misuse of ACME products? Or a version of "Sleeping Beauty" where no one "kisses" the princess and "violates" her sleeping body? That could've taught kids morals
We can wait and see what they'll do
"The character is clearly obsessed with Daon but viewers seem to find it cute rather than creepy"
You're obsessed with the concept of "consent." Is that bad?
If "obsession" were a bad thing, most of the "romance" section would be reclassified as psychological horror. Almost all of them start with "I saw them once and now they're my reason for living," which, in any other context, would require a police report
"It just seems like I'm coming after Seonghyeon since I'm shocked at how many people are acting like he's an angel"
You’re opinionated and neutral, depending on what’s convenient
"Again, just because there are worse characters doesn't mean he's not still bad"
Every single character in the drama is flawed to some degree. The point is to explore messy human dynamics and romantic relationships. The drama isn't handing out "Good Behavior Awards" to anyone
"I don't know why people seem to think they're obligated to choose one to root for"
Because it’s a story, and stories make people invest in characters
"I don't know how you could assume I'm a child when most of the other comments here sound like they're written by actual children or teenagers"
What’s more effective than saying you’re mature? Sounding mature. Your "everyone else is a dumb child but me" is peak immature teenage energy
For viewers unfamiliar with the manhwa, the teaser or trailer would give the impression that Chan Young and Ji Yu are the main characters
One of the gay couples has been removed from the adaptation. Producers are pushing the two side characters, Chan Young and Ji Yu, into a relationship to pander to a mainstream audience who wouldn't watch a gay drama. They're not ready to accept that a man and a woman can be just friends
"... it wasn't as bad as y'all are making it seem"
It's worse than we make it seem. The trailer is a complete failure, and I can't condone the "straight" storyline featured in it. It goes against my expectations and principles
Fictional characters are exaggerated or flawed for dramatic effect, you can't assume someone's appreciation for a character equates to condoning their actions in real life
I've personally never engaged in inappropriate behavior with intoxicated individuals. In fact, I hate people too much to be in a relationship with them. A fictional depiction of kissing an intoxicated person won't influence my real-life behavior