So BL fans failed to defame Yoon Chanyoung, failed to prove the gay storyline is happening between OG Yiheon and…
Someone sounds bitter that some BL fans have standards and won't stand for censorship
I thought you've "already moved on from this drama." Why won't you practice what you preach and move on? You liked the drama, great. You don't have to hang around to fight with people who have different opinions
I mean no one seeing them as gay or having romance in the drama except of "some" bl fans, bfr, we all see them…
"The disrespect people here have for the genre, while they support the drama which is based on bl novel is pretty amusing. Like it’s literally the same story with some parts deleted. Move on with your life, you’ll forget this existed in a week"
You're dropping facts
Someone call the fire department, your comments set the homophobes ablaze
I mean no one seeing them as gay or having romance in the drama except of "some" bl fans, bfr, we all see them…
"... just like how they interpret The devil judge, weak hero or even stranger from hell to deluded themselves"
If you squint hard, every drama is a BL/BL bait in disguise
Art is a kaleidoscope, one turn and you see something straight, another turn and you see something gay. The possibilities are endless
"Tbh, if it wasn't you BL fans who Keep shitting on every people in the early days, those people may not even talked about the genre issues"
BL fans are a menace, they're always causing trouble, like ... uh ... talking about straight media issues! 🤯
"... and mind you, this BL novel is just a novelization from the STRAIGHT movie to begin with"
If you're going to remove the gay parts from a gay novel inspired by a straight movie, remove the cheese, the sauce, and the toppings from a pizza inspired by flatbread. The flatbread was the original (pizza, in its earliest form, was flatbread), but it's the cheese, the sauce, and the toppings that make the pizza tasty. Removing them will leave you with a plain, boring bread, and removing the gay parts from a gay novel will leave me with a plain, boring story
"... dw about my life, I've already move on from this drama"
You've "moved on" so much that you're still in the comments section talking about the drama
You might not be familiar with the Korean aging system. They add 1-2 years to their age depending on their birthday…
People are slapping the "pedophilia" label on every age gap relationship. They don't understand what the word means
A 17-year-old isn't a newborn, innocent lamb wandering into the big, bad world for the first time. The boy Se Kyung fell for happened to have an adult's soul in a teenage body. It doesn't bother me. The physical age trumps the soul-related maturity
I doubt that.A- there's homophobes who would've complainedB- there's the folks who are complaining about the mental…
Not everyone would've liked it more with the gay plot, but some of us would have
The age gap doesn't bother me because I see the soul as a separate entity from the body. The soul isn't bound by physical limitations or rules, it's not an issue for me if the new Yi Heon, who is inhabited by an adult's soul, were to have a romantic relationship with Se Kyung, another high schooler
VIU Thailand Ranking this week1. High School Return of a Gangster 🔥2. Wandee Goodday3. Lovely Runner4. My Love…
We have a censored adaptation of a gay work, beating gay works in ratings, and that's "ICONIC?"
The drama is doing well in the numbers department at the cost of its integrity getting "no homo'd" for the homophobic masses. Giving a participation trophy to this last place runner isn't iconic. It finished the race, but it didn't cross the finish line in style
Not all are homophobes. Yes, are like 5 or 6 that are radical, some never seen a bl and we cant force them, some…
My experience with other BL fans has been different. The ones I've come across here have been rational, level-headed and respectful. Insults were thrown their way, and they chose to respond with civility. You can scroll down to see it yourself
I'm sorry to hear that your experience has been less positive
okay, but it's not like Korea doesn't have many BLs, Gay dating show and from time to time even LGBT character…
This is a relatively new phenomenon. The first Korean BL (Where Your Eyes Linger) was released in 2020, and it wasn't that long ago. The gay characters in "regular" dramas are given minor or negative roles
I'm grateful for BL's existence and continued production. I just mean there's room for improvement
As someone who never read the manwhua, it would be confusing to see people rooting for a BL relationship between…
I agree, the drama would've been more enjoyable and more powerful without censorship
The novel was an inspiring story that celebrated the resilience and strength of gay people. Wounded by the homophobia and prejudice of society, Yi Heon was in a vulnerable and fragile state at the beginning. Through his growing love and connection with Se Kyung, Yi Heon had the opportunity to heal and rebuild himself, piece by piece. We would've been able to witness this journey and censorship didn't let us
"From a copyright perspective, the author/creator of the story allows for this change; without the creator's permission,…
Yi Heon's soul returned and he learned to open himself up to the possibility of love and connection with Se Kyung. The representation would've been positive, powerful and inspiring. Yi Heon's journey from a place of fear and isolation to one of love and connection would've suggested that even in the face of insurmountable obstacles, love can find a way. Every instance of positive, affirming gay love (as small as it might be) is something to be celebrated and cherished
Agree with everything you said! I just finished ep 6 and it's so obvious Se Kyung liked original Yi Heon and has…
"So what do people want to see exactly?"
The censorship isn't affecting the interactions between Gangster dude and Se Kyung. Their relationship wasn't intended to be romantic in the novel
The censorship removed Yi Heon's gay identity, the reason for his bullying and eventual suicide, and replaced it with a misrepresentation of him as a stalker that unfairly implies gay people are "dangerous" and "untrustworthy." People wanted to see the two boys acknowledging their feelings and pursuing a relationship after Yi Heon returns. This won't happen in a censored adaptation
Some dislike this series because it changes the direction from the original source material, shifting from BL…
"From a copyright perspective, the author/creator of the story allows for this change; without the creator's permission, it wouldn't have happened"
People have a valid reason to be upset or dislike the drama, though. After all, fans of straight stories express their dissatisfaction when changes are made to the stories. It's only fair for fans of gay stories to have the same opportunity to express their dissatisfaction
I absolutely understand why the BL part was not made explicit (minor/ gangster adult). Come on be reasonable,…
The BL element of the novel wasn't about a minor and an adult gangster. It was about two boys, Yi Heon and Se Kyung, who had feelings for each other before Yi Heon left his body. They explored their feelings upon Yi Heon's return
"To me the drama still works as a BL story"
You must be a creative genius to see a gay story where the creators have deliberately censored any suggestion of it ...
The audience being able to "decide" what kind of relationship two boys or two girls have would've been all well and good if the targeted audience didn't always interpret ambiguity as a "platonic" relationship. "They didn't kiss or confess, they were just good friends"
The purpose of storytelling is to, you know, tell a story. Leaving the relationship open to interpretation is a lazy, unsatisfying means of telling a story that could've explored the complexities of a non-traditional relationship
We're not supposed to be the ones filling in the blanks, that's the job of the creators
I thought you've "already moved on from this drama." Why won't you practice what you preach and move on? You liked the drama, great. You don't have to hang around to fight with people who have different opinions
You're dropping facts
Someone call the fire department, your comments set the homophobes ablaze
If you squint hard, every drama is a BL/BL bait in disguise
Art is a kaleidoscope, one turn and you see something straight, another turn and you see something gay. The possibilities are endless
"Tbh, if it wasn't you BL fans who Keep shitting on every people in the early days, those people may not even talked about the genre issues"
BL fans are a menace, they're always causing trouble, like ... uh ... talking about straight media issues! 🤯
"... and mind you, this BL novel is just a novelization from the STRAIGHT movie to begin with"
If you're going to remove the gay parts from a gay novel inspired by a straight movie, remove the cheese, the sauce, and the toppings from a pizza inspired by flatbread. The flatbread was the original (pizza, in its earliest form, was flatbread), but it's the cheese, the sauce, and the toppings that make the pizza tasty. Removing them will leave you with a plain, boring bread, and removing the gay parts from a gay novel will leave me with a plain, boring story
"... dw about my life, I've already move on from this drama"
You've "moved on" so much that you're still in the comments section talking about the drama
A 17-year-old isn't a newborn, innocent lamb wandering into the big, bad world for the first time. The boy Se Kyung fell for happened to have an adult's soul in a teenage body. It doesn't bother me. The physical age trumps the soul-related maturity
The age gap doesn't bother me because I see the soul as a separate entity from the body. The soul isn't bound by physical limitations or rules, it's not an issue for me if the new Yi Heon, who is inhabited by an adult's soul, were to have a romantic relationship with Se Kyung, another high schooler
The drama is doing well in the numbers department at the cost of its integrity getting "no homo'd" for the homophobic masses. Giving a participation trophy to this last place runner isn't iconic. It finished the race, but it didn't cross the finish line in style
I'm sorry to hear that your experience has been less positive
I'm grateful for BL's existence and continued production. I just mean there's room for improvement
The novel was an inspiring story that celebrated the resilience and strength of gay people. Wounded by the homophobia and prejudice of society, Yi Heon was in a vulnerable and fragile state at the beginning. Through his growing love and connection with Se Kyung, Yi Heon had the opportunity to heal and rebuild himself, piece by piece. We would've been able to witness this journey and censorship didn't let us
I'm waiting for other BLs now
The censorship isn't affecting the interactions between Gangster dude and Se Kyung. Their relationship wasn't intended to be romantic in the novel
The censorship removed Yi Heon's gay identity, the reason for his bullying and eventual suicide, and replaced it with a misrepresentation of him as a stalker that unfairly implies gay people are "dangerous" and "untrustworthy." People wanted to see the two boys acknowledging their feelings and pursuing a relationship after Yi Heon returns. This won't happen in a censored adaptation
People have a valid reason to be upset or dislike the drama, though. After all, fans of straight stories express their dissatisfaction when changes are made to the stories. It's only fair for fans of gay stories to have the same opportunity to express their dissatisfaction
"To me the drama still works as a BL story"
You must be a creative genius to see a gay story where the creators have deliberately censored any suggestion of it ...
The audience being able to "decide" what kind of relationship two boys or two girls have would've been all well and good if the targeted audience didn't always interpret ambiguity as a "platonic" relationship. "They didn't kiss or confess, they were just good friends"
The purpose of storytelling is to, you know, tell a story. Leaving the relationship open to interpretation is a lazy, unsatisfying means of telling a story that could've explored the complexities of a non-traditional relationship
We're not supposed to be the ones filling in the blanks, that's the job of the creators