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I think you just assumed it from some other comments. I was only talking about him wanting to leave the CP. Nothing about him not wanting to do BL. You can do BL and not want to be in a CP too. Idk why you even mentioned that yourself and then said “let’s stop saying that”. It was only you who said “assumptions about Chimon not wanting to do BL”. That wasn’t even on my brain, I was only talking about him not wanting to be in a CP anymore. I think you just assumed bc of your own reasons

I was just saying that they said they do know that he’s gonna be okay when H&S starts production which should start pretty soon too and there are a lot of ppl there who have only one job there this year too. And no, not only bc of injuries, there was a lot of other reasonings throughout the years where series has been postponed even for years. You can’t deny that would Book retreated they would replace the ship fully. Just like in most ships no one would asap replace Off in Offgun etc. They’d either replace the whole ship or would’ve waited. It all depends on the decision of the people in the ship. If they wanted to stay together, they would’ve. And yes, as u say we won’t pry, just stating the fact that all of the GMM’s announcements are usually just for the sake of announcements. Same as with Pawin’s situation ppl aren’t stupid.

So those are not rumours, I just said what they said. It was their decision to split. Schedule has nothing to do with it.

I honestly don’t think it’s true about GMM “forcing” anyone in BL. Dew and Nani despite being shipped also by fans seem to be doing fine without it. It is true though that every actor there probably knows that to get more money, being in a pairing is strategically better ofc. Plus it’s nice to a have a support I think. Est was whining about wanting one and Mark also finally was like yes, even though before he didn’t care for it :) I think Chimon also wanted it, but it all didn’t live up to his expectations. He and Perth are both very popular on their own with history of doing BLs too, it was bound to be a success. But then mean fans came and I even though Dunk also went through this nasties yelling everywhere for Joong to drop him, and Forcebook after Enchante got the whole pile of garbage thrown on them, not everyone can get out and recover or keep going after this. I do get that it’s not for everyone. You gotta be mentally build for this in this industry, that’s just how it goes. So I also think it was a good decision for both

Yeah, but Mark wasn’t in an established ship back then, plus it wasn’t even the main role, this has zero impact on anyone. Gawin recently got hurt, but no one is replacing him asap in GB. And High School Frenemy was temporarily stopped bc of Nani’s injury and only now restarted. It all depends on whether they wanted or not wanted to continued working on smth or not. If they wanted, I’m pretty sure they would’ve waited ok. I’m not talking about schedule clashes when they change actors, I’m talking about health problems situations. They say it’s only bc he’s gonna be okay when H&S will start filming, but if he wanted to be in P10L they would’ve waited for him just fine

But if we’re being honest GMM can easily allow themselves to postpone or temporarily stop the shooting, it has happened zillion times before bc of actors accidentally getting hurt and many other problems. I truly think there were obviously other reasons for this “break up”. If someone from Forcebook for some reason couldn’t make it, obviously they would’ve just postponed it easily until one got back and no one would’ve changed their partners. But ofc we won’t pry. Same as with several previous announcements, it’s obvious that they won’t say the complete truth. Nevertheless I hope everything will work out for everyone. Health and general well-being is the most important in life. I hope all the artists would always put it first instead of trying to please the fans or trying to continue when they don’t feel like they can. And hopefully everything will go well for PerthSanta too, good luck to everyone.

Gun kissing Tay was actually 10 out of 10, idk why TayNew fans rated their kiss as 1. So unfair 😞

Yeah, this is the irony. If that was indeed how he was “supposed to be”, it would just flow as it’s supposed to flow. It’s only when delivery is not working for people, it feels like something’s off.

And like I’m always reading everything: manga, novels, etc because I like watching characters I created in my head come to life and see whether the interpretation works for me or not. But my bestie is also anti-reading like you, yet we both agree that the point of movie and tv series adaptation is to deliver the information without people having to read the original material. It’s on actors too, since not everyone is going to read stuff before watching, most don’t.

If it’s working for some that’s great, but this argument aka “you just didn’t read and it’s seen” is just not it.

I’ve read it and it’s still not working for me. That’s not an offense tbh. I still think people are wrong when they say that if you can’t play any role you’re a bad actor. Sometimes people are just miscast in my opinion. Like not everyone on the Untamed cast could pull off Lan Zhan, doesn’t mean they’re bad actors. And the actor who plays Ida in Japanese version highly unlikely would be perfect in the role of Aoki. Sometimes the roles fit or don’t fit. For some it works, for some it doesn’t. I honestly don’t get what’s so offensive about that to people.

But yeah the main point is no one HAS TO read the manga to “get it”. That manga is not that deep, it’s not a psychological thriller lol

Poker-face, cold characters are indeed very hard to play. Maybe one of the hardest even. Because then you have to find ways to express things differently and that’s true art. Sadly not everyone can do that, so I think criticism in this aspect is allowed. We’ve been living with poker face characters in BL for a while now with most famous one to this day probably still being Lan Wangji. And yes there are indeed people who succeed in playing those characters and those who don’t. So if some say that for them Gemini’s acting here is not working it’s also a valid opinion, I’m just saying. It’s not because they don’t know that this character is supposed to be like that.

There are a lot of “expressionless” characters like Lan Zhan, Zhang Qiling, Sangwoo, Shinwoo, Shen Wei, Kluen etc. but like they’re all different. I don’t understand it when people say “that’s how he’s supposed to be”. He’s supposed to be like what? Like which one? LOL Even if you play poker-face guy it should speak to people on many levels. They’re all really different. There’s no such thing as “he doesn’t make you feel anything or seems robotic, because he plays nonchalant character”. Like I’m not on anyone’s side here, because what works for ones can not at all work for others, but that’s just not a good argument. Poker face character and someone acting unnatural are different things.

“he didn’t fell in love with the back, he fell in love at first sight with a person with his back turned”

yeah that’s it. that’s when you lost me. lmao back of a person it’s just a back. “he thought that person was tong and got obsessed with him”. he got obsessed with him and turned his life into that “unrequited love drama” because he saw a back. Because he saw. a. back.

The more I repeat it, the more my brain refuses to process this fact. But I’m glad it makes sense to some. “Fell in love with a person with his back turned”. I now just want an extra when they reveal it’s actually not Tong’s or Joe’s back, it’s the third guy haha

“He fell in love with Joe”. I just really sadly don’t see it, I feel like he feels guilty and yes he misses someone he can do couple things with because it was nice and all, but LOVE.. what exactly does he love about Joe specifically? Besides his stunt double skills and back? It’s really based only on this. Never once it was shown that he sees any of his personality traits or loves some part of his character.

but it’s okay that I don’t understand this kind of love, I just in general can’t comprehend any love at first sights even by the face, now the back is EXTRA hilarious to me

No, I get all that, this show is not complicated.
I think I’m trying to find some depth in Ming that doesn’t exist probably. It’s a bit upsetting to see that he’s not even interesting, he’s just sad tbh. But that’s just my problem because sexual awakening I 100% get, but starting to revolve your life about someone bc he has a hot back I do not get at all haha it’s just ridiculous in so many levels. He basically didn’t care at all about who is behind this back. Anyone would do. “Don’t try to make sense out of him, it’s pointless” is kinda upsetting (ofc I’ll try to, he’s the main character) bc even totally crazy characters like Xue Yang or smth, it’s still fun to make sense out of them (not realistically ofc), bc that’s the point of characters in fiction. This show is not really serious, it’s just funny to me that they clearly imply that it’s a love story. I’ve asked a friend and she told me that indeed yes a novel is a romance. That’s such a weird “romance”, it’s not romancing to me lol.

And ofc it’s doesn’t have to be epic (I just accidentally thought it was bc I’ve heard Chinese BL and reincarnation, I haven’t read it). I just can’t see it as any love story, even the simple one, that’s all.

P.S. is this Lee Dongshik I see? That’s rare. hello hello T_T

I didn’t say anything about something being wrong with being enamoured with part of somebody’s body. One of my favorite ships actually has canonical obsession with his partner’s wide shoulders, but that was already secondary after he made a whole list of how incredible he is to him as a person. He didn’t fell in love with his back and be like “oh if only this back that I love is transferred to a person who is more decent than the one I can’t have” lmao

But of course everyone is different. If you’re in love with David bc you found his back beautiful and start to revolve your life around this feeling even tho you don’t know the guy it’s a bit sad

P.S. about the toe it’s just a joke so some would get how it can be ridiculous if you think about it. I was just comedically exaggerating bc to me personally no any perfect body part can lead to dedicating my life to that person haha

That’s a very interesting and quality series but I really do not get how to feel “awww” at that moment everyone calls “realization” that “it was Joe all the time”. He says “I’m sorry, it was you from the start”. Like no, it wasn’t lol it was just a random back you attached to an assholish persona that decided you’re in love with. It wasn’t “Joe since the very beginning ”. You didn’t know him back then. This whole “I fell in love with the back” is such a weird concept to me personally. Teach me how to catch feelings like this haha

I do get Sirano de Bergerac situation when it’s truly a reveal like “oh it was YOU all along”, but here this scene doesn’t affect you in that way because his words don’t apply to this situation. It‘s not like he was in love with Joe ever since he saw his back. This is just funny. Imagine living with someone for 5 years and be like “actually I fell in love with your toe, oh wait, this toe wasn’t your toe all this time? I was in love with a guy across the street? then I’m leaving” lol

It’d be fine for me if it was like some psychological mental philosophy series, but from what I’m seeing I assume novel was meant to be a romantic novel, right? My brain sadly just can’t grasp the LOVE part here.

Like I’m usually all in for any love stories, including the toxic ones, but here I just don’t see a love story at all. Unless ofc this whole story is meant to be a tragedy and it’s just two sad ppl being forever sad. Like I already know it’s probably gonna end with them living all “happily ever after” being cute and all, but I will laugh 100% because that’s gonna be weird in my opinion. There is not even any specific huge personality trait that Ming could’ve recognise in Joe after reincarnation like in some love stories like that. It’s really just a back? haha that’s so sad, I shouldn’t laugh. It’s just that I for some reason assumed it was some epic love story or some shit.

Like cooking for someone you love and hugging them, it’s what 99% of ppl do, what exactly do they love about each other again? Spineless and hot back? Ayaaa lol About what Joe loves about Ming I won’t even ask…

I love the series btw, like finally something new, I find it fascinating that I do not ship the couple. Like ofc stay together if you consider this happiness for yourself, but i don’t care.

Yeah, this awkward vibe of “he kisses me I just stand there and blush” is never my thing. But when it also makes no sense in the context, it’s even more painful to watch for me.

Like damn, you’ve been dreaming about this person for a long time and you’re not a nun, so even after the initial shock, can I see him being at least somewhat invested? It’s really impossible to believe he was in love with him for soooo long. It’s not even just the kiss, it’s the whole body language to me, aka nonexistent.

I came to see if I was the only one and apparently I am lmao, but that was waaaaay too EXTRA for me. I get the situation but that was so dramatic it became comical, I was caught off guard with Satang’s performance which yeah was a good emotional break down, but like… why lol. It was way overboard and sudden for this particular thing. I had to rewind just to get where did I blink for so long and someone died xD Then “listen, please listen, please, listen”, he was standing there for like 20 minutes listening, you could’ve read him first chapter of “Lord of the Rings” by that time.

I also sadly still cannot see their romantic chemistry (but that’s just my tastebuds), that kiss was very cringy to me. I was really trying with these two since it was their episode this week basically but I don’t think I see what others see. I can say I tried very hard though.

And the flow of the show is very bad to me, bc scenes are very random, they try to fit all 4 couples in the episode at least for a bit and it ruins emotional investment in the storylines. Last episode we don’t see almost anything valuable about the two, next it’s sudden epic drama, while the couple we got invested last week bc of their screen time and development , now gets nothing. It doesn’t entertain me, it’s pissing me off instead, bc my personal emotions don’t work like this, I can’t just turn on and off and pause it, the distribution is just not it. New stays my worst enemy when it comes to storytelling. I can’t get this dude at all.

why is it only ep2 and Phum is already looking like he wants to spread Pheem under him and satisfy him thoroughly (and not just like in a “I wanna fuck you” way, but definitely in a “I wanna fuck you with lots of love” considering the way he looks at him) and Pheem looks like he’d not only volunteer as a tribute asap but would also lie there and scoff “so are you doing me or not, bitch, or do you need a special invitation? move your perfect ass faster” xD

and I’m just here wondering whether it’s just my dumbass heart who’s stuck in palmnueng or to somebody else it also looked like that?

kaleidoscope of death ☺️

he had such an incredible internal fight between “I just want to hold you and never let go to feel that you’re alive” and “you f*cking SOB, you hurt me so much, I’m afraid I’m gonna strangle you myself if you touch me rn”. It was really iconic.

despite me loving the series and main couple a lot, I found too many scenes underwhelming. I mean I was waiting for the reunion so badly and it was like… oh well.

maybe it’s just bc in one of my fav otps of all time when one faked his death (for a much more valid reason btw, he really wasn’t sure he would survive) the other one after the reveal was so mad SOOOOOOOO mad it was like such an emotionally draining moment, he at first was very cold and then there was such intense emotional fight with many incredible points that at the end made the other realize that that’s not how it works when you’re in a relationships. and even though I understand that these relationships can’t be compared bc Qiushi in all seriousness refused to continue living without his husband (and he would have killed himself after the revenge for real) and they overall just unhealthily crazy about each other and “I get it I get it now, I’m sorry I’m sorry I won’t ever force you to continue living if I die” is not normal and might be a bit horrifying… but that was so intense, I was expecting something intense here too.

But this reunion is so meh.. idk. I wish they address this more. I can’t imagine anyone not being mad at this. Like sure yeah, at first kiss him, hug him, it’s understandable, but hello… you freaking BURIED HIM! You cannot be serious about just letting it slide so easily.

I guess I’m just a sucker for emotions and I feel like they underplayed a lot of things. like many climaxes were ruined in the series (I don’t mean their other climaxes, all is great with those lol).

I honestly need to stop expecting too much, bc lately I always expect some intense moments in which the suspense will pay off and everything kinda deflates like a balloon at the end. this must be a me problem. I’m lately always sitting after like “so.. that’s it? ok”

Yeah romcoms are great to watch too I love both light things and dramas equally depending on the mood, but you gotta fit the series to the couple and this one is just such a fail to me, like clearly it’s not their lane. It just doesn’t work.

And also at first I thought it would be good bc they said it was their dream to do a silly cooking romcom, sounded awesome, but I feel really zero soul being put in this creation, it’s just how comes it’s so freaking dull?? This doesn’t look like someone’s dream series, more like someone forced them into it, it’s a weird feeling tbh

People can say whatever, but this honestly just proves my point. I’ve always said that such type of series (I can’t quite put it in one word but like you know those “classic” Thai dumbass romcom types) are actually not the indication of how good or bad someone’s acting skills are. Bc even experienced actors could look kinda dumb like they haven’t been acting at all in their lives in those.

Like in all seriousness I’m 100% sure would that not be offgun here, ppl would have already written long ass essays how they’re bad actors and they need acting classes as they do for many others.

I’m not saying this to diss anyone btw, I love them to death. I’m just saying that I once said that you can’t know whether someone is a bad actor or not just by acting in these types of things. The amount of ppl who can pull this off is really low. And at times they end up (in opposite) not very good at some dramatic shows instead. Some say that good actors are only those who can play in anything, but I really strongly disagree. I truly think that some things are just aren’t fit for some actors and that is okay. I don’t see the need to shove yourself in those. There are plenty of other versatile roles that you can explore. It’s okay to want to try tho ofc.

I just really think that playing in these is a certain skill you either have or you don’t and you can’t train it. Like a special talent. Some just need to accept that they don’t have it. It’s like Leonardo DiCaprio wouldn’t be able to fit into some of Jim Carrey roles. That is totally fine. Doesn’t mean he’s a bad actor lol.

And that is mostly in my opinion on directors, screenwriters and casting ppl tbh. Most times actors can’t see it from the side, so it’s your job to make right choices when it comes to roles, characters, atmosphere etc to make it feel right with these actors no matter what the genre is. In this case I really don’t feel like anyone cared really, I’m sorry.

yeah it’s just not what I dreamt it to be (which is my fault totally lol). I’m more of a deep characters/deep relationships/deep plot kinda person, I’m not into many stuff happening just for the sake of it happening, even tho I know many find it entertaining. I just imagined in my head smth else since the whole story about past lives started

about many accepting romance based on less is very true, I’m just not in that category as I said, that’s why I rarely find stories to connect with