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I feel like her intention/motivation right after she remembers him as a kid she once saved was for him to care for her. Her motivation as of now is more selfish in fact since she wants love and warmth from GT where she could be jealous of ST and GT's normal livelihood. She wants to be apart of that and live normally like a normal individual. I certainly do think she wants GT to be happy similar to how ST take cares of his dinosaur, the writer consistently links ST acting quite similar to how MY would act where they think of dinosaur/GT as being pretty etc. They rely on others but also care for them too.

At first, before MY even know him as living in the same building as Ju-ri, she already wanted to visit his place and I suspect she would also ask him to stay with her regardless whether Ju-ri is there or not. Because to her, the rented place is shabby and small where she quoted it as, "So you can use this room for eating, sleeping and relieving yourself., everything in one room" Ju-ri did serve as a "motivator" to further want GT out of that home but I believe she would want him to stay with her regardless.

Regarding as to whether the healing is on purpose, it is more of a natural flow type of deal where they are still living normally but MY try to be around GT more and get herself involved with his life. Since she always envy that type of love they had as seen when she stares at GT having fun with Ju-ri and her mom.

She freaking out is almost link to her disorder so she naturally can't understand "no" for an answer even when she and ST already signed an agreement that is actually beneficial to ST. Not sure if you have seen episode 6 fully but the complex relationship was already unfold between them where they now know each other as childhood crushes. Hence, they are revealing their past albeit slowly and I can see MY being less toxic as she would with actions like giving blankets to ST during his sleep. She is flawed and I have a gut feeling she will be mend back into a much healthier individual, just like that flashback scene of her as a child trying to meet the little GT that wants to hand her flower at the mansion gates but due to her mother telling her to stop meeting the boy, she had to step on the flower and tell GT to never see her again.

I recommend you give the drama a try since to me, it is quite different from typical kdrama out there and I enjoy it personally.

Well, it isn't confirmed yet other than that one reporter's claim so he could just be making rumors up in an attempt to gain attention. We all know how the media like to report false news or have click-bait contents so for now, best to not trust thus source unless there is more reporters/news regarding this topic.

Seems like everyone here have dislike Ju-ri even though I felt like she doesn't deserve the "dislike" as much because to me, she is definitely a normal person through showing that behavior of hers due to how she have a huge crush on Kang Tae in the first place. I don't believe in that fact that having your crush be stolen in front of your eyes is something you can not feel extremely annoyed about especially when the person doing the stealing was considered a "bully" to Ju-ri during her childhood years in some sense. She could be "two-faced" but that is how human is, we act differently in front and behind the scenes.

Previous episode ago she did questioned herself more times about whether she is allowing her personal feelings of "dislike/hatred" towards Mun Yeong affect her work and whether she looked petty for doing something like that which goes to show that she has no mental illness since a normal functioning human have their own thoughts about consequences and it display mostly of her being "selfish".

The car scene where she was angry towards other cars etc when her mother is with her is to me another prove that the actress understand her character well because my sister in real life share the same mindset as her and the things Juri said matches the idea of what my own sister would say. (Obviously my sister is the most sane person out there) To explain my point, the reason why Ju-ri at first didn't want to talk about it but instead showed anger at the world is that she couldn't bear to scold her mother out like that even though she was angry at her. Ju-ri/my irl sister always have this same thought which is, "because you are my mom so I can only accept you." Ju-ri thought in her mind that she would staple her mom mouth with the emphasis that "if only you weren't my mom". This is a normal reaction that I expect asian families tend to have when arguments arises but because blood is thicker than water so they could only released their anger elsewhere and through thinking about it without committing the actual act. It's like how "if you weren't my mom, I would have not care what happened to you whether or not you are homeless or sick" kind of mentality. She could not get angry at her mom directly so she has to released it somehow through other means.

Episode 6 have a hidden saying where, "Only those that is once broken can understand the thought's of another broken individual" While she is very possessive and the things she can do can be done by someone else such as the professionals, KT is in that state (before he met MY) where he is a caregiver a psychiatric ward which deals with Mentally ill patients everyday. From a relationship standpoint, she is definitely the last option anyone person would consider as a partner since the relationship would be toxic. But from a different view, she is actually opening up his wounds and rather than let it be scars, she is healing it. Her method of healing is considered "psychotic" but is also effective to some degree. Now imagine a scenario where he at the same time also cure her of her scars, would she remain fully as possessive as now? That we are not sure yet as we still need to see future episode but I felt that behavior like these can be corrected. Hence the keyword "Humanity healing".

@FactChecker Regarding the sexual harassment issue, before her hands were touching his abs, he have shown the correct, normal behavior where he grab her hand and prevents her from touching. Afterwards, GT basically "hugged" her with his naked body in an attempt to try and get her out of that room. This lead to her hands being placed on his chest. Thus, not trying to normalize/justify her actions but we can see GT have this pattern where he corrects her behavior and showing what is right/wrong to a "patient" like KMY.

I feel like MY did consistently try to send the message across to GT through words, where she emphasized on him making his life revolved around his older brother when his older brother could "take-care" of himself. She talks about how he could have more "fun" with her rather than trying to prioritize making ends meet and over-working himself , constantly baby-sitting his hyung.

When you talked about trying to let professionals to their job instead of MY makes me question whether you truly understand the plot so far. GT is already a caretaker for a psychiatric ward where everyday he would meet the supposed professionals you mentioned but why didn't anyone discover/diagnose him with those problem and only MY could? It isn't that the professionals is incompetent but more so GT as a character is a normal on the outside but deeply inside has scars which is undetectable by others.

There is so many reason as to why he could not get the professional help he needs such as: 1. He has sang tae who is autistic so him being diagnosed with mental illness could lead to him losing his jobs thus no money for food/shelter. 2. He himself doesn't realize it as he believe in the fact that he needs to be strong for sang tae. 3. The scars within his heart does not actually affect him into performing acts of an mentally ill patient where he loses control over himself or have suicidal thoughts. 4. Only with MY did he realized up to this point in his life, he approach living in for a wrong purpose/manner. It's more of a realization.

While I can't fully make the judgement in determining the maturity of his hyung, there is real world studies on this topic of how age can affect autism which there is plenty of our there and this is just one of them: https://www.spectrumnews.org/opinion/adult-advancement/
which I highly recommend giving a read if you are interested to know more. In summary for those articles, those individual with autism does improve in their communication skills, cognitive abilities, mitigation of their own disorder and also how some of this patient is independent albeit it is in the minority but still possible. For Sang Tae to be so aware of how a camper van could help his brother in some ways and even thought about the idea shows his cognitive ability are not as "degraded" as you think.

If by being able to detect the true emotions of an individual could we then see a person's true character, there would not be betrayals/backstabbing/scam/crimes happening around the world among the "normal" society.

I don't actually support the kidnapping incident/sexual harassment/any other "crazy" acts nor do I believe in reality, a person with autism can be with a person with a personality disorder without supervision. But, didn't you see the scene where MY proclaimed GT as her safety pin between both her and ST? Weren't the exact same thing you said similar to that CEO guy who didn't believe a person with autism can be in the same house as a person with a personality disorder? The writer is aware of all this issue and is trying to solve it with her own flair. You could be taking things to literally which make your experience less enjoyable when you could have learnt from the morals/ideas behind their actions.

What was the solution? GT decide to stay with her and take care of them both. Even before this incident at the start of episode 5, didn't ST similarly attack GT since GT lied to him about having lumps on his face? I think you should give a read on understanding aggressive behavior in autism. It doesn't matter she drive a wedge between the two brothers since they are much more stronger in bond than having someone easily drive a wedge between them to begin with. The effect of the "wedge" you spoke off could actually open the eyes of GT and make him be aware himself as being selfish. In episode 5, GT spoke the line to MY where he does not belong to her nor does she own him. Now in episode 6, ST said the exact same thing back to GT. MY must have felt betrayed and now GT knows how much it hurts to have those words back at him. Thus, what goes around will come back to you.

I just hope that you saw more of the intricate details and the writers intention. When you talked about how a normal society scenario, people would call the police on the FL's kidnapping but does a normal kidnapper actually immediately tells the victim's family of the victim's whereabouts? Would the kidnapper not ask for a ransom? Also if ST was treated with respect and with a contract that has been read by the GT who acknowledge there not being a big issue nor any exploitation, then independence can be achieved and it is not normalizing this behavior since even the autistic patients deserves their own independence. With how simple the contract is, if the contract was supposed to be manipulative/exploitative, GT could easily have called the actual police if he wanted and sue her for the unlawful contract signing but because he knows it is not exploitative but rather benefitcial for ST, he approves of her action later on. https://www.autism.org.uk/professionals/training-consultancy/good-practice-guides/independence.aspx

Seems like everyone here have dislike Ju-ri even though I felt like she doesn't deserve the "dislike" as much because to me, she is definitely a normal person through showing that behavior of hers due to how she have a huge crush on Kang Tae in the first place. I don't believe in that fact that having your crush be stolen in front of your eyes is something you can not feel extremely annoyed about especially when the person doing the stealing was considered a "bully" to Ju-ri during her childhood years in some sense. She could be "two-faced" but that is how human is, we act differently in front and behind the scenes.

Previous episode ago she did questioned herself more times about whether she is allowing her personal feelings of "dislike/hatred" towards Mun Yeong affect her work and whether she looked petty for doing something like that which goes to show that she has no mental illness since a normal functioning human have their own thoughts about consequences and it display mostly of her being "selfish".

The car scene where she was angry towards other cars etc when her mother is with her is to me another prove that the actress understand her character well because my sister in real life share the same mindset as her and the things Juri said matches the idea of what my own sister would say. (Obviously my sister is the most sane person out there) To explain my point, the reason why Ju-ri at first didn't want to talk about it but instead showed anger at the world is that she couldn't bear to scold her mother out like that even though she was angry at her. Ju-ri/my irl sister always have this same thought which is, "because you are my mom so I can only accept you." Ju-ri thought in her mind that she would staple her mom mouth with the emphasis that "if only you weren't my mom". This is a normal reaction that I expect asian families tend to have when arguments arises but because blood is thicker than water so they could only released their anger elsewhere and through thinking about it without committing the actual act. It's like how "if you weren't my mom, I would have not care what happened to you whether or not you are homeless or sick" kind of mentality. She could not get angry at her mom directly so she has to released it somehow through other means.

Sure, let's end this conversation since everyone have their own ideals and viewpoint. I hope you enjoy this drama and thanks for explaining in a rational way of your opinion!

I just wish that rather than constantly nitpicking and making this "sexual harassment" into a much bigger case, please focus more on the core message of the drama itself. We are not flawless neither is the director. But an estimated 50 knetizen felt the need to complain toward the KCSS which is an organisation dealing with this is just making this issue to big till the drama could potentially be stopped when the actual message of the drama is always about trying to heal you. Depicting mental illness in ways you may not know or be aware of.

It is like the saying where a black ink drip onto a piece of white paper doesn't make the paper blacker but rather the paper is still 99% white. We would see the black dot and people would place 100% attention to that black dot itself when what should have been concentrated on is the empty part of the paper where we could add various colors instead to create a painting that is alive, incorporating the black dot(sexual harassment) into the whole picture with colors (proper reason and story-telling).

Please also acknowledge the fact that this is a fictional story driven drama. The character are not actually existing and just like in video games, we all know the violence shown is a big issue but didn't we also make the violence less of a deal than consistently pointed it out as being big? It is because we are certain that the individuals would realized there is a separation of fictional and reality which means they are self aware and intelligent to know violence is not welcomed in our society. Thus, games is still being developed with some even letting us play as the terrorist.

The statement linking everyone go out half-naked to touching women chest and male chest being the same and yet you mentioned that women would disagree with it shows that you take into consideration of the female's feeling/reaction to the situation. If you are for equality as you said, what is your take on female going out braless but with clothes on? Do you realized how the korean society perceived this matter? Please read up on the case of Sulli because she did exactly that trying to empower women and being free but criticism/hate from the community made her resort to her last means of escape. Do you know how much more issues that should be complaint about and yet they complaint on this drama for crimes that without thinking too much, even when there is a proper reasons that exist. It is not socially accepted for male to go half naked in public spaces but it is socially accepted for males to appear half naked in public media without any censorship XD.

My words could have made it sound less important but mostly because I am trying to say that there is so much more major issues with the whole kdrama industry such as murders, kissing without consent and adultery which never actually received any complaints when they are worst than what is depicted here and those moments does not even have the proper reason backing it up. As an example, in Itaewon Class, there was a scene where the FL kiss the ML as he was drunk and asleep without his consent.

As I try looking for articles complaining about this yet I see none. It goes to show that people maliciously targeted this drama and yet they chose to close one eyes to something I find even less romantic and more invasive. I preach about my point at how a male is able to go undressed and be filmed on camera whilst a women can't due to censorship. This is the double standard that we should be focusing on but society reaction to it is lackluster. A body is a body but in the case where if someone bump into my chest (without my consent) for example , I would not immediately shout "sexual harassment" and if it was a girl, the girl would definitely do so. So the fact is you must understand how that individual feel in the first place and what is their reaction.

If you want more clarification to my gender identity, I am a male for your information so the reason why I said it is the least inappropriate body part is because the most inappropriate body part would have been the genital area for a male. The chest can be consider not normal for people to touch which I do agree but not being normal doesn't mean it should be forbidden.

ML's reaction would be the most important here because you are now generalizing the entire male population as having their chest area be treated as an inappropriate area when clearly it is based on your own take/feelings. If you didn't notice more deeply that particular scene, the ML was the one who initiate the contact/hug in his naked body towards the FL, the FL by this point could scream sexual harassment since anyone seeing that moment would easily judge it as a naked man hugging a female. Now why don't I see anyone criticizing this point? Now the scene where she just place her palm on his chest area, isn't it because she was hugged by him which lead to such a close contact? Initially she wanted to touch his abs which he avoided and if he wanted to, he could quickly dress up and ran away to escape or call the police. But his reaction was to hug her naked instead?

I am not exactly sure you read my last paragraph since I am did say I don't justify sexual harassment. So to say it again, I don't think what the FL did was right and should not be replicated in modern society but because there are multiple reason which lead to this outcome such as 1. The ML was the one who hug her first 2. She was mentally ill with a disorder which gives her a twisted view on what is right or wrong. 3. Their relationship is no longer as abrupt nor strangers because they have met up a number of times and even talked/grab shoulders/wrist/hair. 4. The ML didn't think much of it and based on his reaction, he didn't think it warrants enough to sue her for her action. We must know that he also a caregiver who would consistently face uncomfortable situation where a patient may touch his body. In this case, he is well-aware that she is not mentally sound and almost treats her as a patient than a normal human being.

I was thinking there is that possibility of her mother being in that psych hospital so juri would know but then can you actually register the death of a person when they are still alive in a psych hospital? If it is possible, MY would have already registered her father's death since he is in the same hospital as the MY Mother. Especially at how MY hates her father just as she hates her mother. The critics in first episode also mentions that the mother pass away suddenly and that there is a book written as a posthumous work. The CEO also said that the mother have something happened to her in that mansion although he didn't complete the sentence. So the likelihood of the mother being dead is higher but the writer can try to write in your direction albeit I think it would be a plot hole if it went that direction.

There is still a chance that the mother could be alive but I believe she is alive in a more spiritual sense where she still haunts MY in her dreams and visions. Because the mother is shown to have drowned or died in that chamber in the mansion so it is conflicting if the mother indeed didn't die but that will also depend on how the writer want to write the story

Yeap, very true which is why I wanted the criticism to come after the drama completes so that the director can produce the episode without worries from being complained again.

I think it is most important to remember that in the same scene, Juri have not met MY for almost 20 years since childhood till current time as mentioned by MY. When MY talked about being an orphan, Juri assumed her mother was still alive and that because MY say her father is dead to her, Juri wanted to argue that MY had a mother which disqualify her from being an orphan since MY is old enough where she is not actually abandoned by her mother.

Wow. I didn't even notice this until you say so. Really is a foreshadow to MY and KT current relationship.

My take on the sexual harassment complaints are that since their arguments is about "double standards" and how if you reverse the role of the women touching a male's abs would be perceived negatively. Then, those that deemed it as so should have complain in the same scene about having the male nipples be exposed and this culture where censorship for male is so lax compared to women and how male have more freedom to not wear clothes in public spaces. Isn't that another double standards to judge for many other dramas out there? They are fine with having less censorship for male in terms of physical appearance and yet female censorship is so strict. There is also that fact that other drama had glorify serial killers, kissing without consents and adultery being shown but for there to be a lack of criticism for those whilst this drama has a female lead touching the one of the least inappropriate body part to a male (where previously, the two leads had already been touching each other's body parts like the shoulders, wrist and head).

The most important point is that they missed out on the core idea where this drama is about an exploration to "mental illness and disorder". Do they not realized that writer intend to show that these individuals does not always exactly know from what is right and wrong? Just like how in the first episode regarding the father and daughter story and how sang tae was during the autograph signing process, we already can see inkling of how mental illness and disorder can affect the minds to not think sensibly.

I am not trying to justify the "sexual harassment action" but more so trying to say that it is not a very big deal in the right context unless the male lead inside the drama shows a reaction that is more uncomfortable and by then, the male lead would have immediately called the police as a proper procedure in "reality". It's the same analogy as how games portrays violence but you don't see people in reality going out gun blazing (Can we justify the violence shown? No and yet it still exist in games and without complaints because it is all fictional and the blame of perpetuating violent behavior in real life individuals would be their crime and not the game's fault) . If anyone face this exact situation in reality, then don't be worried and do what you feel is correct, report it to the police. Please just have less hatred for a "drama" and leave the complaints till the end of the drama airing. By then, you have free roam over how you want to criticize the drama.

I am really enjoying this drama and is waiting in anticipation for episode 5 and 6. I just hope that complaints by the knetizens won't be affecting the drama significantly as we need to see the original version they intended to get the best effect out from the writer's/director's intention!