There's very little to this. The dubbing with American voices is very mechanical and unnatural. In a way, the…
The 'dub' is actually just from YouTube's crappy new site-wide AI-dubbing 'feature,' which now (annoyingly) automatically appears on non-English videos posted there. You can switch the audio track back to the proper original one in each video's individual settings.
It's not about wearing makeup itself,but about a generals in the dramas paying attention to their look on a battlefield.its…
Really not sure why you seem to feel so obligated to try to defend this so hard, and it's unlikely that me continuing to argue will help since you have now apparently missed the original point I was making *twice* already, but what the hey, it's the weekend and I have a few minutes to waste, so I'll give this one last (likely futile) try:
Both my ORIGINAL comment - which, by the way, you responded to with a different argument of your own instead of addressing directly - as well as the entire last big long paragraph of my second comment, were simply pointing out the utter stupidity of the 'masculinity' garbage that was the closing quote in the article. Everything else was just a reaction to what you added.
Now, as to your second response here:
1-A: So, just because the producers cast someone who not only looks good but also is an exact match for how he's described in the source, the drama is suddenly doing 'anything' and having 'a low standard'? The article even says the guy's acting was praised; that doesn't sound like it's a 'low standard' to me.
1-B: As for that attempt at an offhanded little dig about personally 'liking' Chinese 'idol dramas' with 'unrealistic scenes,' I literally don't even know anything about any Chinese idols at all except for that poor man who some CCP members apparently m*rd*red horrifically a little while back, plus a couple of guys who managed to make their way into the K-pop industry; I really couldn't care less about whether something is supposed to be an 'idol drama' or not. However, even if I did, attempting to discredit an argument by demeaning the arguer is a well-known logical fallacy, and would be counted as an instant defeat for that side's argument if used in any formalized debate setting. Lucky for you, though, we're just pointlessly arguing over this nonsense on the internet instead, eh? π
1-C: I'm sorry, but this whole argument is just silly. No, and I repeat it again, *NO* drama-- no matter how 'historical'-- is EVER going to be 100% ACCURATE. That is why it's called 'historical FICTION.' If it was 100% accurate, it would literally just be a documentary. And if people wanted that, then that's what they'd watch. But no, they want it DRAMATIZED. Which, obviously, is *inherently* going to involve at least SOME artistic license.
2: Oh, I read the whole thing. And I never said that I thought that the actors had to look 'ugly' now. π However, since we're on the subject of reading what was actually in the article, here's another choice quote from up there: "The most basic requirement is that 'what is portrayed should be true to what it is [realistic].'" So let's do a little thought experiment and follow that line of logic to its end: I don't see any real Chinese people flying hundreds of feet through the air to land softly and gracefully thanks to their spiritual qi (or whatever), so are they going to stop making action and wuxia shows now too because those are so 'unrealistic'? . . . I mean, you *can* see how ridiculous that entire line of argument is, right? Well, it's the same with any other drama. Dramas are not real life. Dramas are a form of art.
3: LOL. (LMAO, even.) This is literally the first time in my life I'm ever hearing someone complain about an adaptation sticking *TOO* close to its source material!! π (Rather, people always rant about adaptations not sticking close *enough.*) So I guess this particular point is at least an original argument, I'll give you that... (Not a logical one, but certainly original...) ππ
4 (and 1-D): Mate... China has had *plenty* of famous beautiful men (with and without makeup) throughout their real history - including both skilled martial artists and, yes, even actual generals! π€¦ββοΈ So, again, I'm sorry but this this entire line of argument is just silly.
Finally: Yes, certain strains of Cnetz are notorious all over the web for blowing up over absolutely nothing. However, an extremely vocal minority does not a majority of an audience make. And, anyway, I wasn't ever talking about the general Chinese populace, but rather just all this stupidity being handed down by the CCP.
Anyway, back to my original-original point one last and final time: One would think that the CCP would be too busy with their other 3,597~ human rights abuses to bother with something as trivial as policing how an actor looks in a drama, but I guess when you run out of big categories of stuff to tyrannize people with, all that's left is the minutiae... π€·ββοΈ
It's not about wearing makeup itself,but about a generals in the dramas paying attention to their look on a battlefield.its…
π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ Look, mate...
First of all, we're talking about fictitious DRAMAS here, not historical documentaries.
Second, even if actors are banned from wearing nice makeup, that won't have anything to do with 'realism' in the first place because it isn't going to change how blatantly UN-realistic tons of other stuff in these types of dramas are (yes, even the 'historical' ones).
And third, the dude in question in this article was clearly cast (and made up) to look EXACTLY how the ACTUAL SOURCE portrayed him (there's literally a side-by-side image of this in the article up above), so anyone complaining about how he looks should have their beef with the original author, not the drama's actors or production/makeup crew.
(Though, again, this whole thing is eminently stupid in the first place. If you know anything about human history at all, you'll know that any 'standards' of 'masculinity' [or 'femininity'] are entirely sociocultural and vary WILDLY across both cultures and time; everything ranging from colors to clothing choices to makeup to an enormous amount of other things beyond that that is considered 'feminine' by some major cultures today used to be considered completely 'masculine' by sometimes even that same culture [no less other cultures] in antiquity, and vice versa. The CCP has no 'right' to say that anything is definitively non-'masculine,' now or at any other time in the past, nor should they be dictating something as ridiculously trivial as the amount of makeup actors wear, of all things. [Do the CCP members really have so little other work to do?] Them suddenly being deathly afraid of beautiful men at random, and basically calling them 'non-masculine' [when, again, that is not only not true but also just plain stupid in the first place], certainly makes one wonder what they're overcompensating for...)
"The 'generals' in costume dramas wearing makeup cannot bear the social responsibility of embodying masculine vigor"??? WTF is that load of garbage?? First of all, some of the most 'masculine' men I know not only do wear makeup but look absolutely stunning in it, and second of all, men have traditionally worn makeup for literally thousands of years across various cultures-- including IN CHINA... π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ
Excellent music, fantastic directing, tons of clever and fun homages to both Japanese anime and old classic American animation, hilarious humor, great message, and quite frankly a better Disney-style storyline than most actual Disney movies lately. It's basically the perfect movie. Loved it!
I'm sorry but I just could not take this seriously when right off the bat both actors for the main couple looked like they were 12 years old at most, plus the one was hired as a security guard with no qualifications whatsoever...? π
Note that if you watch the "Full Compilation" version of this on GND's official YouTube channel, it includes the original "Close To You: Riding A Bicycle" episodes right in there in the correct chronological order (and that version also puts them all into a movie format, credits only at the very end), so no more need to skip around the channel to get the whole story! :) Link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_ZvGlqGLXc
LOL... anyone in the comments below who is complaining about the kissing in this has clearly not sat themselves through a multitude of Korean and Japanese series (both BL and straight) that have tried to pass off barely-there dead-fish lip-touches for a 'kiss' like I have, because the kisses in this show were *not* that; in fact, they were actually surprisingly decent for two guys who are both still active K-Pop idols.
Regardless, overall, this is one of the better reels series for sure.
No idea why this has such a low rating and negative-sounding comments when this both looks better and is acted better than a huge chunk of other similar short-form BL's, lol... π€·ββοΈ
HiDid the one groom leave the wedding and unalive himself? His memorial photo is when he was young like at the…
No, the memorial photo shows him in some sort of either military or police uniform, so it's most likely implying that he died during his duties in one of those.
Ha, I LOVE the fact that they literally had Charn bring up every single logical objection to certain plot points that viewers might have, and then have the monk handily explain them! ππ»
Both my ORIGINAL comment - which, by the way, you responded to with a different argument of your own instead of addressing directly - as well as the entire last big long paragraph of my second comment, were simply pointing out the utter stupidity of the 'masculinity' garbage that was the closing quote in the article. Everything else was just a reaction to what you added.
Now, as to your second response here:
1-A: So, just because the producers cast someone who not only looks good but also is an exact match for how he's described in the source, the drama is suddenly doing 'anything' and having 'a low standard'? The article even says the guy's acting was praised; that doesn't sound like it's a 'low standard' to me.
1-B: As for that attempt at an offhanded little dig about personally 'liking' Chinese 'idol dramas' with 'unrealistic scenes,' I literally don't even know anything about any Chinese idols at all except for that poor man who some CCP members apparently m*rd*red horrifically a little while back, plus a couple of guys who managed to make their way into the K-pop industry; I really couldn't care less about whether something is supposed to be an 'idol drama' or not. However, even if I did, attempting to discredit an argument by demeaning the arguer is a well-known logical fallacy, and would be counted as an instant defeat for that side's argument if used in any formalized debate setting. Lucky for you, though, we're just pointlessly arguing over this nonsense on the internet instead, eh? π
1-C: I'm sorry, but this whole argument is just silly. No, and I repeat it again, *NO* drama-- no matter how 'historical'-- is EVER going to be 100% ACCURATE. That is why it's called 'historical FICTION.' If it was 100% accurate, it would literally just be a documentary. And if people wanted that, then that's what they'd watch. But no, they want it DRAMATIZED. Which, obviously, is *inherently* going to involve at least SOME artistic license.
2: Oh, I read the whole thing. And I never said that I thought that the actors had to look 'ugly' now. π However, since we're on the subject of reading what was actually in the article, here's another choice quote from up there: "The most basic requirement is that 'what is portrayed should be true to what it is [realistic].'" So let's do a little thought experiment and follow that line of logic to its end: I don't see any real Chinese people flying hundreds of feet through the air to land softly and gracefully thanks to their spiritual qi (or whatever), so are they going to stop making action and wuxia shows now too because those are so 'unrealistic'? . . . I mean, you *can* see how ridiculous that entire line of argument is, right? Well, it's the same with any other drama. Dramas are not real life. Dramas are a form of art.
3: LOL. (LMAO, even.) This is literally the first time in my life I'm ever hearing someone complain about an adaptation sticking *TOO* close to its source material!! π (Rather, people always rant about adaptations not sticking close *enough.*) So I guess this particular point is at least an original argument, I'll give you that... (Not a logical one, but certainly original...) ππ
4 (and 1-D): Mate... China has had *plenty* of famous beautiful men (with and without makeup) throughout their real history - including both skilled martial artists and, yes, even actual generals! π€¦ββοΈ So, again, I'm sorry but this this entire line of argument is just silly.
Finally: Yes, certain strains of Cnetz are notorious all over the web for blowing up over absolutely nothing. However, an extremely vocal minority does not a majority of an audience make. And, anyway, I wasn't ever talking about the general Chinese populace, but rather just all this stupidity being handed down by the CCP.
Anyway, back to my original-original point one last and final time: One would think that the CCP would be too busy with their other 3,597~ human rights abuses to bother with something as trivial as policing how an actor looks in a drama, but I guess when you run out of big categories of stuff to tyrannize people with, all that's left is the minutiae... π€·ββοΈ
First of all, we're talking about fictitious DRAMAS here, not historical documentaries.
Second, even if actors are banned from wearing nice makeup, that won't have anything to do with 'realism' in the first place because it isn't going to change how blatantly UN-realistic tons of other stuff in these types of dramas are (yes, even the 'historical' ones).
And third, the dude in question in this article was clearly cast (and made up) to look EXACTLY how the ACTUAL SOURCE portrayed him (there's literally a side-by-side image of this in the article up above), so anyone complaining about how he looks should have their beef with the original author, not the drama's actors or production/makeup crew.
(Though, again, this whole thing is eminently stupid in the first place. If you know anything about human history at all, you'll know that any 'standards' of 'masculinity' [or 'femininity'] are entirely sociocultural and vary WILDLY across both cultures and time; everything ranging from colors to clothing choices to makeup to an enormous amount of other things beyond that that is considered 'feminine' by some major cultures today used to be considered completely 'masculine' by sometimes even that same culture [no less other cultures] in antiquity, and vice versa. The CCP has no 'right' to say that anything is definitively non-'masculine,' now or at any other time in the past, nor should they be dictating something as ridiculously trivial as the amount of makeup actors wear, of all things. [Do the CCP members really have so little other work to do?] Them suddenly being deathly afraid of beautiful men at random, and basically calling them 'non-masculine' [when, again, that is not only not true but also just plain stupid in the first place], certainly makes one wonder what they're overcompensating for...)
Regardless, overall, this is one of the better reels series for sure.
(I mean, I did like the one-take-esque/stage-play style of filming, and it's acted well. Tragedy is just not my cup of tea, though. π )