to answer your first question, (in the manhwa and drama) Jooha went through an accident which made it difficult…
Ah!! Thank you so much. The backstory from the manhwa helps a lot. It sounds like, rather than Siyeol having a crush on Jooha, he only feels guilty toward him.
And your translation of the dialogue from the scene I mentioned makes much more sense. I appreciate your help.
Ep 4 - I'm confused about a couple of things. Please clear some questions up for me.
My understanding of the relationships is as follows:
Manager Kyusung (aka Gyu Seong, according to MDL) is dating actor Jooha (aka Ju Ha, according to MDL)
Idol Siyeol has a crush on Jooha, but can't say anything.
Siyeol overhears Kyusung talking on the phone to someone named Na Aejoon, and misunderstands when he hears Kyusung say "I love you" to Na Aejoon. He thinks Kyusung is cheating, not realizing that Kyusung and Na Aejoon are just comfortable friends who can say that to each other without it being romantic. (EDIT: after watching Ep 5 - it turns out they're actual cousins, not just friends.)
Then suddenly, Kyusung dumps Jooha, who, very sad and upset, then calls Siyeol.
Siyeol is unhappy to know Jooha is hurting and drives to Kyusung's place to talk to him about why he broke up with Jooha.
But when he arrives, he sees a guy coming out of Kyusung's apartment and overhears Kyusung call the guy "Na Aejoon." He realizes it's the same Na Aejoon that Kyusung said "I love you" to on the phone.
So Siyeol mistakenly thinks he's witnessing the aftermath of Kyusung and Na Aejoon having been together. (EDIT: at this point in the story, Siyeol does not know that Kyusung and Na Aejoon are actually cousins.) So Siyeol thinks that's why Kyusung dumped Jooha.
After Na Aejoon walks away, Kyusung calls Siyeol, and Siyeol says "You can't do this to Jooha. WE can't do this to Jooha."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FIRST QUESTION: Why does Siyeol say "WE can't do this to Jooha?" How is Siyeol doing anything to Jooha, in that situation? I don't get that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then Siyeol decides to get revenge by using Na Aejoon because he mistakenly thinks Na Aejoon is the reason Kyusung dumped Jooha.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SECOND QUESTION: Why does Siyeol's internal dialogue then say "Jooha. I'll let you experience the same feeling of betrayal. I'll make you feel more pain?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought Siyeol had a crush on Jooha, and even if they weren't together, he wanted Jooha to be happy (as he said in some earlier internal dialogue in another scene)? I thought he was upset with Kyusung for dumping Jooha?
Why would Siyeol suddenly want to hurt Jooha and cause him pain?
Shouldn't Siyeol be wanting to hurt Kyusung, instead? In deciding to get revenge by pursuing Na Aejoon, wouldn't he be trying to hurt Kyusung?
Did whomever translated the subs mean to say "Kyusung. I'll let you experience the same feeling of betrayal. I'll make you feel more pain," but mistakenly typed the name "Jooha" in that part?
So many tears running down my cheeks right now. Wow.
Even though they're fictional, I find myself hoping that if there is another life after this one, they find each other again under much happier circumstances. They truly have a love for the ages.
If anyone has read the novel, I have a question: does Chan like Kheem? Because I'm confused. There are many moments…
I noticed Chan's long looks at Khem, too.
Chan has shown that he's got some natural ability for magic (for one thing, his incredible sense of direction when people are lost - he "senses" where they are). I'm wondering if he's looking at Khem like that because he can sense something about him, but isn't sure he should say anything.
Ep 5 - did anyone else but me think the scene where the elderly lady was helping the villagers call their vital force was rather beautiful? Her voice was so melodic and soothing.
I just started watching episode 1. I have some questions. If it’s in the series please kindly tell me to go…
1) I don't remember the answer to this one.
2) Car accident
3) In had the visions starting when he was younger, before his parents died. His mom also had the visions, so he seems to have inherited it from her. Beyond that, I don't remember anything else being explained about why he and his Mom both had them.
4) Tul, In and Dao went to university together. Not sure how long they knew each other before that. Tul isn't around much in the first few episodes, but he shows up later in the series, so you'll learn more about his character then.
I love that some moments in this series seemed unscripted, but were so perfect in their own small way that the director didn't cut them out of the scene.
Ep 6 - for instance, the scene around the 26:51 time stamp, where In is sitting in the rocking chair, and suddenly Thap gets up, straddles In's lap with a little grin on his face and starts kissing him. The actor, Sea, genuinely seemed caught off guard and giggled, then kissed back, but ended up using the drink bottle he was holding to block the rest of the kiss.
It feels unscripted, but it's such a lovely moment and fits perfectly.
I enjoyed the Thai version very much, and I'm enjoying the Japanese version, too. Of course they are not exactly the same. I'm glad, too. But there are enough similarities to keep me hooked.
Plus, I like the Japanese actors as well, especially Kunigami Masato. And Nishime Shun is a good Japanese equivalent to Peat's character, Rak, in the Thai version.
In Ep 5, the scene where Kaishin, with one tear rolling down his face, asks Ai to stay, and then Ai agrees and they kiss very tenderly, was one of my favorites.
I might have to stop watching this series (and some others), even though it's close to the end.
Being a Westerner, I simply cannot understand one's complete subservience to parents / elder family members to the point where you and your wants / needs / dreams / plans for your own life completely disappear.
You are not you anymore. Maybe you never were.
All you ARE is nothing but a vessel for THEIR unrelenting expectations, THEIR unrelenting demands, THEIR unrelenting criticisms of your life, THEIR unrelenting need to project everything onto you, THEIR unrelenting and mercilessly grinding sense of we-must-continue-the-traditional-way-or-everything-will-collapse-and-it-will-be-all-YOUR-fault.
The worst part is watching the younger characters continually GIVE IN to all of that ^^^^^^ over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and NEVER standing up for themselves. Even though it's a fictional story, I find myself grinding my teeth, clenching my hands and feeling my blood pressure rise.
And more than once, I have actually (no kidding) pounded the table with my fist and yelled "SAY SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!! DON'T JUST STAND THERE!!!!!!!!!!"
Ugh.
(I do not apply this same standard to series that are set in historical times. Only to ones set in modern times.
While, in the historical ones, I LOVE me some characters that do stand up for themselves, I recognize the consequences for that kind of defiance back in those eras could be / would most likely be severe if not life-threatening.)
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And your translation of the dialogue from the scene I mentioned makes much more sense. I appreciate your help.
My understanding of the relationships is as follows:
Manager Kyusung (aka Gyu Seong, according to MDL) is dating actor Jooha (aka Ju Ha, according to MDL)
Idol Siyeol has a crush on Jooha, but can't say anything.
Siyeol overhears Kyusung talking on the phone to someone named Na Aejoon, and misunderstands when he hears Kyusung say "I love you" to Na Aejoon. He thinks Kyusung is cheating, not realizing that Kyusung and Na Aejoon are just comfortable friends who can say that to each other without it being romantic. (EDIT: after watching Ep 5 - it turns out they're actual cousins, not just friends.)
Then suddenly, Kyusung dumps Jooha, who, very sad and upset, then calls Siyeol.
Siyeol is unhappy to know Jooha is hurting and drives to Kyusung's place to talk to him about why he broke up with Jooha.
But when he arrives, he sees a guy coming out of Kyusung's apartment and overhears Kyusung call the guy "Na Aejoon." He realizes it's the same Na Aejoon that Kyusung said "I love you" to on the phone.
So Siyeol mistakenly thinks he's witnessing the aftermath of Kyusung and Na Aejoon having been together. (EDIT: at this point in the story, Siyeol does not know that Kyusung and Na Aejoon are actually cousins.) So Siyeol thinks that's why Kyusung dumped Jooha.
After Na Aejoon walks away, Kyusung calls Siyeol, and Siyeol says "You can't do this to Jooha. WE can't do this to Jooha."
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FIRST QUESTION: Why does Siyeol say "WE can't do this to Jooha?" How is Siyeol doing anything to Jooha, in that situation? I don't get that.
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Then Siyeol decides to get revenge by using Na Aejoon because he mistakenly thinks Na Aejoon is the reason Kyusung dumped Jooha.
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SECOND QUESTION: Why does Siyeol's internal dialogue then say "Jooha. I'll let you experience the same feeling of betrayal. I'll make you feel more pain?"
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I thought Siyeol had a crush on Jooha, and even if they weren't together, he wanted Jooha to be happy (as he said in some earlier internal dialogue in another scene)? I thought he was upset with Kyusung for dumping Jooha?
Why would Siyeol suddenly want to hurt Jooha and cause him pain?
Shouldn't Siyeol be wanting to hurt Kyusung, instead? In deciding to get revenge by pursuing Na Aejoon, wouldn't he be trying to hurt Kyusung?
Did whomever translated the subs mean to say "Kyusung. I'll let you experience the same feeling of betrayal. I'll make you feel more pain," but mistakenly typed the name "Jooha" in that part?
Please help me understand, thanks.
https://news.az/news/chinese-actor-alan-yu-reportedly-dies-after-fall-in-beijing
Even though they're fictional, I find myself hoping that if there is another life after this one, they find each other again under much happier circumstances. They truly have a love for the ages.
How in the world did we wait this long for this series, and yet the fight scenes are SO BADLY CHOREOGRAPHED???
I mean, I actually laughed out loud. And I'm sure that's not the reaction the director was hoping for.
And honestly, I'm wondering where the chemistry that Boun and Prem USED to have in Between Us went.
Am I the only one that feels like they're just not connecting in Revamp?
Chan has shown that he's got some natural ability for magic (for one thing, his incredible sense of direction when people are lost - he "senses" where they are). I'm wondering if he's looking at Khem like that because he can sense something about him, but isn't sure he should say anything.
Just a guess.
2) Car accident
3) In had the visions starting when he was younger, before his parents died. His mom also had the visions, so he seems to have inherited it from her. Beyond that, I don't remember anything else being explained about why he and his Mom both had them.
4) Tul, In and Dao went to university together. Not sure how long they knew each other before that. Tul isn't around much in the first few episodes, but he shows up later in the series, so you'll learn more about his character then.
Ep 6 - for instance, the scene around the 26:51 time stamp, where In is sitting in the rocking chair, and suddenly Thap gets up, straddles In's lap with a little grin on his face and starts kissing him. The actor, Sea, genuinely seemed caught off guard and giggled, then kissed back, but ended up using the drink bottle he was holding to block the rest of the kiss.
It feels unscripted, but it's such a lovely moment and fits perfectly.
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/netflix-series-actor-alleged-girlfriend-arrested-after-caught-marijuana-shimizu-hiroya-tokyo-revengers/
Plus, I like the Japanese actors as well, especially Kunigami Masato. And Nishime Shun is a good Japanese equivalent to Peat's character, Rak, in the Thai version.
In Ep 5, the scene where Kaishin, with one tear rolling down his face, asks Ai to stay, and then Ai agrees and they kiss very tenderly, was one of my favorites.
I might have to stop watching this series (and some others), even though it's close to the end.
Being a Westerner, I simply cannot understand one's complete subservience to parents / elder family members to the point where you and your wants / needs / dreams / plans for your own life completely disappear.
You are not you anymore. Maybe you never were.
All you ARE is nothing but a vessel for THEIR unrelenting expectations, THEIR unrelenting demands, THEIR unrelenting criticisms of your life, THEIR unrelenting need to project everything onto you, THEIR unrelenting and mercilessly grinding sense of we-must-continue-the-traditional-way-or-everything-will-collapse-and-it-will-be-all-YOUR-fault.
The worst part is watching the younger characters continually GIVE IN to all of that ^^^^^^ over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and NEVER standing up for themselves. Even though it's a fictional story, I find myself grinding my teeth, clenching my hands and feeling my blood pressure rise.
And more than once, I have actually (no kidding) pounded the table with my fist and yelled "SAY SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!! DON'T JUST STAND THERE!!!!!!!!!!"
Ugh.
(I do not apply this same standard to series that are set in historical times. Only to ones set in modern times.
While, in the historical ones, I LOVE me some characters that do stand up for themselves, I recognize the consequences for that kind of defiance back in those eras could be / would most likely be severe if not life-threatening.)
I see now that it will get darker, so that's good. Looking forward to more episodes.