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That's where people get delusional. Put yourself in his shoes. If he had said he wanted nothing to do with her people would've said he's a douche, and that he could've said that in a nicer way. It's a no even if you're polite. His was a very direct "no", IMO.

He kinda did though. He said he was under the impression that it was clear that he had been showing interest in one girl only.
You obviously don't know Koreans. A Korean would never say it directly. It would've been immensely impolite, according to Korean standards, had he actually said it.

As a guy, I have no respect for people like Seung Yeon. You shot your shot babe, now get lost. No means no, even if it comes from a dude.

Let me summarize this for you guys: the show about nothing ends with the finale about...nothing 💀

Right...LOL

What amazes me about this show is that it is decently filmed and the actors are good-looking, but it lacks absolutely any substance whatsoever. It's basically about...nothing.

Yooo, hands down the best show this year. But honestly, based on what people are saying, I hope s2 strays from the webtoon story (I haven't read), and Soo Ho legit appears in it. Would be a waste if he didn't.

RainPayu 100/10
SkyPrapai...meh 7.5/10
The ending was rushed. Also they could've done something about the perpetrators. Like come on....🙄

For me, the first 7 episodes were like DAMN. The latter 6 were...let's say a decent spin-off, but definitely nothing that I was overly excited to watch. My bf actually kinda forced me to finish them cuz I dozed off during ep 8.

But I mean...bring back RainPayu and you got my attention back 😏😁

The acting skills are below zero. I mean please...that crying by Ping (Nhai) made me go "wtf am I even watching". My bf was literally rolling on the bed laughing hysterically, it was so dumb.

But the story is cute. Promising. Points for the fact that we didn't have to wait 11 episodes for them to barely kiss. I like people who aren't afraid to communicate openly, and go after what they want. I was almost about to drop this show, but it looks like I might give it a fighting chance...

With In you say....that honestly I would not have guessed, had you asked me. I wonder if it's truly autobiographical. If it is, at least his boy has an answer, if a belated one. You do need courage tho, to make a show like this based on your own experience, especially if you'd been in In's position. My bet for whose memories the story could be based on was on Wang. But perhaps In makes more sense. Wang would've probably told the story a bit differently...

LMAO Same. I hated that question. The beauty of art is that everyone can interpret it differently, as long as there is room for that interpretation.
Anyway, in my understanding it's nothing new, even today there are gay men who marry women, for various reasons. Usually because they need a cover for their actual sexual orientation 🙄🙄🙄 Don't even get me started on what I think about that 😒

I think it was implied that she had known Siam had feelings for In, and chose to pursue him regardless.

Ok, perhaps I worded it imprecisely. She does notice, but she doesn't care cuz she won & that's more important to her than his feelings. Also, I'm not sure she really knows he is suffering. She knows he isn't happy, but narcissist people lack the ability to sympathize with others and notice deep feelings. They only see what is blatantly obvious and in plain sight. E.g. if you tell them you are deeply depressed, they will acknowledge it, but if you go to a party with friends and stop actively communicating how depressed you still are (even if it happens the next day), they will just assume you're fine. They won't ask you if you're fine, like any healthy person would, they will just assume no visible signs of depression=no depression. That's because as long as something doesn't visibly affect their world, they don't notice it, they just don't care. And everything in how Mol's been portrayed points towards her being a narcissist.

Yep. Unfortunately. And I don't think it's only limited to people who "grew up in a different time", as you say...

It's not a BL show. It's a LGBTQ+ show. This series was not meant to entertain you, it was meant to send a message.

Of course she was talking, and haven't even noticed Wang's tears. This was very intentional, it was like a cheery on top, to emphasize exactly who she was. That's how the character was written. She was a narcissist. To her this ending was a happy ending, she got what she wanted. Narcissists don't care how anybody else feels, as long as they are content.

Definitely feels like it's based, at least loosely, on somebody's life experience.
Perhaps not the premise, nor the details of the plot, but definitely the different viewpoints presented by characters, and especially the message that the ending is sending feel very personal. As if somebody was trying to get the bitter moral of this story through to others, in order to avoid the scenario repeating itself.

As a gay man in my 20s who has always been fully at ease and proud of who I am, I feel very strongly for Wang's character, and whoever has had or has to face such problems in real life. This show hits hard, and makes me appreciate my life even more, makes me very grateful to have been brought up in a supportive environment, cuz honestly... it could've been me facing those problems. When I think about it, not that much separates me and Wang, in terms of character. Of course, there are some major differences - as my life path is completely different, and he's a fictional character and therefore we only get to see a small part of him - but we share many basic character traits, which is why this story feels even more raw to me. I have nothing but respect for Wang.

I know it's false hope, but I hope nobody has to go through anything similar going forward. Life is brutal, yo...

Well, I guess that answers the question LOL 🙄💀🤷🏻

Well, let me help you out here...

Re: Wang knowing where he was going.
Perhaps, perhaps not. I'm not fully convinced, even though TruthDares made an excellent point above. My interpretation of this monologue was a bit different. But even if Wang knew exactly where he was going, it was his mother who decided or agreed to stay there. Which is why, I don't really see your point.

I'm afraid that rather than my analysis of Wang's character not being on point, it's you probably lacking certain understanding of human psychology. A lot of children of narcissistic parents realize with time what their parents' problem is. And when they do, they learn that they can predict their parents' reactions and behavior. Hell, even I know what behavior to expect from the mother of my buddy in certain situations - it is so obvious. And my buddy, he can do it every single time. That doesn't make him any healthier, doesn't make him feel any better & doesn't make him any less abused. The damage is done over YEARS, and it is to self-esteem, self-confidence, and independence, not intelligence LOL

You like to totally ignore points that don't work for you, don't you? I gave you more than 3 arguments for why philosophy wasn't a bad choice for Wang - especially since originally he didn't want to graduate at all - but you decided to disregard them point blank, and instead focus on how philosophy won't make him money. Newsflash! Most people who have a degree in philosophy don't actually work as "philosophers" LMAO. There are so many jobs this degree is useful for, you can't even imagine. Besides, who says Wang wants or needs a lot of money, anyway? Lots of people decide on a certain major while fully aware that it won't make them a fortune. Not everybody's goal in life is to make a mountain of moola.
You know what my dad always says? "Do what you love, and if you are good enough at it money will come to you regardless of what it is" And yo, it's truuuuue.

You don't know what In will do. So stop deciding for him and the screenwriters. I don't see the point of your whole 3rd paragraph to be honest - it feels like you're going in circles. But again, you totally disregarded my point's about Wang's income. He can work himself, you know. That is also a thing for a 20yo LMAO Yoooo... I know a bunch of 20yos that make a better yearly income than their parents. And guess what...they don't have a degree either. Shocker!🙄💀

Family is a different thing for everybody. If you wanted to make a decision together with your family, out of respect for them - good for you. But guess what? It was YOUR DECISION to do so. Something you are refusing Wang - a right to his own decisions.
Please don't decide what family means for anybody other than you. To me family is not a responsibility, unless it is parents' responsibility towards their underage children. To me, family is unconditional love. How you choose to express it is your own decision. In my family, we choose to express it by supporting each other in finding our own paths in life. Not by butting into everybody's business.
A 20yo should be able to decide what family means to them. And most importantly, they should be allowed to make their life decisions for themselves. Period.

You know, it seems to me that you will never back down - probably because of your upbringing. I don't think anybody has ever shown to you that it is ok to admit to being wrong, or losing an argument. It can also show your strength.

That would be great. Fingers crossed.