Nah man. At this point, Hyewon is straight up gaslighting Hwihyun with her "it's all your fault" spiels and it…
EP 13 long rant again
WARNING: Yes, I will be a bit vicious about Hyewon in this because of the overwhelming hate that Hwihyun is getting. I had dropped the previous season because of the same way that a couple of characters would get hate when everyone was just human and grieving in their own way. I am only human as well so the online hate does color my lenses and make me more defensive over those who get one-sided hate (provided I actually have reasons) and more critical about those who are on the opposite side of the coin. Objectively, HW & HH are both understandable but subjectively, I am HH's side. Hope he is coping well against all the internet hate. It is an incredibly stressful thing.
Nah man. At this point, Hyewon is straight up gaslighting Hwihyun with her "it's all your fault" spiels and it is sad that it works, not just with him but also with the audience. If I had been Hwihyun at the end of ep 13, I would have done an about turn and went back to my room without a single word the moment Hyewon started whining and acting like she didn't want to talk to him after waking him up at freaking 5am. To hell with the ex at that point. But poor Hwihyun was successfully brainwashed to feel guilty over something that wasn't even his fault and he was trapped.
Time to play the Devil's advocate again because Hwihyun continues to get villainised - why does everyone keep forgetting that it was Hyewon who messed up their chances back in Seoul? She was just plain rude in their first meet interview, wasn't even serious in her ex letter, had been into Kwangtae, and completely ignored Hwihyun. And unlike Hyewon now, Hwihyun didn't even have the luxury to get even a little angry at her because he was drowning in guilt over his self-perceived incapability during their dating period and how it ended. Despite all of that, Hwihyun still kept sending her messages and was actually the one who first tried to strike up a conversation with Hyewon. HE EVEN ASKED HER OUT ON A DAMN PATBINGSU DATE! But even THAT wasn't enough for Hyewon and she kept messing up. Of course Hwihyun visibly, understandably, started to give up. For everyone saying oh he should just chase her if he wants her or completely cut her off if he doesn't - Hwihyun is just not that type of person. He just doesn't outright tell someone he likes them for fear of being burdensome and neither can he sternly cut them off early for fear of hurting them, not until things are set in stone. Just look at him with Seokyung and Sangjeong! How much more with his ex then! And everyone else is also in the same place that he is! Hyewon however, if she has the guts to go up to him and throw tantrums then she might as well use that energy to just chase him if she wants to. Either do that or just leave him the heck alone and go romance other people, ghosh! Whether he likes you or not has NOTHING to do with whether you like him or not, Hyewon! Man up and stop putting all the blame on him! If Hwihyun had done all the stuff that Hyewon is doing then everyone would have crucified him ten times over. Candy incident: ghosh, can't believe I have to revisit this but it was just some damn store bought candy. Not some Gucci candy, not even handmade candy, not even candy that had her name engraved on it! STORE. BOUGHT. PLAIN. CANDY. Of course Hwihyun didn't even remember it! He has no way of knowing what it meant to Hyewon because they don't get to hear each others' interviews! Just because she sent the candy to him in the ex package does not mean it means anything significant to her. They literally had nothing material that they gave or received from each other, look at their ex room. Hyewon was just lucky enough to have SOMEthing to send, from his perspective. He was still touched that she remembered such a seemingly insignificant thing, why he wanted to share and brag about it. Charming incident: he wasn't calling her physically unattractive. They had a conversation before this and it had seemed like they could now be on good enough terms to at least help each other out so he was merely commenting on how she isn't even trying to get with the other guys which they also obviously feel and in turn don't really want to approach her for dates. He was merely telling her that she was an otherwise really charming person and that she should go back to that, that she shouldn't let herself wallow too long and try and date other people. That is it. P.S. Had hated Hyewon's behavior in that scene. You just had one conversation, why the heck are you trying to play the push-and-pull game again with the same old "I hate you!" *eyeroll* What did you want him to do? Say sorry and kiss you alright like when you two dated? And a personal pet peeve but - don't touch his personal stuff (laptop)! You guys are not on those terms yet! Honestly, Hwihyun just looked uncomfortable in the whole scene and wanted her out, something I totally understand.
Phew, with that out of the way:
CJxDH - as much as I like them, it is clear as eps go by that CJ doesn't really like DH like that and is very much still into YJ. Which is a darn shame. Grow some brains, boy. YJ is too young and if she couldn't stay with you when your career was giving you a hard time, she ain't going to be staying through much else later either. DH too is only yoyo-ing because she can feel that CJ isn't going to choose her in the end. If CJ had been more set on her then DH would have moved from DJ quicker.
SKxHH - clubbing them together now because HH is set on SK while SK doesn't have anyone else. Man, HH really needs to forget about being burdensome and just go all in on expressing his feelings. His passiveness right now is not getting through to SK AT ALL and he will miss out on her if he doesn't become more direct with his affections. I feel like if HH was more direct then SK would definitely go over but that is asking too much from HH who is just not that kind of a person. SIGH. Also, don't want SK going back to KT. Please no. So HH do us all a favor and catch the girl. I want to see her having fun again cause it seems like it has been a long time since.
DJxHW - I have always been vocal about wanting to see them together and while it is great to see their development, all this HH drama makes me not want them together. Because HW is honestly just obsessed with HH and it seems like one call from him and she will go running. Not really a good sign for for forming any significant relationships that go beyond the show.
JWxJeongeun - Alright! I had been WAITING to see KT's ex. I have always also been vocal about finding JW and YJ boring and the rumors about this couple were the only thing keeping me afloat so.....can't wait! They are even rooming together! Let the sparks fly!
MH - have to say, I was quite surprised by how bold and direct he was. Sad he couldn't have entered the show with the other participants. He would have made things interesting.
SJ - yeeeah, she isn't coming out of this show with a boyfriend in tow. Hwihyun isn't into her at all and I don't think she can charm him over either. Neither is she getting with her ex. Neither is she into anyone else. Aigooo
KT - aw I felt a bit bad for him after the interview. To not be able to hear I love you and to hear I don't love you are two vastly different things and poor guy had to go through both. I have always felt like he kept propagating an image of himself that wasn't him at all due to some past trauma and ended up blundering quite bad. If he had just been genuine.....sigh. BTW, if JW gets together with his ex then it will be hilarious because JW & KT clash all the time. There was SK then YJ and now his ex. And JW always wins ROFLMAO. It is like KT lays down the foundation and then JW just whisks them away like it's no effort at all BWAHAHA
Sad that A-Si couldn't be a part of the family photo TT_TT
P.S. If there is a sequel then I hope that we see either A-Si and Keling move on with other people (BECAUSE A-SI IS ALSO FAMILY, OK!) or that Keling gets a different actress and a major rewrite if this pairing is going to be pushed because her character was the only weak link in this show and also why the last 4 or so eps were not as enjoyable as the rest of the show, because they focused more on her. She was just plain rude to him, we never see her actually care for him in some way but only bask in his affections cause it makes her feel good, and she couldn't even bother to have a proper conversation with him even after getting into a relationship. Neither could the actress bring out more depth from her. So yeah, totally didn't care for that romance, don't know why he likes her, and therefore couldn't care less about all their angst. Which is sad because the idea behind them is good. But as it stands, A-Si could do so much better.
The way I agree with every single thing you wrote is actually insane. I also want to see JW with someone else…
My how Kwangtae has fallen. Getting all the votes at the start of the show got to his head. I hope he redeems himself when his ex comes in cause otherwise.....eek!
she wasn't acting 'haughty' about it at all, that's such a rude thing to say. Did you read her whole text? The…
the haughty comment wasn't for the text but just some of her behavior earlier in the show. and yes I very much know what the text is. doesn't change the fact that it is still....a text.
It's not yj fault tho.. What's wrong with acting haughty lmao. It's 100% the fault of the extremely shallow men
Yeah.....as I said, the men were brainless sheep in this ep. Didn't say anything about that being YJ's fault. Me not getting YJ's appeal and the men being spineless are two different things that just happened to be compiled into one post is all 🤷♀️
Also nothing wrong with acting haughty. Doesn't mean I won't cackle when you end up eating your own words though LMAO
One of the reasons why I had been comparatively liking this show was the way that the men seemed to at least be choosing personality over looks for the most part but ep 10 had the men going back to being sheep and all bee lining for Yujung once they realized she wasn't so "out of league" BLEH. SK I could understand, especially with where everyone was at the time, but YJ? Especially now? Nah. Like DJ, what the HECK man?! She has shown sub-zero interest in you and your date was horrible. At least could have chosen SK if you were going to choose someone other than Hyewon *facepalm*
I like DH and CJ but I am not going to hope for them until more time has passed and CJ has interacted more with YJ who seems to have a weird hold over everyone. I didn't care much before but now, after the ex room, I really don't want CJ and YJ to get back together. Forget everything else, girl broke up over a text. NAH. CJ did right by not giving her the satisfaction of a reply for weeks *claps*
My need for KT's ex to come in and shake things up grows even more with each episode. Especially in regards to Juwon. I have said this before and I will say this again, I find YJ flat and boring, and their interactions stilted. I much prefer the ease with which DHxCJ and DJxHW interact, I find that to be the mark of a good possible couple. And I like Juwon so I want to see him getting swept off his feet. YJ ain't the one making that happen.
P.S. Felt quite satisfying when the ex thing finally started affecting YJ because she used to act a bit haughty about it all. Ha!
Ok, This comment is NOT meant to be a sane level-headed analysis so give me a break. This is purely to let off some steam because I was so frustrated by Hyewon and Hwihyun that I had to pause ep 9 at the 1 hour mark. And I am not one to get so involved into shows, let alone DATING shows, but they made me physically face palm more than once and even shout at my screen. They have such ridiculously bad timing that I would almost like to believe it is scripted.
1) (Disclaimer: I am NOT hating on DH & SJ or anything. I was just annoyed by the circumstances is all so please don't comment saying things like it's not their fault etc etc. I KNOW) I was first annoyed by Dahye and Sangjeong blocking off the kitchen. I know those girls meant well but this is a freaking dating show where everyone appears with their exes. There is no need to hide Hyewon's episode from the men! Not to mention, the rules don't say that only girls can comfort girls. They are all living under one roof and are friendly with each other. Men can also very well comfort women and vice versa. THIS ISN'T THE FREAKING 1800s. LET THE MEN COME IF THEY WANT. If it is her ex, they could have talked (AS HWIHYUN AND HYEWON COULD HAVE IF DAHYE AND SANGJEONG HADN'T BLINDLY INTERVENED). If it is someone else, maybe sparks could have flown while comforting her ARGGGGH
2) I was annoyed at Hwihyun for not making some kind of excuse and going up the staircase after Hyewon. The rules say you cannot make it obvious, THEY DON'T TELL YOU TO NOT INTERACT WITH YOUR EX AT ALL. Why the HECK would you wait until everyone's gone and YOU HAVE CLEANED THE ENTIRE DAMN LIVING ROOM. She would obviously have gone back into her room by then and you, mister, are obviously not going to go that far in ARGGGGH
3) I was annoyed at Hyewon for taking Hwihyun's words at face value when SHE HAD LITERALLY WOKEN HIM UP FROM DEEP SLEEP! GIRL FFS!!! WHY COULDN'T YOU WAIT?!!!! ASK HIM IN THE MORNING WHEN HE CAN HAVE A PROPER CONVERSATION!! YOU CANNOT WAKE HIM UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND EXPECT HIM TO BE SANE ENOUGH FOR LIVING, LET ALONE HAVING A DEEP CONVERSATION WITH HIS EX ARGGGGH
All of these are just silly misunderstandings that can be solved with just ONE simple conversation. But both of them are too timid. So yes, putting this on hold. Maybe for a few days, maybe until next week's eps, maybe until their little thing is over, or maybe until the end when I am sure that BOTH come out of the show with different partners. Cause the STRESS omg. I like Dongjin and Hyewon, loved their little moment in the house (best chemistry I have seen so far), but I don't want them to get together with so many unresolved misunderstandings still between Hyewon and Hwihyun ARGGGGH
P.S. The way that Dongjin said he loves the sound of Hyewon's laugh kyaaaaa
No one is hating DJ tho and it’s weird to say DH is fishing fame when she cries at every moment she even hears…
I never said her actions in the house are fishing for fame, I said that her choosing to appear on this is also as much for fame as it is for DJ. There's a difference. Her behavior in the house is very much valid and real, nobody's saying she is faking it. My point was that just because DH chooses to behave a certain way doesn't mean that DJ is obligated to reciprocate in the same manner. And yes, there's a lot of hate for DJ going around on the social streams I follow so
1) Don't know why everyone keeps saying that DHxDJ and JWxSK need to talk it out. The only couple who needs to talk it out is HWxHY because they have a lot of misunderstandings and unsaid feelings between them, having an honest conversation is very much needed and will help them. That's not the case for DHxDJ and JWxSK. The latter are just hung up on each other while the former has one party hung up on the other. "Talking it out" specifically is not going to help them in any way, they aren't going to magically move on with just one conversation.
2) Don't get all this hate for DJ. Just because DH is a woman and is crying does not automatically make DJ the bad guy. DH is a celebrity and is here to gain popularity. DJ is obviously the only guy she can recruit and she is also hung up on him so it is a win-win situation for her. Let's not turn her into a victim here. DJ being DJ would of course agree, as much for her as for himself. It is painfully clear how much he truly wishes for her to succeed, both in work and life. Meanwhile, he has had to love her secretly for 13 years. I don't think people realize the kind of mental and emotional strain that puts on someone, there's a reason why the panelists were shocked. That kind of thing is unimaginable. DJ has said that he couldn't even tell his close friends that he was dating. To have to verbally deny who you are at every turn, for so many years, oof! So this opportunity can serve as a farewell love letter to the him who silently, invisibly, gave his all, mind heart and soul, career and life, to someone for 13 long years. People keep bringing up the spam message comment but forget that DJ had earlier said that the problem he has with her messages is that they are meaningless. They read unserious and like a joke. She sent him a genuine message only once, I think on Day 3, and he appreciated it, but DH went right back to thoughtless messages after that. If she was going to do that then she might as well send it to someone new, maybe it could have started something. So yes, they very much are like spam. Then people hate on DJ because he isn't trying to have a conversation with her. Here's the thing, DH is tenacious. That's great when starting a relationship, not so much when you are trying to break it off. If DJ did try to talk to her, that would just fuel DH even more and DJ knows it. I have no doubt that if DH had been ready to move on then DJ would have been able to interact with her more and have a heart-to-heart. But as such, he is right back to having to bottle up his feelings because letting them out will just trigger DH.
3) Don't get all this hate for SK. I do find SK to be a slightly toxic lover from her actions with JW, but that's something that comes WAY later into a relationship and is certainly not relevant to any of her interactions with the men in the house. And while I also don't see what's so incredibly charming about her, I don't grudge the attention she is getting from the other men (unlike the other seasons), I have no idea why people are painting her out to be some kind of vixen, talking about her being too touchy, etc. This isn't the 1800s, people. All of her interactions with the men have been perfectly normal, with her being a bit more flirty with Kwangtae. None of her other actions have crossed the line. And if the other girls do get pissed off because of it, like the time with YJ and then with HW, that's a them problem not a her problem. She isn't at fault if the other men want to get to know her better because she has yet to approach anyone by herself, Kwangtae just happened to luck out with the first date pick.
4) Again, don't get all the hate for HH. He dumped HW due to his circumstances and now calls her back. He knows he was crap and feels guilty over it. HW too received him quite coldly at first. So there's no way that HH is going to approach HW first. He thinks she has moved on and doesn't want anything to do with him and he isn't the kind of trash who bulldozes through regardless. Plus, he has seen her flirt with Kwangtae. It is HW who is ruining their chances now with her extreme insecurity. Boy, she's a mess. She completely ruined it by not texting him on the fireplace day when they had only just managed to reciprocate each other's feelings through the texts the day before. That had been a decisive moment and she ruined it and worse, over absolutely nothing. HH has not been flirting with anyone in the house. Like, the boy is more concerned about his grades LMAO. So of course HH is going to think that the text before was a one time thing and stop himself from approaching her again, which will just worsen matters because....I guess she expects him to read her mind? Instead of just talking to him? And ep 9 promises a breakdown on HW's end.....cause of her own actions. It is not that I don't understand why she is behaving that way but it is still quite frustrating and annoying.
5) Phew! Now that that's out of the way, my hopes:-
DH - I hope by the end of this show she reaches a place where she is ready to move on. I don't think she should be getting into another relationship. Changjin? It is pretty clear he is just a replacement for DJ and that is problematic, to say the least. Also unfair to Changjin. So I hope that DH leaves the show single but happy.
DJ - I really really want him to find a new partner, one he can love openly and freely and who can give him as much as he can give her. I think, out of all the women in the house, Hyewon is the only one who can be in a mutually healing relationship with him. Absolute no on SK (she is placed next to him in the poster and I was horrified), won't work with YJ and SJ, absolutely no to getting back with DH, so yes, HW. HW had also empathized with DJ during their first date, kind of felt like she saw herself in him, so it would be nice to see them go on one more date that is free from the shadows of their exes.
SK - I honestly don't think she is that into anyone in the house though she is quite open to options. I don't want her back with JW, their relationship seems a bit toxic. She seems like the type of gal who needs to be pampered all the time and wants her whims and moods to be matched, thinking that apologizing is the man's duty. Also, while she doesn't want to get back together with JW, she does get annoyed seeing him try to move on with others which would be fine.....if she didn't act upon those feelings. That mafia game moment was totally intentional and was her way of bringing JW back on the hook. She also totally played him when she asked him to cook her porridge cause she was sick, while not going to accompany him as anyone would out of respect and instead staying behind to flirt with Kwangtae. Yeah....she definitely takes JW for granted.
JW - Don't feel the spark between him and YJ. Felt more for him and Sangjeong. Also, I wonder why he hasn't tried anything with HW? Hmmm
HH - I am sadly starting to get the feeling that he is going to walk out of this solo, and not even a happy to be single solo. To be fair, it doesn't feel like he is in a place to be able to give anyone a lasting commitment. Except his ex but that is more because he wants to right his wrongs. There is Sangjeong but again, it will just feel like a CC (campus couple). Meaning, young love that will be gone in some time. What he needs, I feel, is an authoritative older woman who can hook him down, come what may.
HW - Again, if I had to choose between HH and DJ, I would choose DJ because I truly want him to be happy.
KT - Don't see the spark between him and SK though I guess they will be able to make do for a bit after the show if they don't find anyone else. Maybe he could build something with Dahye. Theirs is a solid friendship right now and I would still be happy for it to stay that away beyond the show but if I HAD to choose someone then friendship turning into love would also be a good story. Also don't think his ex is here yet. It is definitely not SJ the way that everyone is assuming. SJ is nothing like the colder and unable-to-express-emotions woman he had described. Neither is it YJ who herself has the same issues with her ex.
SJ - My favorite but I don't know if she will find a match here or a lasting relationship. Her ex is yet to come, I believe, so there's still a bit of room. I just hope she comes out of this having had lots of dates and fun.
YJ & CJ - Making a joint post because I think they are exes and because we haven't seen their interactions enough. I can't see YJ ending up with anyone else so, for now, CJ is the only option. And as for CJ....nothing. Too soon for him but as I have already said, definitely not Dahye but I do hope they have a fun date.
I forgot some SPOILERS about Juwon. Remember, these MIGHT NOT be true or only PARTIALLY true.So the spoilers said…
oooo I really hope the Dongjin rumor is true. I think that out of all the women in the house, only she will be able to see beyond the awkward exterior to the man underneath. Both of them are kind and caring people who give their all in a relationship so they would make each other happy and, especially after the way her last relationship ended, I think Dongjin can give her the peace and stability she needs. I REALLY hope Dongjin can find someone new and be happy again.
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WARNING: Yes, I will be a bit vicious about Hyewon in this because of the overwhelming hate that Hwihyun is getting. I had dropped the previous season because of the same way that a couple of characters would get hate when everyone was just human and grieving in their own way. I am only human as well so the online hate does color my lenses and make me more defensive over those who get one-sided hate (provided I actually have reasons) and more critical about those who are on the opposite side of the coin. Objectively, HW & HH are both understandable but subjectively, I am HH's side. Hope he is coping well against all the internet hate. It is an incredibly stressful thing.
Time to play the Devil's advocate again because Hwihyun continues to get villainised - why does everyone keep forgetting that it was Hyewon who messed up their chances back in Seoul? She was just plain rude in their first meet interview, wasn't even serious in her ex letter, had been into Kwangtae, and completely ignored Hwihyun. And unlike Hyewon now, Hwihyun didn't even have the luxury to get even a little angry at her because he was drowning in guilt over his self-perceived incapability during their dating period and how it ended. Despite all of that, Hwihyun still kept sending her messages and was actually the one who first tried to strike up a conversation with Hyewon. HE EVEN ASKED HER OUT ON A DAMN PATBINGSU DATE! But even THAT wasn't enough for Hyewon and she kept messing up. Of course Hwihyun visibly, understandably, started to give up. For everyone saying oh he should just chase her if he wants her or completely cut her off if he doesn't - Hwihyun is just not that type of person. He just doesn't outright tell someone he likes them for fear of being burdensome and neither can he sternly cut them off early for fear of hurting them, not until things are set in stone. Just look at him with Seokyung and Sangjeong! How much more with his ex then! And everyone else is also in the same place that he is! Hyewon however, if she has the guts to go up to him and throw tantrums then she might as well use that energy to just chase him if she wants to. Either do that or just leave him the heck alone and go romance other people, ghosh! Whether he likes you or not has NOTHING to do with whether you like him or not, Hyewon! Man up and stop putting all the blame on him! If Hwihyun had done all the stuff that Hyewon is doing then everyone would have crucified him ten times over.
Candy incident: ghosh, can't believe I have to revisit this but it was just some damn store bought candy. Not some Gucci candy, not even handmade candy, not even candy that had her name engraved on it! STORE. BOUGHT. PLAIN. CANDY. Of course Hwihyun didn't even remember it! He has no way of knowing what it meant to Hyewon because they don't get to hear each others' interviews! Just because she sent the candy to him in the ex package does not mean it means anything significant to her. They literally had nothing material that they gave or received from each other, look at their ex room. Hyewon was just lucky enough to have SOMEthing to send, from his perspective. He was still touched that she remembered such a seemingly insignificant thing, why he wanted to share and brag about it.
Charming incident: he wasn't calling her physically unattractive. They had a conversation before this and it had seemed like they could now be on good enough terms to at least help each other out so he was merely commenting on how she isn't even trying to get with the other guys which they also obviously feel and in turn don't really want to approach her for dates. He was merely telling her that she was an otherwise really charming person and that she should go back to that, that she shouldn't let herself wallow too long and try and date other people. That is it.
P.S. Had hated Hyewon's behavior in that scene. You just had one conversation, why the heck are you trying to play the push-and-pull game again with the same old "I hate you!" *eyeroll* What did you want him to do? Say sorry and kiss you alright like when you two dated? And a personal pet peeve but - don't touch his personal stuff (laptop)! You guys are not on those terms yet! Honestly, Hwihyun just looked uncomfortable in the whole scene and wanted her out, something I totally understand.
Phew, with that out of the way:
CJxDH - as much as I like them, it is clear as eps go by that CJ doesn't really like DH like that and is very much still into YJ. Which is a darn shame. Grow some brains, boy. YJ is too young and if she couldn't stay with you when your career was giving you a hard time, she ain't going to be staying through much else later either. DH too is only yoyo-ing because she can feel that CJ isn't going to choose her in the end. If CJ had been more set on her then DH would have moved from DJ quicker.
SKxHH - clubbing them together now because HH is set on SK while SK doesn't have anyone else. Man, HH really needs to forget about being burdensome and just go all in on expressing his feelings. His passiveness right now is not getting through to SK AT ALL and he will miss out on her if he doesn't become more direct with his affections. I feel like if HH was more direct then SK would definitely go over but that is asking too much from HH who is just not that kind of a person. SIGH. Also, don't want SK going back to KT. Please no. So HH do us all a favor and catch the girl. I want to see her having fun again cause it seems like it has been a long time since.
DJxHW - I have always been vocal about wanting to see them together and while it is great to see their development, all this HH drama makes me not want them together. Because HW is honestly just obsessed with HH and it seems like one call from him and she will go running. Not really a good sign for for forming any significant relationships that go beyond the show.
JWxJeongeun - Alright! I had been WAITING to see KT's ex. I have always also been vocal about finding JW and YJ boring and the rumors about this couple were the only thing keeping me afloat so.....can't wait! They are even rooming together! Let the sparks fly!
MH - have to say, I was quite surprised by how bold and direct he was. Sad he couldn't have entered the show with the other participants. He would have made things interesting.
SJ - yeeeah, she isn't coming out of this show with a boyfriend in tow. Hwihyun isn't into her at all and I don't think she can charm him over either. Neither is she getting with her ex. Neither is she into anyone else. Aigooo
KT - aw I felt a bit bad for him after the interview. To not be able to hear I love you and to hear I don't love you are two vastly different things and poor guy had to go through both. I have always felt like he kept propagating an image of himself that wasn't him at all due to some past trauma and ended up blundering quite bad. If he had just been genuine.....sigh. BTW, if JW gets together with his ex then it will be hilarious because JW & KT clash all the time. There was SK then YJ and now his ex. And JW always wins ROFLMAO. It is like KT lays down the foundation and then JW just whisks them away like it's no effort at all BWAHAHA
YJ - no thoughts. Don't particularly care.
P.S. If there is a sequel then I hope that we see either A-Si and Keling move on with other people (BECAUSE A-SI IS ALSO FAMILY, OK!) or that Keling gets a different actress and a major rewrite if this pairing is going to be pushed because her character was the only weak link in this show and also why the last 4 or so eps were not as enjoyable as the rest of the show, because they focused more on her. She was just plain rude to him, we never see her actually care for him in some way but only bask in his affections cause it makes her feel good, and she couldn't even bother to have a proper conversation with him even after getting into a relationship. Neither could the actress bring out more depth from her. So yeah, totally didn't care for that romance, don't know why he likes her, and therefore couldn't care less about all their angst. Which is sad because the idea behind them is good. But as it stands, A-Si could do so much better.
Also nothing wrong with acting haughty. Doesn't mean I won't cackle when you end up eating your own words though LMAO
I like DH and CJ but I am not going to hope for them until more time has passed and CJ has interacted more with YJ who seems to have a weird hold over everyone. I didn't care much before but now, after the ex room, I really don't want CJ and YJ to get back together. Forget everything else, girl broke up over a text. NAH. CJ did right by not giving her the satisfaction of a reply for weeks *claps*
My need for KT's ex to come in and shake things up grows even more with each episode. Especially in regards to Juwon. I have said this before and I will say this again, I find YJ flat and boring, and their interactions stilted. I much prefer the ease with which DHxCJ and DJxHW interact, I find that to be the mark of a good possible couple. And I like Juwon so I want to see him getting swept off his feet. YJ ain't the one making that happen.
P.S. Felt quite satisfying when the ex thing finally started affecting YJ because she used to act a bit haughty about it all. Ha!
Ep 9
1) (Disclaimer: I am NOT hating on DH & SJ or anything. I was just annoyed by the circumstances is all so please don't comment saying things like it's not their fault etc etc. I KNOW) I was first annoyed by Dahye and Sangjeong blocking off the kitchen. I know those girls meant well but this is a freaking dating show where everyone appears with their exes. There is no need to hide Hyewon's episode from the men! Not to mention, the rules don't say that only girls can comfort girls. They are all living under one roof and are friendly with each other. Men can also very well comfort women and vice versa. THIS ISN'T THE FREAKING 1800s. LET THE MEN COME IF THEY WANT. If it is her ex, they could have talked (AS HWIHYUN AND HYEWON COULD HAVE IF DAHYE AND SANGJEONG HADN'T BLINDLY INTERVENED). If it is someone else, maybe sparks could have flown while comforting her ARGGGGH
2) I was annoyed at Hwihyun for not making some kind of excuse and going up the staircase after Hyewon. The rules say you cannot make it obvious, THEY DON'T TELL YOU TO NOT INTERACT WITH YOUR EX AT ALL. Why the HECK would you wait until everyone's gone and YOU HAVE CLEANED THE ENTIRE DAMN LIVING ROOM. She would obviously have gone back into her room by then and you, mister, are obviously not going to go that far in ARGGGGH
3) I was annoyed at Hyewon for taking Hwihyun's words at face value when SHE HAD LITERALLY WOKEN HIM UP FROM DEEP SLEEP! GIRL FFS!!! WHY COULDN'T YOU WAIT?!!!! ASK HIM IN THE MORNING WHEN HE CAN HAVE A PROPER CONVERSATION!! YOU CANNOT WAKE HIM UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND EXPECT HIM TO BE SANE ENOUGH FOR LIVING, LET ALONE HAVING A DEEP CONVERSATION WITH HIS EX ARGGGGH
All of these are just silly misunderstandings that can be solved with just ONE simple conversation. But both of them are too timid. So yes, putting this on hold. Maybe for a few days, maybe until next week's eps, maybe until their little thing is over, or maybe until the end when I am sure that BOTH come out of the show with different partners. Cause the STRESS omg. I like Dongjin and Hyewon, loved their little moment in the house (best chemistry I have seen so far), but I don't want them to get together with so many unresolved misunderstandings still between Hyewon and Hwihyun ARGGGGH
P.S. The way that Dongjin said he loves the sound of Hyewon's laugh kyaaaaa
1) Don't know why everyone keeps saying that DHxDJ and JWxSK need to talk it out. The only couple who needs to talk it out is HWxHY because they have a lot of misunderstandings and unsaid feelings between them, having an honest conversation is very much needed and will help them. That's not the case for DHxDJ and JWxSK. The latter are just hung up on each other while the former has one party hung up on the other. "Talking it out" specifically is not going to help them in any way, they aren't going to magically move on with just one conversation.
2) Don't get all this hate for DJ. Just because DH is a woman and is crying does not automatically make DJ the bad guy. DH is a celebrity and is here to gain popularity. DJ is obviously the only guy she can recruit and she is also hung up on him so it is a win-win situation for her. Let's not turn her into a victim here. DJ being DJ would of course agree, as much for her as for himself. It is painfully clear how much he truly wishes for her to succeed, both in work and life. Meanwhile, he has had to love her secretly for 13 years. I don't think people realize the kind of mental and emotional strain that puts on someone, there's a reason why the panelists were shocked. That kind of thing is unimaginable. DJ has said that he couldn't even tell his close friends that he was dating. To have to verbally deny who you are at every turn, for so many years, oof! So this opportunity can serve as a farewell love letter to the him who silently, invisibly, gave his all, mind heart and soul, career and life, to someone for 13 long years. People keep bringing up the spam message comment but forget that DJ had earlier said that the problem he has with her messages is that they are meaningless. They read unserious and like a joke. She sent him a genuine message only once, I think on Day 3, and he appreciated it, but DH went right back to thoughtless messages after that. If she was going to do that then she might as well send it to someone new, maybe it could have started something. So yes, they very much are like spam. Then people hate on DJ because he isn't trying to have a conversation with her. Here's the thing, DH is tenacious. That's great when starting a relationship, not so much when you are trying to break it off. If DJ did try to talk to her, that would just fuel DH even more and DJ knows it. I have no doubt that if DH had been ready to move on then DJ would have been able to interact with her more and have a heart-to-heart. But as such, he is right back to having to bottle up his feelings because letting them out will just trigger DH.
3) Don't get all this hate for SK. I do find SK to be a slightly toxic lover from her actions with JW, but that's something that comes WAY later into a relationship and is certainly not relevant to any of her interactions with the men in the house. And while I also don't see what's so incredibly charming about her, I don't grudge the attention she is getting from the other men (unlike the other seasons), I have no idea why people are painting her out to be some kind of vixen, talking about her being too touchy, etc. This isn't the 1800s, people. All of her interactions with the men have been perfectly normal, with her being a bit more flirty with Kwangtae. None of her other actions have crossed the line. And if the other girls do get pissed off because of it, like the time with YJ and then with HW, that's a them problem not a her problem. She isn't at fault if the other men want to get to know her better because she has yet to approach anyone by herself, Kwangtae just happened to luck out with the first date pick.
4) Again, don't get all the hate for HH. He dumped HW due to his circumstances and now calls her back. He knows he was crap and feels guilty over it. HW too received him quite coldly at first. So there's no way that HH is going to approach HW first. He thinks she has moved on and doesn't want anything to do with him and he isn't the kind of trash who bulldozes through regardless. Plus, he has seen her flirt with Kwangtae. It is HW who is ruining their chances now with her extreme insecurity. Boy, she's a mess. She completely ruined it by not texting him on the fireplace day when they had only just managed to reciprocate each other's feelings through the texts the day before. That had been a decisive moment and she ruined it and worse, over absolutely nothing. HH has not been flirting with anyone in the house. Like, the boy is more concerned about his grades LMAO. So of course HH is going to think that the text before was a one time thing and stop himself from approaching her again, which will just worsen matters because....I guess she expects him to read her mind? Instead of just talking to him? And ep 9 promises a breakdown on HW's end.....cause of her own actions. It is not that I don't understand why she is behaving that way but it is still quite frustrating and annoying.
5) Phew! Now that that's out of the way, my hopes:-
DH - I hope by the end of this show she reaches a place where she is ready to move on. I don't think she should be getting into another relationship. Changjin? It is pretty clear he is just a replacement for DJ and that is problematic, to say the least. Also unfair to Changjin. So I hope that DH leaves the show single but happy.
DJ - I really really want him to find a new partner, one he can love openly and freely and who can give him as much as he can give her. I think, out of all the women in the house, Hyewon is the only one who can be in a mutually healing relationship with him. Absolute no on SK (she is placed next to him in the poster and I was horrified), won't work with YJ and SJ, absolutely no to getting back with DH, so yes, HW. HW had also empathized with DJ during their first date, kind of felt like she saw herself in him, so it would be nice to see them go on one more date that is free from the shadows of their exes.
SK - I honestly don't think she is that into anyone in the house though she is quite open to options. I don't want her back with JW, their relationship seems a bit toxic. She seems like the type of gal who needs to be pampered all the time and wants her whims and moods to be matched, thinking that apologizing is the man's duty. Also, while she doesn't want to get back together with JW, she does get annoyed seeing him try to move on with others which would be fine.....if she didn't act upon those feelings. That mafia game moment was totally intentional and was her way of bringing JW back on the hook. She also totally played him when she asked him to cook her porridge cause she was sick, while not going to accompany him as anyone would out of respect and instead staying behind to flirt with Kwangtae. Yeah....she definitely takes JW for granted.
JW - Don't feel the spark between him and YJ. Felt more for him and Sangjeong. Also, I wonder why he hasn't tried anything with HW? Hmmm
HH - I am sadly starting to get the feeling that he is going to walk out of this solo, and not even a happy to be single solo. To be fair, it doesn't feel like he is in a place to be able to give anyone a lasting commitment. Except his ex but that is more because he wants to right his wrongs. There is Sangjeong but again, it will just feel like a CC (campus couple). Meaning, young love that will be gone in some time. What he needs, I feel, is an authoritative older woman who can hook him down, come what may.
HW - Again, if I had to choose between HH and DJ, I would choose DJ because I truly want him to be happy.
KT - Don't see the spark between him and SK though I guess they will be able to make do for a bit after the show if they don't find anyone else. Maybe he could build something with Dahye. Theirs is a solid friendship right now and I would still be happy for it to stay that away beyond the show but if I HAD to choose someone then friendship turning into love would also be a good story. Also don't think his ex is here yet. It is definitely not SJ the way that everyone is assuming. SJ is nothing like the colder and unable-to-express-emotions woman he had described. Neither is it YJ who herself has the same issues with her ex.
SJ - My favorite but I don't know if she will find a match here or a lasting relationship. Her ex is yet to come, I believe, so there's still a bit of room. I just hope she comes out of this having had lots of dates and fun.
YJ & CJ - Making a joint post because I think they are exes and because we haven't seen their interactions enough. I can't see YJ ending up with anyone else so, for now, CJ is the only option. And as for CJ....nothing. Too soon for him but as I have already said, definitely not Dahye but I do hope they have a fun date.