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Replying to TitilolaAndrew-Essien Mar 3, 2024
Y’all keep forgetting that HH broke up with HW and she had every right to be rude and angry during the first…
"Hwihyun's actions are reasonable" does not equate to "Hyewon's actions are unreasonable".
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Replying to Bliss Ace Mar 3, 2024
Wow, you explained the misunderstanding around HH so well. I think you should be a lawyer cause you explain someone's…
Aw thank you!
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Replying to interregnum Mar 3, 2024
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So, just to clarify, part of your defense of Hwi-hyun is that he’s not the kind of guy to give a definite yes…
First of all, I just want to say, thank you for a sane comment haha. Comments like these are rare around here.

Everyone on this show are half and half on their exes and will be going back and forth until the end of the show, which is completely ok. So the difference then comes in how they express this. As such, the difference between Hwihyun and Hyewon is that HH, if he finds himself pulled towards HW only for her to not reciprocate, will never go confront her about it and get mad at her. He doesn't think of it as a "fault" because that is what everyone is here to do. He respects her decisions, as he should. If it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out. HW does not think like that and her resulting actions manifest in more negative ways, which is why it is less ok. What she wants is basically for HH to grovel for her regardless of whether she likes him or not, and it is honestly driving her mad that it isn't working out the way that she wants, it isn't a simple indecisiveness over whether she wants him or someone else. All the few conversations they have had have all been HW blaming him and getting angry at him for everything, even when just joking. She never simply tells him that hey I like you and may want to get back together but you are confusing me. She is just you did this, you did that, you you you. Basically, "everything wrong about me is because of you" without taking any responsibility for her emotions. Putting all the blame on him like that, painting herself as the victim, is why I called it gaslighting. Like the conversation in his dorm. She was on the offensive from the start, forces him to tell her who he is interested in, and then gets mad at him for being honest because it hurts her. Why does it hurt her? She never says. Her focus is just always on how HE is hurting HER. It is all in the way you frame it.

"Hwi-hyun is that he’s not the kind of guy to give a definite yes or no to pursuing someone" - that is actually different from what I was saying. I added a "until things are set in stone" after my sentence. Seokyung is a good example of this. Until HH is sure that the opposite party is okay with receiving his advances, he isn't going to be overt about it. Because if he comes on strong it may make them uncomfortable, like in KT and YJ's case. And everyone has different thresholds for what they consider "crossing the line" so he is being cautious. He is also a man after all. It doesn't come out of a place of cowardice of having his feelings known or only going for the easy target. It is not ambiguity but taking it slow. He isn't going to start professing love until he is sure of his feelings and that the person he likes is ok with being wooed by him. Same goes for his interactions with HW. He actually wasn't being that ambiguous neither did he give up cause he thought she wasn't going to be easy. The impression she gave off during their first meet was that she was completely over him and wasn't even thinking about getting back together, i.e., in his eyes, if he did try to woo her, it would just make her uncomfortable. Considering that is their first one-on-one and only conversation for ages, it is going to leave a very strong impression. As such, he isn't going to bombard her with his feelings in the house. You can see this with SJ as well in ep 13. All she did was cry and blurt out that she had really missed MH but she regretted it immensely because she didn't want to make her ex uncomfortable. It is the same sentiment and there is nothing wrong with it. HH still expressed as much as he thought he could without crossing any lines. He DID show interest. However, he is also connecting with other people in the house. Couple that with the fact that HH & HW aren't able to significantly connect with each other, it is quite ok for him to move on and is certainly not because of something as sinister as not finding her an easy target. It is more about missed timing. They haven't seen each other in a year. They have to reconnect before they can start pursuing each other.

Regarding your last point, yes. I have said this before as well but the biggest problem with HH & HW is miscommunication. Major miscommunication (and also some bad luck) due to plain personality differences. Neither of them are villains (or were, until ep 13 but more on that later). My post was mainly to defend HH to the 3rd person POV, us. Because you cannot deny the hate that HH is getting and that IS going to affect him in real life. Otherwise, as I say in my next comment, both are understandable in their actions. Emphasis on BOTH. Heck, that candy episode was some delicious entertaining angst better than any drama and neither of them was at fault for it. They just had two very different trains of thought.

That said, in ep 13 HW definitely comes across as more problematic. Even the panelists were done with her. Because again, she wasn't actually trying to have a proper conversation with HH but kept going in circles with the same blame.
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Replying to Nejukochan Mar 3, 2024
Dude how you can expect her to be all smiley with him considering how he broke up with her
I don't.
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Replying to dizconnect Mar 3, 2024
omggg,, love your comments, everyone's already calling dibs on who's toxic and red flags when the show haven't…
Glad I am not the only one feeling the same!
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Replying to Kaleidoscopic Mar 3, 2024
Nah man. At this point, Hyewon is straight up gaslighting Hwihyun with her "it's all your fault" spiels and it…
EP 13 long rant again

WARNING: Yes, I will be a bit vicious about Hyewon in this because of the overwhelming hate that Hwihyun is getting. I had dropped the previous season because of the same way that a couple of characters would get hate when everyone was just human and grieving in their own way. I am only human as well so the online hate does color my lenses and make me more defensive over those who get one-sided hate (provided I actually have reasons) and more critical about those who are on the opposite side of the coin. Objectively, HW & HH are both understandable but subjectively, I am HH's side. Hope he is coping well against all the internet hate. It is an incredibly stressful thing.
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On EXchange Season 3 Mar 3, 2024
Title EXchange Season 3 Spoiler
Nah man. At this point, Hyewon is straight up gaslighting Hwihyun with her "it's all your fault" spiels and it is sad that it works, not just with him but also with the audience. If I had been Hwihyun at the end of ep 13, I would have done an about turn and went back to my room without a single word the moment Hyewon started whining and acting like she didn't want to talk to him after waking him up at freaking 5am. To hell with the ex at that point. But poor Hwihyun was successfully brainwashed to feel guilty over something that wasn't even his fault and he was trapped.

Time to play the Devil's advocate again because Hwihyun continues to get villainised - why does everyone keep forgetting that it was Hyewon who messed up their chances back in Seoul? She was just plain rude in their first meet interview, wasn't even serious in her ex letter, had been into Kwangtae, and completely ignored Hwihyun. And unlike Hyewon now, Hwihyun didn't even have the luxury to get even a little angry at her because he was drowning in guilt over his self-perceived incapability during their dating period and how it ended. Despite all of that, Hwihyun still kept sending her messages and was actually the one who first tried to strike up a conversation with Hyewon. HE EVEN ASKED HER OUT ON A DAMN PATBINGSU DATE! But even THAT wasn't enough for Hyewon and she kept messing up. Of course Hwihyun visibly, understandably, started to give up. For everyone saying oh he should just chase her if he wants her or completely cut her off if he doesn't - Hwihyun is just not that type of person. He just doesn't outright tell someone he likes them for fear of being burdensome and neither can he sternly cut them off early for fear of hurting them, not until things are set in stone. Just look at him with Seokyung and Sangjeong! How much more with his ex then! And everyone else is also in the same place that he is! Hyewon however, if she has the guts to go up to him and throw tantrums then she might as well use that energy to just chase him if she wants to. Either do that or just leave him the heck alone and go romance other people, ghosh! Whether he likes you or not has NOTHING to do with whether you like him or not, Hyewon! Man up and stop putting all the blame on him! If Hwihyun had done all the stuff that Hyewon is doing then everyone would have crucified him ten times over.
Candy incident: ghosh, can't believe I have to revisit this but it was just some damn store bought candy. Not some Gucci candy, not even handmade candy, not even candy that had her name engraved on it! STORE. BOUGHT. PLAIN. CANDY. Of course Hwihyun didn't even remember it! He has no way of knowing what it meant to Hyewon because they don't get to hear each others' interviews! Just because she sent the candy to him in the ex package does not mean it means anything significant to her. They literally had nothing material that they gave or received from each other, look at their ex room. Hyewon was just lucky enough to have SOMEthing to send, from his perspective. He was still touched that she remembered such a seemingly insignificant thing, why he wanted to share and brag about it.
Charming incident: he wasn't calling her physically unattractive. They had a conversation before this and it had seemed like they could now be on good enough terms to at least help each other out so he was merely commenting on how she isn't even trying to get with the other guys which they also obviously feel and in turn don't really want to approach her for dates. He was merely telling her that she was an otherwise really charming person and that she should go back to that, that she shouldn't let herself wallow too long and try and date other people. That is it.
P.S. Had hated Hyewon's behavior in that scene. You just had one conversation, why the heck are you trying to play the push-and-pull game again with the same old "I hate you!" *eyeroll* What did you want him to do? Say sorry and kiss you alright like when you two dated? And a personal pet peeve but - don't touch his personal stuff (laptop)! You guys are not on those terms yet! Honestly, Hwihyun just looked uncomfortable in the whole scene and wanted her out, something I totally understand.

Phew, with that out of the way:

CJxDH - as much as I like them, it is clear as eps go by that CJ doesn't really like DH like that and is very much still into YJ. Which is a darn shame. Grow some brains, boy. YJ is too young and if she couldn't stay with you when your career was giving you a hard time, she ain't going to be staying through much else later either. DH too is only yoyo-ing because she can feel that CJ isn't going to choose her in the end. If CJ had been more set on her then DH would have moved from DJ quicker.

SKxHH - clubbing them together now because HH is set on SK while SK doesn't have anyone else. Man, HH really needs to forget about being burdensome and just go all in on expressing his feelings. His passiveness right now is not getting through to SK AT ALL and he will miss out on her if he doesn't become more direct with his affections. I feel like if HH was more direct then SK would definitely go over but that is asking too much from HH who is just not that kind of a person. SIGH. Also, don't want SK going back to KT. Please no. So HH do us all a favor and catch the girl. I want to see her having fun again cause it seems like it has been a long time since.

DJxHW - I have always been vocal about wanting to see them together and while it is great to see their development, all this HH drama makes me not want them together. Because HW is honestly just obsessed with HH and it seems like one call from him and she will go running. Not really a good sign for for forming any significant relationships that go beyond the show.

JWxJeongeun - Alright! I had been WAITING to see KT's ex. I have always also been vocal about finding JW and YJ boring and the rumors about this couple were the only thing keeping me afloat so.....can't wait! They are even rooming together! Let the sparks fly!

MH - have to say, I was quite surprised by how bold and direct he was. Sad he couldn't have entered the show with the other participants. He would have made things interesting.

SJ - yeeeah, she isn't coming out of this show with a boyfriend in tow. Hwihyun isn't into her at all and I don't think she can charm him over either. Neither is she getting with her ex. Neither is she into anyone else. Aigooo

KT - aw I felt a bit bad for him after the interview. To not be able to hear I love you and to hear I don't love you are two vastly different things and poor guy had to go through both. I have always felt like he kept propagating an image of himself that wasn't him at all due to some past trauma and ended up blundering quite bad. If he had just been genuine.....sigh. BTW, if JW gets together with his ex then it will be hilarious because JW & KT clash all the time. There was SK then YJ and now his ex. And JW always wins ROFLMAO. It is like KT lays down the foundation and then JW just whisks them away like it's no effort at all BWAHAHA

YJ - no thoughts. Don't particularly care.
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On Hilarious Family Mar 2, 2024
Sad that A-Si couldn't be a part of the family photo TT_TT

P.S. If there is a sequel then I hope that we see either A-Si and Keling move on with other people (BECAUSE A-SI IS ALSO FAMILY, OK!) or that Keling gets a different actress and a major rewrite if this pairing is going to be pushed because her character was the only weak link in this show and also why the last 4 or so eps were not as enjoyable as the rest of the show, because they focused more on her. She was just plain rude to him, we never see her actually care for him in some way but only bask in his affections cause it makes her feel good, and she couldn't even bother to have a proper conversation with him even after getting into a relationship. Neither could the actress bring out more depth from her. So yeah, totally didn't care for that romance, don't know why he likes her, and therefore couldn't care less about all their angst. Which is sad because the idea behind them is good. But as it stands, A-Si could do so much better.
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Replying to Dana Feb 18, 2024
The way I agree with every single thing you wrote is actually insane. I also want to see JW with someone else…
My how Kwangtae has fallen. Getting all the votes at the start of the show got to his head. I hope he redeems himself when his ex comes in cause otherwise.....eek!
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Replying to SpringdayM08 Feb 18, 2024
💯 agree with everything!!! Everyone is starting to be so darn annoying. They don’t want the ex but can’t…
I also hope that SJ's screentime increases once her ex comes in TT_TT
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Replying to Dana Feb 18, 2024
The way I agree with every single thing you wrote is actually insane. I also want to see JW with someone else…
Glad to find a comrade, there aren't many of us. I almost feel like I'm watching a different show from everyone else haha
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Replying to Jaewohn Feb 18, 2024
she wasn't acting 'haughty' about it at all, that's such a rude thing to say. Did you read her whole text? The…
the haughty comment wasn't for the text but just some of her behavior earlier in the show. and yes I very much know what the text is. doesn't change the fact that it is still....a text.
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Replying to Spatina Feb 17, 2024
It's not yj fault tho.. What's wrong with acting haughty lmao. It's 100% the fault of the extremely shallow men
Yeah.....as I said, the men were brainless sheep in this ep. Didn't say anything about that being YJ's fault. Me not getting YJ's appeal and the men being spineless are two different things that just happened to be compiled into one post is all 🤷‍♀️

Also nothing wrong with acting haughty. Doesn't mean I won't cackle when you end up eating your own words though LMAO
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Replying to Kaleidoscopic Feb 17, 2024
One of the reasons why I had been comparatively liking this show was the way that the men seemed to at least be…
Ep 10 spoilers
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On EXchange Season 3 Feb 17, 2024
Title EXchange Season 3 Spoiler
One of the reasons why I had been comparatively liking this show was the way that the men seemed to at least be choosing personality over looks for the most part but ep 10 had the men going back to being sheep and all bee lining for Yujung once they realized she wasn't so "out of league" BLEH. SK I could understand, especially with where everyone was at the time, but YJ? Especially now? Nah. Like DJ, what the HECK man?! She has shown sub-zero interest in you and your date was horrible. At least could have chosen SK if you were going to choose someone other than Hyewon *facepalm*

I like DH and CJ but I am not going to hope for them until more time has passed and CJ has interacted more with YJ who seems to have a weird hold over everyone. I didn't care much before but now, after the ex room, I really don't want CJ and YJ to get back together. Forget everything else, girl broke up over a text. NAH. CJ did right by not giving her the satisfaction of a reply for weeks *claps*

My need for KT's ex to come in and shake things up grows even more with each episode. Especially in regards to Juwon. I have said this before and I will say this again, I find YJ flat and boring, and their interactions stilted. I much prefer the ease with which DHxCJ and DJxHW interact, I find that to be the mark of a good possible couple. And I like Juwon so I want to see him getting swept off his feet. YJ ain't the one making that happen.

P.S. Felt quite satisfying when the ex thing finally started affecting YJ because she used to act a bit haughty about it all. Ha!
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Replying to Kaleidoscopic Feb 9, 2024
Ok, This comment is NOT meant to be a sane level-headed analysis so give me a break. This is purely to let off…
WARNING: Lots of caps lock as I just plain rant haha

Ep 9
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On EXchange Season 3 Feb 9, 2024
Title EXchange Season 3 Spoiler
Ok, This comment is NOT meant to be a sane level-headed analysis so give me a break. This is purely to let off some steam because I was so frustrated by Hyewon and Hwihyun that I had to pause ep 9 at the 1 hour mark. And I am not one to get so involved into shows, let alone DATING shows, but they made me physically face palm more than once and even shout at my screen. They have such ridiculously bad timing that I would almost like to believe it is scripted.

1) (Disclaimer: I am NOT hating on DH & SJ or anything. I was just annoyed by the circumstances is all so please don't comment saying things like it's not their fault etc etc. I KNOW) I was first annoyed by Dahye and Sangjeong blocking off the kitchen. I know those girls meant well but this is a freaking dating show where everyone appears with their exes. There is no need to hide Hyewon's episode from the men! Not to mention, the rules don't say that only girls can comfort girls. They are all living under one roof and are friendly with each other. Men can also very well comfort women and vice versa. THIS ISN'T THE FREAKING 1800s. LET THE MEN COME IF THEY WANT. If it is her ex, they could have talked (AS HWIHYUN AND HYEWON COULD HAVE IF DAHYE AND SANGJEONG HADN'T BLINDLY INTERVENED). If it is someone else, maybe sparks could have flown while comforting her ARGGGGH

2) I was annoyed at Hwihyun for not making some kind of excuse and going up the staircase after Hyewon. The rules say you cannot make it obvious, THEY DON'T TELL YOU TO NOT INTERACT WITH YOUR EX AT ALL. Why the HECK would you wait until everyone's gone and YOU HAVE CLEANED THE ENTIRE DAMN LIVING ROOM. She would obviously have gone back into her room by then and you, mister, are obviously not going to go that far in ARGGGGH

3) I was annoyed at Hyewon for taking Hwihyun's words at face value when SHE HAD LITERALLY WOKEN HIM UP FROM DEEP SLEEP! GIRL FFS!!! WHY COULDN'T YOU WAIT?!!!! ASK HIM IN THE MORNING WHEN HE CAN HAVE A PROPER CONVERSATION!! YOU CANNOT WAKE HIM UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND EXPECT HIM TO BE SANE ENOUGH FOR LIVING, LET ALONE HAVING A DEEP CONVERSATION WITH HIS EX ARGGGGH

All of these are just silly misunderstandings that can be solved with just ONE simple conversation. But both of them are too timid. So yes, putting this on hold. Maybe for a few days, maybe until next week's eps, maybe until their little thing is over, or maybe until the end when I am sure that BOTH come out of the show with different partners. Cause the STRESS omg. I like Dongjin and Hyewon, loved their little moment in the house (best chemistry I have seen so far), but I don't want them to get together with so many unresolved misunderstandings still between Hyewon and Hwihyun ARGGGGH

P.S. The way that Dongjin said he loves the sound of Hyewon's laugh kyaaaaa
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Replying to Naksu_aos Feb 8, 2024
did anyone watch ep9, it's released today ryt???
No, tomorrow. New eps are released every Friday.
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Replying to Katsuishm Feb 5, 2024
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No one is hating DJ tho and it’s weird to say DH is fishing fame when she cries at every moment she even hears…
I never said her actions in the house are fishing for fame, I said that her choosing to appear on this is also as much for fame as it is for DJ. There's a difference. Her behavior in the house is very much valid and real, nobody's saying she is faking it. My point was that just because DH chooses to behave a certain way doesn't mean that DJ is obligated to reciprocate in the same manner. And yes, there's a lot of hate for DJ going around on the social streams I follow so
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