You do sound like you see him from Mudeok's perspective...lol He irks her so much. I'll try to explain the way…
I know, I realized all this stuff lol I said at the bottom it doesn't bother me because at the time of each of these things he was struggling with stuff. I just thought it was interesting and wanted to make a comment about it because even if it is excused, its the on-and-off behaviour haha
SPOILER KIND OF Okay Im at 12 episodes and Im really enjoying, I just wanted to say Jang Uk's on and off behaviour irks me sometimes lol.
If I can explain... in the beginning complains about having his power cut off or something and once he gets it back he just wants to chill. So all he wanted was just power, didn't want anything to do with it... okay strike one!
Then he complains about not being let into Jinyowon, but once he is in, he wants to rest and go home, he has no complains that they're letting him do this... strike two!
Then when the soul shifter problem with the guy that is dead but not dead happens, he is excluded from the other mages and told to "go home and rest" and he doesn't like that... strike three! You can see the selfishness and immaturity of his character because of the way he grew up not having any of that responsibility that comes with power.
It doesn't completely bother me though because each of these is because he was struggling mentally or physically. He was upset about Mu Deok being mean, or lowkey rejecting his feelings. Its just the hypocrisy of him that makes me giggle. Like sometimes he is against the way they are treating him, other times hes like fine by me.
I like how pushy Mu Deok is with him though, when he is mean to her and tells her he doesn' twant to do it, she tricks him back into working or forcing him. It makes sense though because she needs him more than he needs her, and she even comments on that during their time in that cave house area.
I have just finished 7 episodes, and I really like Jang Uk but I am not opposed to Seo Yul and Go Won (the prince)! Can anyone recommend me a drama that that similar vibe to the love line between Mu Deok and the other two.
Not specific just like for Seo Yul, he has a calm demeanor, he is a little stand-offish and cold but is not opposed to getting to know her (SPOILER : when he almost let her kiss him AHHHHH) With Go Won, he is someone in a high position (rich$$$ lol), and he likes her unique flattery, weird behaviour, and wants to keep her around.
If anyone can recommend any drama with these male leads I would love that! I haven't seen many korean historical dramas so that would be interesting. As much as I like Jang Uk as the male lead, I wish I could see spin-offs with her going with either of the other guys just because I like characters and the relationship they have with Mu Deok. LET ME KNOW :)))
p.s. I am really enjoying, I like the balance of humor and seriousness, reminds me of vincenzo in that sense haha
Man the comments all sound so good except for the plot holes. I wouldn't mind it if the acting is as good as ya'll are saying, but I just finished the first episode and THE PUNCH LMAOOOO. OMG Why his arm fully extended? What kind of lame punch was that?! Everyone was saying his acting is good, I don't really see it. Also lowkey pisses me off how she is asked to be someone else just because she saved her life. Like thank you but you're the reason I'm in this situation. Should I continue or is the acting at the level I saw first episode cause...
I’m upset about episode 2! Why did they give up at 20 minutes? They got back to their base in less than 5 minutes but couldn’t run back and try the same method again? Instead this time try and hold the opposing members down? Everyone but one is inactive?! Why didn’t they try lifting kuina up with their hands to touch the top part of the pole. Why didn’t jaagi come back and try something?!?
I see the message, kind of, the purpose of them giving up. There were also like 3-4 messages from that so honestly don’t know what to take away from it. If someone could explain the message, that’s be helpful. Something like do t be afraid, choose your own fate (?!!!), idk…
Also felt there was not much between arisu and the nicked guy for it to be that emotional.. that’s my rant. Otherwise interesting game. Just thought arisu would be a bit smarter. Not a bad ending to it though.
I got have way and put in on pause, I do like her now lol but I still agree with her doing it for the promotion. But I cannot remember if any answers were given?
Yo someone give me a male lead like hase tenma!!! 3 episodes in and I already like him so much :) I guess I prefer a mature type more lol Love Haruto too though.
I don't know why people hate Lee Kang Jae so much, best character in my opinion! Whats this about people calling him mediocre?! He has a stable character, stays faithful to his girlfriend, they eat out often and listens to what she says (camping date, official photos, silly stuff). He even goes against his faith to try and sleep with her cause she crazy horny for some reason LOL. What is one bad quality of his? He even was super understanding his girlfriend decided to keep the child that ISN'T HIS!! He got scared cause he loves her so much!! It's a harmless lie because she was about to find out the truth anyway!!
Why did she break up with him? I thought she felt guilty about putting him in that position? Don't tell me she fell out of love with him... it did not look like that at all! I genuinely don't know why she broke up with him. Was it just for the sake of breaking up to move the plot forward? Now a few days later she already dating Raphael? I don't know but it just seems kind of mean. LKJ is just a good person, he doesn't even bother her about it and lets her go. He cares about her happiness, whether it is with him or someone else.
I absolutely loved this drama! I loved the business, it was mostly understandable for someone who doesn't have a lot of knowledge in this area. So many things I loved about it.. I don't know how to write reviews but I am jotting down my favorite things about the show:
*ACTING: The actors did a great job portraying the many emotions, especially Tan Song Yun! I also appreciate a show where the men are vulnerable and have crying scenes. All the crying scenes were great, not cringe at all, it felt so real I wanted to cry too lol! * CHARACTERS: The women in this show are all so powerful and diverse in their abilities and positions in life (stay-at-home girlfriend or CEO) * The mature characters, not 22 year olds as CEOS but people in their 30s-60s! Casting was amazing :) * PRODUCTION: Some nice camera-work moments that I don't usually see when I watch c-dramas. *The music is nice, but I didn't really pay attention to OST at all. I liked the music they played during heavy moments though. * THERE IS ROMANCE, but the main focus isn't love but the relationship between the main characters. I loved their dynamic, they were very interesting to watch and I didn't need any fluff for them as they are mature adults. If you do care about romance, just pay attention! Anyone who likes fast, fluffy romance, this is the opposite, slow and mature!! *CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!! * REALISM: We don't see mary sue characters who never fail, but we don't see any quitters! They are always fighting and it is very inspiring. They have ups and downs like normal people. *THE SLIGHT FORESHADOWS: Many shows show a picture of something or make a character do something weird and leave it unexplained, but in this show, each moment has a purpose. I feel fuffiled after watching. I was worried near the end they wouldn't explain this character or something, but they cover most of it.
I really enjoyed this show and wish I can find more Chinese shows with strong, realistic, mature characters, an interesting plot, and of course a lovely romance! The plot is not the same at all but I loved reset, it came out a few months ago and it is also one of my favorite c-drama with a well thought out plot with amazing characters of all ages. I hope people enjoy this show!
I just gotta say, the actor playing the young actor Jae Hyun... really is not a good actor O_O I guess caused he debuted recently, but the scene where him and Yuna are laughing was very awkward.
What is with all this lightsum promotion lol, all that to have her show in episode 5? Nothing else?!? Is the production company affiliated with cube or something? Also I REAALLLYYY didn't like that scene of a 2000 year old man watching this 20 year old girl stretching.... Not the shots from behind O_O
Watched two episodes and I don't see any real problem with the male lead. Just the female lead exaggerating his attitude. He called her out on her fake sympathy, she shouldn't think he's rude about that, he returned her shoe, and he does not want a secretary because he is competent enough to not need one. Why does that make him bad? He is a little cold, has an attitude, but there haven't been many moments where you see that.
Not really a fan of the female lead. She isn't bad, she stays calm most of the time, but doesn't know when to defend herself, actually yell out, or be quiet. One thing I hate is her belief that she is a good person. You're crying when you lose your job because you did your best for him?! No no no no no no no.... you did it so you could be an executive secretary!! Reminds me of in Vincenzo, when Chayoung was part of Wusang firm, doing deeds of a dirty lawyer for money. She is hiding her boss is cheating on his wife, faking sympathy for someone when their child died, you ain't a good person. Don't tell me you did it for his sake, you did it for his and YOUR PROMOTION.
Hopefully it is addressed in this show, the purpose of the secretary. You should answer the question "why do you need to know about me?" Secretaries aren't moms, you don't need to constantly ask about their food, changing their clothes, doing errands for them. She should be relieved he doesn't need someone to do all the ridiculous tasks. I however, would be upset if I was asked to do nothing at my job, that isn't what I got educated for.
I always see it in Asian dramas, main leads meet and have an awkward encounter, and all of a sudden they hate each other? Like they meet again and go "HIM!?!? HER!??!" Like come on... they weren't that rude or annoying for you to scowl at their sight. I know it is for the sake of the story, but come on, it just makes the leads look stupid. Like why are you hating on them, they ain't do nothing wrong,
Anyways, just some things I wanted to mention! I will keep watching, hopefully we can see an epiphany of her realizing what a secretary is and how dumb she was before. However, she is still a better female lead than most!
One of many things that we should learn from this drama is don’t blame someone else for our wrong choices in…
Lol I know the plot aint 2D and NGJ isn't the "villain." What I mean by that is exactly what you said, his character development. He is a rude and unforgiving guy who is learning to be better. What happened to his secretaries? Nothing happened to them except for the fact that he was rude to them, expecting too much from people who didn't receive proper training for his job. I honestly don't care about the suing, its just that he hasn't apologized for his behavior. He still doesn't realize the consequences of his behavior.
Not saying he deserves death threats, but there is a reason nobody among his staff cared if he got one. The consequences aren't delivered from god himself, its just payback. I never said it was right. It's kinda like someone is a bully in high school so he gets beaten up by someone. Not saying the guy who beat him up should've done that, but its karma! Like karma from his secretaries for being a shitty human. However, the past of the secretaries and NGJ does not give them the right to do any of the terrible things any of them have done.
Yeah we don't know why Segi's sister is dead but he believes NGJ is the reason and is retaliating. Just goes to show even his best friend for years knows how much of an ass he is. I appreciate the author showing his growth is not just because of Sina.
Of course there will be character development, can't wait to see it! I really want to see him grovel, hate his type of people irl (this is dramaland so lol)
I find it interesting about the talk of the real culprit. In the end the real culprit is NGJ! His actions caused everyone around him to hate him. Not going to praise any of the actions of the others but they all have their reasons. OSG lost his sister, The guy who hit him with his car was fired and insulted, all of his sectaries were treated like trash, same with all of his employees.
Only one that is actually crazy is BSY. Idk why she thinks he would want to be with her after he has lost everything?!? I get that maybe she was forced to break up with him but why would she blame him for not wanting to get back with her? Its his fault?!?! I'm so confused lol.
I agree with NGJs idea that nobody will learn their lesson if they are allowed to escape the consequences every time. However, doesn't he see the pattern? Everyone is retaliating against him and he does not even apologize. Sure sue them, but at least admit your wrongdoings.
I predict that the math teacher that was fired (the one who was crying, has a son) will also maybe try to commit suicide or will be put in harms way. NGJ will save her last minute after finally seeing what he has done to others.
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If I can explain... in the beginning complains about having his power cut off or something and once he gets it back he just wants to chill. So all he wanted was just power, didn't want anything to do with it... okay strike one!
Then he complains about not being let into Jinyowon, but once he is in, he wants to rest and go home, he has no complains that they're letting him do this... strike two!
Then when the soul shifter problem with the guy that is dead but not dead happens, he is excluded from the other mages and told to "go home and rest" and he doesn't like that... strike three! You can see the selfishness and immaturity of his character because of the way he grew up not having any of that responsibility that comes with power.
It doesn't completely bother me though because each of these is because he was struggling mentally or physically. He was upset about Mu Deok being mean, or lowkey rejecting his feelings. Its just the hypocrisy of him that makes me giggle. Like sometimes he is against the way they are treating him, other times hes like fine by me.
I like how pushy Mu Deok is with him though, when he is mean to her and tells her he doesn' twant to do it, she tricks him back into working or forcing him. It makes sense though because she needs him more than he needs her, and she even comments on that during their time in that cave house area.
Not specific just like for Seo Yul, he has a calm demeanor, he is a little stand-offish and cold but is not opposed to getting to know her (SPOILER : when he almost let her kiss him AHHHHH) With Go Won, he is someone in a high position (rich$$$ lol), and he likes her unique flattery, weird behaviour, and wants to keep her around.
If anyone can recommend any drama with these male leads I would love that! I haven't seen many korean historical dramas so that would be interesting. As much as I like Jang Uk as the male lead, I wish I could see spin-offs with her going with either of the other guys just because I like characters and the relationship they have with Mu Deok. LET ME KNOW :)))
p.s. I am really enjoying, I like the balance of humor and seriousness, reminds me of vincenzo in that sense haha
Man the comments all sound so good except for the plot holes. I wouldn't mind it if the acting is as good as ya'll are saying, but I just finished the first episode and THE PUNCH LMAOOOO. OMG Why his arm fully extended? What kind of lame punch was that?! Everyone was saying his acting is good, I don't really see it. Also lowkey pisses me off how she is asked to be someone else just because she saved her life. Like thank you but you're the reason I'm in this situation. Should I continue or is the acting at the level I saw first episode cause...
Why didn’t they try lifting kuina up with their hands to touch the top part of the pole. Why didn’t jaagi come back and try something?!?
I see the message, kind of, the purpose of them giving up. There were also like 3-4 messages from that so honestly don’t know what to take away from it. If someone could explain the message, that’s be helpful. Something like do t be afraid, choose your own fate (?!!!), idk…
Also felt there was not much between arisu and the nicked guy for it to be that emotional.. that’s my rant. Otherwise interesting game. Just thought arisu would be a bit smarter. Not a bad ending to it though.
Why did she break up with him? I thought she felt guilty about putting him in that position? Don't tell me she fell out of love with him... it did not look like that at all! I genuinely don't know why she broke up with him. Was it just for the sake of breaking up to move the plot forward? Now a few days later she already dating Raphael? I don't know but it just seems kind of mean. LKJ is just a good person, he doesn't even bother her about it and lets her go. He cares about her happiness, whether it is with him or someone else.
*ACTING: The actors did a great job portraying the many emotions, especially Tan Song Yun! I also appreciate a show where the men are vulnerable and have crying scenes. All the crying scenes were great, not cringe at all, it felt so real I wanted to cry too lol!
* CHARACTERS: The women in this show are all so powerful and diverse in their abilities and positions in life (stay-at-home girlfriend or CEO)
* The mature characters, not 22 year olds as CEOS but people in their 30s-60s! Casting was amazing :)
* PRODUCTION: Some nice camera-work moments that I don't usually see when I watch c-dramas.
*The music is nice, but I didn't really pay attention to OST at all. I liked the music they played during heavy moments though.
* THERE IS ROMANCE, but the main focus isn't love but the relationship between the main characters. I loved their dynamic, they were very interesting to watch and I didn't need any fluff for them as they are mature adults. If you do care about romance, just pay attention! Anyone who likes fast, fluffy romance, this is the opposite, slow and mature!!
*CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!
* REALISM: We don't see mary sue characters who never fail, but we don't see any quitters! They are always fighting and it is very inspiring. They have ups and downs like normal people.
*THE SLIGHT FORESHADOWS: Many shows show a picture of something or make a character do something weird and leave it unexplained, but in this show, each moment has a purpose. I feel fuffiled after watching. I was worried near the end they wouldn't explain this character or something, but they cover most of it.
I really enjoyed this show and wish I can find more Chinese shows with strong, realistic, mature characters, an interesting plot, and of course a lovely romance! The plot is not the same at all but I loved reset, it came out a few months ago and it is also one of my favorite c-drama with a well thought out plot with amazing characters of all ages. I hope people enjoy this show!
Not really a fan of the female lead. She isn't bad, she stays calm most of the time, but doesn't know when to defend herself, actually yell out, or be quiet. One thing I hate is her belief that she is a good person. You're crying when you lose your job because you did your best for him?! No no no no no no no.... you did it so you could be an executive secretary!! Reminds me of in Vincenzo, when Chayoung was part of Wusang firm, doing deeds of a dirty lawyer for money. She is hiding her boss is cheating on his wife, faking sympathy for someone when their child died, you ain't a good person. Don't tell me you did it for his sake, you did it for his and YOUR PROMOTION.
Hopefully it is addressed in this show, the purpose of the secretary. You should answer the question "why do you need to know about me?" Secretaries aren't moms, you don't need to constantly ask about their food, changing their clothes, doing errands for them. She should be relieved he doesn't need someone to do all the ridiculous tasks. I however, would be upset if I was asked to do nothing at my job, that isn't what I got educated for.
I always see it in Asian dramas, main leads meet and have an awkward encounter, and all of a sudden they hate each other? Like they meet again and go "HIM!?!? HER!??!" Like come on... they weren't that rude or annoying for you to scowl at their sight. I know it is for the sake of the story, but come on, it just makes the leads look stupid. Like why are you hating on them, they ain't do nothing wrong,
Anyways, just some things I wanted to mention! I will keep watching, hopefully we can see an epiphany of her realizing what a secretary is and how dumb she was before. However, she is still a better female lead than most!
Not saying he deserves death threats, but there is a reason nobody among his staff cared if he got one. The consequences aren't delivered from god himself, its just payback. I never said it was right. It's kinda like someone is a bully in high school so he gets beaten up by someone. Not saying the guy who beat him up should've done that, but its karma! Like karma from his secretaries for being a shitty human. However, the past of the secretaries and NGJ does not give them the right to do any of the terrible things any of them have done.
Yeah we don't know why Segi's sister is dead but he believes NGJ is the reason and is retaliating. Just goes to show even his best friend for years knows how much of an ass he is. I appreciate the author showing his growth is not just because of Sina.
Of course there will be character development, can't wait to see it! I really want to see him grovel, hate his type of people irl (this is dramaland so lol)
Only one that is actually crazy is BSY. Idk why she thinks he would want to be with her after he has lost everything?!? I get that maybe she was forced to break up with him but why would she blame him for not wanting to get back with her? Its his fault?!?! I'm so confused lol.
I agree with NGJs idea that nobody will learn their lesson if they are allowed to escape the consequences every time. However, doesn't he see the pattern? Everyone is retaliating against him and he does not even apologize. Sure sue them, but at least admit your wrongdoings.
I predict that the math teacher that was fired (the one who was crying, has a son) will also maybe try to commit suicide or will be put in harms way. NGJ will save her last minute after finally seeing what he has done to others.