I have a theory, but idk if this would actually happen:
The discussion regarding the age of each one (born the same year) is the probable solution. Lee Gyeom might be the child of a concubine, but in the end, I bet he is the eldest - perhaps by a few days or even a month. After all, his mom knows the date of his birth even if he does not.
EP 1ok.. i finally started.. and i don't know if i am right or not, but going to bet my money on the funny guy…
If you can avoid spoilers (which means you must avoid MDL), it is very fun to watch, hear the clues (and the red herrings), and try to figure out who is who; who is part of a conspiracy and who is a traitor/spy. I binged the 1st 10 episodes all at once - if you can do so, that would be my suggestion.
Episode 14 Pre-release featuring the lovely Shi-yeol and Jung Hoo. I only understand a few words, but I understand exactly what is happening and what they are saying. The proverbial Calm Before the Storm.
The kiss was so sweet. I was waiting for it after it almost happened twice. And in the end she was the one that…
I think the writers have made it clear that Shi-yeol is the Watchman from 8 years ago - just too many statements and references that support that position. And really nothing to indicate that he was NOT the Watchman 8 years ago. I say 95/5 that he is the Watchman.
After that epic reveal at the end of Ep. 10, it would be infuriating for the writers to say - Surprise! We were just kidding. It was really someone else that killed her fiance.
i guess one of the best ways to get out of this conundrum is if Tae-hwa's son was actually a real creep who simply wanted to get into a noble family. Nothing hinted at in the flashbacks, except - when teen Lee Seol asked the Watchman to spare Jang Hyeong's life, he STILL tried to kill the boy that wanted to stop the bloodshed.
The kiss was so sweet. I was waiting for it after it almost happened twice. And in the end she was the one that…
I believe Shi-yeol will put 2+2 together at the end of Ep.. 14 - end of Ep. 15 at the very latest. After what he said today (never doubt my sincerity), I'm pretty sure that he will disappear from the Guesthouse because he will fear causing her even more heartbreak if she finds out he killed the fiance. A noble man sacrificing his happiness - it's the story arc that makes the most sense to me. Plus it means he will spend time watching, spying, protecting - all from the shadows.
I also wonder if there is more to the story of the fiance. I never understood Shi-Yeol's statement that he remembered the song/melody after hearing a "wanderer" sing it at a tavern.
I sense something between Jang Ho and Bong Nim in the future after Jang Hoβs divorce with that witch.
That's been my thought as well.
Side note: First time I saw Kim Hye Ok was WWWSK (Secretary Kim). She was lovely as the chaebol mother - loving, kind, soft-spoken.
What a change to playing Bong Nim! Totally different character, but even so when she was doing exercises in the school yard, she was moving gracefully.
I started to watch this drama last summer because of the rave reviews, but couldn't get all the way through the 2nd episode. I knew it wasn't exactly like Louisa May Alcott's book, but I thought the characters would have SOME redeeming character.
Returned this weekend because I discovered that Kang Hoon was in the cast. This time around, I didn't hit the FF button until. . . about Episode 5 or 6. And then it seemed to go off the rails. The body count began to multiply. In-joo's singular focus on money was one-dimensional. The teens didn't keep me interested. So, I FF through quite a bit with a focus on In-kyung (middle sister) and Kang Hoon character because they were trying to solve a mystery or multiple mysteries. And Do-il because there were many layers to him - but we really didn't much below the top 2.
Top notch production (Studio Dragon, after all) and good acting. But the story tried to weave together many separate narratives and it simply wasn't cohesive or even believable in the end.
For me, worth the watch for Kang Hoon, Nam Ji Hyun and Wi Ha Joon and therefor not a total waste of my time. 5β.
This was published two days ago in advance of today's episode (Ep. 13).
"The production team said that #KangHoon and #ChoHyeJoo are amazing actors who have already transformed into characters when they arrived on the set. The set has been enriched thanks to the two's intense chemistry "
Truth.
Meanwhile, today I FF through all of the scenes with just Dan-oh and Kang San. I estimate it was at least 25% of the show and all "filler" (that is, didn't move the story forward or reveal anything new).
for those who are on Team Shi-yeol/HongJoo, here is a small gift - still cuts from episode 13. "siyeol [sic] and hongjoo spotted at their first date without hongjoo wears a man's hanbok"
"the production team said that #KangHoon and #ChoHyeJoo are amazing actors who have already transformed into characters when they arrived on the set. the set has been enriched thanks to the two's intense chemistry "
Same ! They always do this in dramas, as long as the main couple get their happy ending, no one else matters,…
Haha, I know that I, for one, posted that this drama would get a 1β from me if Shi Yeol dies. And if he lives but doesn't get a happy ending with Hong Ju, I won't be able to muster anything more than a 2β.
Nevertheless, I'm convinced Shi Yeol IS the Watchman that killed Hong Ju's fiance and I'm also convinced he doesn't realize it yet. In fact, Kang San is the only one (I believe) who has all of the information except he hasn't connected the dots yet.
On other sites (Reddit/Dramabeans) and even here on MDL, the "main" couple just isn't cutting it for many viewers and Team Shi Yeol is very, very large. I think they will get happy ending, but it will be rushed and forced to the side in order to promote the boring, immature main couple.
Ok, I feel like I'm still in the Matrix for real. Now, was that never Kyojin the whole time but Pyo. Did he really…
I put this show on hold long ago (Ep 3?), tried to follow along via the internet (big fail, hard to find recaps on the internet). At the time I said I won't watch if anything happens to Do Jin. I also predicted long ago that many of the memories - or even real time experiences - would be due to brain chips/brain patches/whatever.
So, glad to know Do Jin is still alive. Looks like I was right at least some of the brain chip/patch stuff. If this comes to Hulu in the US, I'll binge watch it.
Just one question - when you said "chairman", who do you mean? I thought he (Jang Geun Mo) was dead - killed by Jae Hyun. But perhaps there is another chariman that has since appeared?? The only reason I ask is that the Geun Mo actor is one of my favorites.
I don't mind spoilers - in fact, I prefer to watch these sorts of thrillers w/plenty of spoilers but this is a show that appears to have few fans on the internet that want to discuss it.
Now do Shi Yeol's parentage! I have a theory - a crazy one, but need to re-watch a few scenes.
I just now posted my latest thoughts regarding the specific individual in the Discussion Topics. But, I gave up the idea about him being Shi Yeol's father. π
Now do Shi Yeol's parentage! I have a theory - a crazy one, but need to re-watch a few scenes.
I abandoned my crazy theory about Shi Yeol's father - who I believed to be the Chief of the Royal Guard Kim Hwan. But I do believe Kim Hwan Guards is protecting the Watchman/WatchMEN. I just now posted a new Discussion Topic with my thoughts.
Now do Shi Yeol's parentage! I have a theory - a crazy one, but need to re-watch a few scenes.
After re-watching all 12 episodes, I changed my mind about Shi Yeol's parentage. But, I did create a new Discussion Topic regarding the individual in question.
I'm having a hard time getting into this one... FL comes off as sanctimonious and hard to like. Tired of the over-done…
This was on my watchlist because of two actors from Alchemy of Souls (Park So Jin andJoo Sang Wook). Not a fan of Yoo In Ah, but I took a chance and after the 4th episode, this is on my "watch-as-soon-as-aired/released" list.
If you need something different - there are probably 20 other k-dramas airing right now. So many options, so little time. πππ
Hope you enjoy the journey.
Enjoy.
https://twitter.com/kanghoonarchive/status/1653204733732192257
Jin Ki Joo? A big plus and worth trying.
Now, if only Viki would come through, lol. π
After that epic reveal at the end of Ep. 10, it would be infuriating for the writers to say - Surprise! We were just kidding. It was really someone else that killed her fiance.
i guess one of the best ways to get out of this conundrum is if Tae-hwa's son was actually a real creep who simply wanted to get into a noble family. Nothing hinted at in the flashbacks, except - when teen Lee Seol asked the Watchman to spare Jang Hyeong's life, he STILL tried to kill the boy that wanted to stop the bloodshed.
I also wonder if there is more to the story of the fiance. I never understood Shi-Yeol's statement that he remembered the song/melody after hearing a "wanderer" sing it at a tavern.
Deborah and JuHwan
Soo Hyuk and Yoo-ri
Yu-jung and hubby
Bo Mi and Jin Ho
Next 8 episodes: Deborarh and Soo Hyuk
We will probably revisit JuHwan and his bimbo together with Yu-ri and her new BF.
I just don't see where Sang Jin and Bank U-ri fit into this because it would be icky if they DID have any sort of relationship.
we haven't seen anything yet because sooner or later, the biological father is going to come back into the picture.
Side note: First time I saw Kim Hye Ok was WWWSK (Secretary Kim). She was lovely as the chaebol mother - loving, kind, soft-spoken.
What a change to playing Bong Nim! Totally different character, but even so when she was doing exercises in the school yard, she was moving gracefully.
Returned this weekend because I discovered that Kang Hoon was in the cast. This time around, I didn't hit the FF button until. . . about Episode 5 or 6. And then it seemed to go off the rails. The body count began to multiply. In-joo's singular focus on money was one-dimensional. The teens didn't keep me interested. So, I FF through quite a bit with a focus on In-kyung (middle sister) and Kang Hoon character because they were trying to solve a mystery or multiple mysteries. And Do-il because there were many layers to him - but we really didn't much below the top 2.
Top notch production (Studio Dragon, after all) and good acting. But the story tried to weave together many separate narratives and it simply wasn't cohesive or even believable in the end.
For me, worth the watch for Kang Hoon, Nam Ji Hyun and Wi Ha Joon and therefor not a total waste of my time. 5β.
"The production team said that #KangHoon and #ChoHyeJoo are amazing actors who have already transformed into characters when they arrived on the set. The set has been enriched thanks to the two's intense chemistry "
Truth.
Meanwhile, today I FF through all of the scenes with just Dan-oh and Kang San. I estimate it was at least 25% of the show and all "filler" (that is, didn't move the story forward or reveal anything new).
"siyeol [sic] and hongjoo spotted at their first date without hongjoo wears a man's hanbok"
https://twitter.com/kanghoonarchive/status/1652161448465022976
Also, from the production team:
"the production team said that #KangHoon and #ChoHyeJoo are amazing actors who have already transformed into characters when they arrived on the set. the set has been enriched thanks to the two's intense chemistry "
Nevertheless, I'm convinced Shi Yeol IS the Watchman that killed Hong Ju's fiance and I'm also convinced he doesn't realize it yet. In fact, Kang San is the only one (I believe) who has all of the information except he hasn't connected the dots yet.
On other sites (Reddit/Dramabeans) and even here on MDL, the "main" couple just isn't cutting it for many viewers and Team Shi Yeol is very, very large. I think they will get happy ending, but it will be rushed and forced to the side in order to promote the boring, immature main couple.
So, glad to know Do Jin is still alive. Looks like I was right at least some of the brain chip/patch stuff. If this comes to Hulu in the US, I'll binge watch it.
Just one question - when you said "chairman", who do you mean? I thought he (Jang Geun Mo) was dead - killed by Jae Hyun. But perhaps there is another chariman that has since appeared?? The only reason I ask is that the Geun Mo actor is one of my favorites.
I don't mind spoilers - in fact, I prefer to watch these sorts of thrillers w/plenty of spoilers but this is a show that appears to have few fans on the internet that want to discuss it.
Thanks in advance.
If you need something different - there are probably 20 other k-dramas airing right now. So many options, so little time. πππ