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You do know IU getting Oscar is not possible unless she shifts into acting and featuring in movies first public exhibition in a theatrical setting on top of that getting casted, supported by company, get nominated and actually getting voted by staff to win. Also not part of actors guild, have no connections and friends in the business and so on. With her current and probably future contract this is already basically not getting past 1st step of getting an Oscar.

So far in history only one male korean actor was ever nominated but lost for Oscars and he is American actor Steven Yeun and only one supporting korean actress Youn Yuh-jung got nominated and won it but she is acting for over 50 years and has American agent and so on. Both for same movie Minari that's it.

TLDR odds of IU getting Oscar is basically non exsistant and pursuing one is financially ridiculous and hard that would require career shift, with low success at cost of stable career in current setting.

I didn't say anyone should turn back on him I just said that I would no longer be friend with him. I would keep distance and be friendly towards him if her interacted with me. It's sorta relationship out of pity not actual real connection.

You do realise that if ML wasn't undercover agent Min would legit be OK to ruin life / career of only person that tried to help him. Even second time after their talk he was still OK with destroying someone else's life when asked officially for statement because he was afraid of bully. It's disingenuous to say you would stay friend with that person in real life and be able to trust them not to act with their self interest when pressured again to cause more harm to you again ?

It's absolutely absurd to be OK to destroy someone else's young life over being afraid of bully threat that is very unreal. While bullying may make you into such self destructing and passive person it also makes you toxic to anyone close to you by association. At this point you are legit enabling bully behavior and giving more control to do even worse things to you over slight change he way do something to granny which is very unlikely scenario.

To be honest reason why bullying in Korea is so bad because most people are so passive, timid and without any balls so they enable bully behavior combined with hyper critical behavior and other toxic bs in Korea.

Korea likes fate bs.

Dong-min not being able to stand up for himself and get bullied I understand and I get how psychologically your messed up after that but come on turning on only friend that helped you in order to appease bully I can't ever trust guy like that ever again to count on. Legit being okay to throw under the bus only innocent guy that helped you. If ml was also weak I bet Dong-min would join bully and pick on him as new target just so he doesn't get bullied anymore.

I get that this happens but if you are that weak minded you just can't be helped and can't be trusted to he around. Also I don't get how in kdrama bully get enabled so much it seems borderline unrealistic.

Now I get why weak minded person like dong min would do that and I am completely fine with that and I understand it. I would accept it but realistically we ain't staying friends after that. I wouldn't hold a grudge but relationship is not the same after that because he legit decided to selfishly protect his self interest by harming innocent person and destroying their academic career. This is why it's so hard to help people like him because risk of getting burned is high and odds of getting good trusting relationship is low even if it turns out mostly good so overall it's just not rewarding relationship to go into with ton of baggage and angst mostly relationship out of pity without respect and trust.

I don't watch interviews or follow any of that but it was cultural shock. Looks like in Korea this is common knowledge. It's the new horoscope replacement that I also dislike.

Lol why do all these people talk about personality types like it's a common thing to know. I was completely lost yet everyone seem to know about it.

They needed people hooked to watch till end so they edit and remove stuff that would make things obvious to create artificial tension and drama.

Any good ones you recommend?

Yeah it looks like she was projecting on ML. Since she kept saying how she wants to divorce ML and day dreaming about other guys she kinda assumed ML is cheating when she saw him with female friend which is big leap. She instantly came to conclusion not to trust him and thinking he cheated because that would make her feel better about herself.

Normal person usually doesn't come to those conclusions unless they have that way of thinking and project on others and asume others would do the same or they feel guilty about something.

As I said question isn't if it's scripted but how much manipulation is there. Seems like most people say it's scripted when it's very on the nose obvious AF and badly done.

Every single member on the cast is under actors contract agreement even if they are not professional actors and are under contract to do whatever they tell them to get the shot or manipulate stuff in edits. On top of NDA most likely so most won't breach contract and go along with it. Even then mildest scripted shows have producers around moving the narrative if needed because no one will green lit and give you budget without assurance to get useful footage for the season. So even shows that are not that scripted get manipulated by producers sometimes giving slight nudges towards directions or setting up stuff and so on, not to mention big manipulation done in edit room.

So at best it's like a loose improvisation play with editing manipulation. Tbh just with editing you can change narrative a lot. You could make 3 min date segment and just cut together reactions of 2 people akward moment or weird faces but cut out 95% of time they were vibing and cool. Or like almost every close up in reality show can be insert that is completely unrelated so when someone makes reaction it could not even be from what the other person is talking at the moment and so on..

You can also legit gaslight audience and make one person look like they are losing their mind and over reacting full on making them the bad guy by cutting out provocation of other person and putting in mostly nice segments showing other person in good light.

If you shooting all day with multiple cameras you will find everyone on good and bad day so you can put together whatever you need for the drama.

Idk which part you disagree with but as someone who works in the industry reality show being scripted / manipulated is not opinion but objective fact.

No, it's natural to expect that every single reality show is scripted / manipulated. Only question is how much not if.

ML didn't make any issue out of it because she didn't even tell him about it 🤣 so we don't know how he would react.

But I personally find 1 night hook up without emotion not as bad as if my partner was catching feeling for someone..

You can't say there is no cheating and then follow up with there being emotional cheating. So there is cheating and FL who actually emotionally cheated gets completely ignored and not addressed at all in the show getting a pass and only ML gets bs and he didn't even do anything and she trust him so little she snoops on his phone, etc..

Tbh both plots with side leads were waste of time and pointless and just filler and added nothing but I in general found FL behavior very off-putting and would need a lot to get trust back.

I am not saying people can't fall in love or later date but initial primary intent of the show is not really that as priority. I know how reality show business works behind the scene. Most things are heavily guided with atleast vague script and producers interjection or guidance offscreen when needed to create something.

Show primary goal is to create content to entertain people under specific format with guideline of producers who set the stage for cast members.

I am not saying they are full on acting but they are kinda performing under very lose controlled improvised play and are sometimes being guided what to do or gaslight behind the screen. Also leading interview questions that give specific clips and maybe drama after.

Every single cast member is under actors contract and is getting paid as actor for this show despite not being an actor. This means they are under contract to also ensure to follow contract guidelines and other on set instructions.

Everything in reality show production is heavily manipulated specially in editing with completely out of context reaction cuts and audio tracks, deleted context to make someone else look bad, and so on. For example editor can from all the footage of the date edit together only akward and silent moment and hide 90% of the time with great chemistry. This was actually done in season 3 of this show as one example with Hyeseon and Wonik.

Most people who date after the show are together because of excitement from show or to milk shipping content from fans and eventually usually break up when it dies down. It's usually also financially or career beneficial or have other hype support that rides the high.

People are forgetting that this is not real or serious. They live for like a week which is no time to make any serious connections and are kinda there together mostly performing. It's like an improvised play for entertainment with producer general instructions, where members get paid and are there mostly for exposure to their business or them as a influencer / more acting roles or whatever.

That is like saying you were 2nd in 3 man race. It's not even a month and this is just 2 episodes so it doesn't mean much to be best so far in a year when not much is out 🤣 I am not saying it's bad but this weird thing for you to say 😂

It's basically done for content and to promote theirselfs. Show is also very game like and their interactions are limited during week or two of them being together.

On top of that career wise staying single is way more profitable so keeping relationships hidden is probably the way to go anyway even if something happens.

But yeah you can't expect anything real coming from such setting.

Netflix

It gets worse after halfway like basically almost every kdrama.