LadyIgraine

oh my, Juwon and Yujung in the backseat of the car 😱😍🥰😊.

I guess it’s possible that they could be end game 👩🏻‍❤️‍👨🏻 🤔?!

Totally! Idk why the panelist thought he was reassuring Yujung, cuz that’s not how I picked up that conversation at all. I interpreted it as Juwon trying to salvage his option (which was Yujung) after his ex (who played with his emotions) decided she really didn’t wanna get back together with him after all. It would have been believable had he apologized to Yujung, and admitted he strung her along, only to be swayed by his ex in the end. Instead, he glossed over the situation by telling her how the days they’d spend together where he’s happiest. Somehow, it sounded like a cop-out, but I think Yujung read the room that’s why she just smiled at him. It sucks to criticize Juwon, cuz he’s really a nice guy, but if Yujung at least meant anything to him, he should have given her the proper respect. But even then Yujung still gave him the benefit of the doubt, and supported his decision.

"Yu Jung should leave the show single."

I wish that was an option, but I believe the rules of the show is they MUST pick someone to confess to at the end, regardless of the outcome. I believe this was alluded when Dahye had a private convo with Dongjin at their lodging. She stated how she needs to clarify who Dongjin is leaning towards, otherwise, she'll have to pick Changjin in the last day.

"Seo Kyung treating Ju Won like shit and breaking his heart again and again for the entire season then gets angry when he msgs Yu Jung. Even during the truth or dare, she was nothing but toxic and him being the biggest retard of the show to keep running back to her. You are getting a phenomenal girl like Yu Jung but you want the toxic mess of a Seo Kyung. Dude deserves the misery he gets from her."

Couldn't have said it better. It sucks that he couldn't man up to her and dragged Yujung all the way at this point, only to break her heart for the sake of getting back together with his ex. He doesn't deserve Yujung, and I hope watching the show now, he comes to a realization of what his ex had been doing behind his back. Even knetz don't want Yujung to pick Juwon because they too don't think it's fair to her she invested all her feelings to him, only to be subjected to the mess with his ex, and make her out like his back up plan.

"Yu jung's message to him for me made me realize that she's not choosing him and only thanking him for making this experience fun for her."

Same. As much as I would like a Juwon-Yujung end game, I don't think it's gonna happen. Yujung most likely had a realization (after the Truth Game) that Juwon is not in the same page as her, this whole time. I'm inclined to think that the preview of her talking to Dahye, and stating something like "holding on to something, that it's not working," is probably in reference to Juwon. This whole time, she's been the most understanding about Juwon's feelings, but after he confess that there's no other person who he had feelings for through out the show (besides his ex), that was devastating to hear. Even then, and true to her nature, she thanked him for the memories (no bitterness). I felt as a viewer, since moving to Jeju, he took her for granted because she was readily available to him. I don't know if you felt the same, but looking back at the beginning, I noticed that Juwon always had a hold on her in a subtle way. When he found out that Yujung agreed to hang out with Dongjin, he jokingly told her "I'm annoyed," to her and told her to come back asap. When she told him Kwangtae asked her on a date, he told her "ok, I wont think too much about it." And when she again went on a date with Kwangtae in Udo, he subtly warned her about not falling for him, and to not have too much fun. Those were the attributes she adored about Juwon, the reassurance she thought was his strength is what made her fall for him. But if he's not ready to move on even after spending those memorable 3 weeks with her, it's better she let go of him. She'll pick Changjin due to his consistency, but I don't think they'll get back together after the show. This aligns to all those spoilers that's been spreading around when each episodes were airing. Also, there were alleged sightings of Yujung, Dahye, Juwon since last month, which could mean different things. Here's an interesting possibility; what if Yujung picked Changjin in the final episode, but Juwon and her reconnected after the show - and are likely dating given that the alleged sightings involved Juwon and his acquaintances?! But we'll have to wait to find out, until this season ends in 2 more excruciating weeks.

"I think the whole essence of the show from the beginning has really been disappointing."

I recently read a lengthy spoiler posts about the final couples. And that the overall sentiments of Korean viewers (just like us international viewers), is extreme disappointment with the direction of this season. Apparently, the finale will cause viewer outrage when it finally airs due to how this whole time, the narrative that the production this season push us to believe, will have an opposite outcome. Which takes away what the true meaning of this dating show, and that it's looking as similar as other K-dating shows nowadays. They all have the PD to blame for the loss of its spark, unlike the previous season.

I initially didn’t like Yujung in the beginning, but as the episodes go by, she definitely changed my view of her. I thought she was the type to be conceited, but she proved herself to be a 1 man kind of woman. But what made me respect her the most was her transparency to Juwon, and didn’t asked anything more than that. She understood (this was alluded during the Yujung - Seokyung convo) that Juwon would pick his ex over her (which was painful 😢 to hear) if Seokyung becomes honest with her feelings about] reuniting. What I got from that revelation was, Yujung is willing to let go of Juwon if his ex comes back in the picture. To me, that’s an admirable decision. I feel like Yujung understood that although she like Juwon a great deal (and he does too), but if he still hasn’t close that chapter with Seokyung, then she’d be willing to sacrifice her feelings and step away from him. Their situation reminds me a lot of one of my favorite Turkish drama, “Gunesin Kizlars,” Savas & Nazli are like Juwon & Yujung to me ☺️.

I’m not gonna get into Seokyung’s antics😤, because I already knew this was inevitable with her. But Juwon also needs to take accountability for allowing this situation to escalate, when he could have mediated the situation by stepping in when Seokyung was exposing him (in front of Yujung) about the “text” fiasco. That’s so disappointing 🤦🏻‍♀️. If he truly cares for Yujung, then he needs to salvage whatever feelings she still might have for him. Because at this point, he doesn’t deserve her. I think Yujung texting Changjin was a silent stance to let Juwon know that she’s not gonna be taken for granted like that too easily.

Juwon needs to sort out whatever feelings he still has for SeoKyung fast. It's not fair to YuJung when she's been the one who's transparent about her feelings to him. But I'm also aware that what we see on each episode, is not entirely everything. When SeoKyung came back to the lodging with HwiHyun & KwangTae, one of the boys (I can't remember which one of them), spoke how Juwon & YuJung are super close, so the show is likely omitting certain aspects of their interactions; and same for Juwon & Seokyung. They definitely have interactions that aren't being shown for the sake of the narrative. As for SeoKyung and her villain-era; I hate that she's resorting to this type of behavior knowing how she can potentially swayed Juwon back to her. She's obviously jealous of the two, and that's human nature unfortunately. I can't fault her for that, but K-netz will eat her alive after these episodes, and the next episodes to come if she continues to act in this manner. We have to keep in my mind, that we are viewing this show as an international perspective, in the end of the day, it's a Korean show, with a Korean casts, so the Korean sentiment could be different from what we (international fans) might feel about these casts. In fact, YuJung, Dongjin, Dahye, Juwon (being the most popular) are fan favorites in Korea. With that said, I still feel hopeful about YuJung & Juwon being the end game. There's still certain events that have yet to be seen (which they showed on the trailer), that leads me to think this. Plus, I think the production are making it seem like the tide is turning on a different direction, but is just to maybe shake up their current environment for the drama. But who knows...

same. at least I’m rooting for Juwon & Yujung, even the knetz are fans of them. But I’ve been seeing scenes of the next episodes in pieces, and it’s making me 😔. knetz are commenting about the text messages after the ex reveal, which is not favorable. Changjin seems heated after finding out Juwon is the guy Yujung is developing feelings for. This is what I was worried about from last week 😣.

spoilers aside. does anyone here want a couple ending of their choice? here are my couple ending faves:

Juwon & Yujung (I pray that they stay consistent and be the REAL end game!)

Dongjin & Hyewon (it's a long shot, but I do feel that these two could foster something between them)

Changjin & Dahye (They got potential, if they look past their exes tbh)

*Side Note: OMG 😍, i just saw a clip of Juwon & Yujung’s trip to Jeju. They look really close, especially during the flight. They heard a kid cry, and I’m not fluent in Korean, but I could have
sworn Yujung said she can’t wait to have kids. And when Juwon asked, she wants both a girl and a boy.” Feel free to correct me when the episode comes out. And on the contrary, his new 💇🏻‍♂️ isn’t that bad either.

Also, ep 13 showed lots of the exes arguing with each other. They showed the new guy as well, and Kwangtae’s ex ( but she’s blurred out).

this episode is like the left over from the last episode; nothing major really happened.

Kwangtae is at this point, obsess with Yujung. He's like these characters in kdrama, where they start developing a one-sided feelings for the FL, but not in a healthy way. He needs a reality check, but we'll have to wait until Jeju for that to happened.

As expected, Dongjin & Dahye's ex-room is full of well documented memories of them together. Seeing all that, I can now appreciate them as a couple, and the sacrifices they did together to keep it going all those years - through good times & bad times.

I agree with everyone stating Hyewon has low-self esteem. Her and Hwihyun's relationship is exactly like their ex-room; "nearly empty." But because of her nature, she doesn't have the courage to move on. I feel like she should look into getting therapy after this show is done to know her self-worth. I remember my high school science teacher, everyday before our class is over, she would take time to give us a little encouraging words of wisdom. She would always add, "you guys are precious than gold, diamonds, and all the gems in the world." Looking back at it now, that's basically telling us, "every person has their worth, so don't sell your self short." I wish I could say that to Hyewon.

Because Changjin is older, he feels entitled to talk down to Yujung. I understand if he's going through a tough time when they were together, but I don't think he should kept it to himself, then blames Yujung for not understanding him, when all she wanted is to be a supportive girlfriend. Just like she said during one of the interviews, she likes Juwon because he gives her "conviction." She likes the open communication, and Changjin is not the type to communicate what's going on with him when he's met with a personal crisis. Ironically enough, he took a liking to Juwon because of his personality, not knowing he's "the" guy that Yujung is falling for. I hope Changjin doesn't give Juwon a hard time when they finally reveal who are the exes.

*Side note: Did anybody low-key thought Yura & Giseok (aka Simon D) are both dating, when they were petting the cat?"* LOL!!!

just saw the preview for ep 12; it’s their trip/transfer to Jeju.

Lots of interesting stuff happening. and NOW, I can see where these spoilers are coming from 😫.
It’s kind of beginning of the end for some 😢.

I can't help but feel good about Juwon & Yujung seeing them together. They seem to have the most natural progression, in terms of getting closer, and building romantic feelings for each other. Which brings me to question the "alleged" spoilers about their final choices. Even if the female catfish decides to pursue Juwon's affection, I don't think it would make enough impact on him to pick her in the end. Let's face it, Yujung is beautiful, and it's no surprise most of the men in the house are attracted to her, but she's consistently been very firm with whom she's attracted to (Juwon); she doesn't give any of the men any wrong signals (except Kwangtae), and have always kept it casual when they go "hang out" with her. The only people who would stand a chance between them would be their respective exes. Unless, Changjin goes hard on pursuing Yujung back, that she would feel move by it to get back with him.

Anyone felt kind of creep out that Kwangtae went to the Personal Room to find out about Yujung's personal stuff? I was like, "oh no, he found out before Juwon 1st!" Lmfao.

I read a new "spoiler" ending for some of the contestants, including Juwon's outcome post the show. I don't wanna elaborate too much, out of respect for some of the fans who are tuning in every episodes.

idk if anyone can confirm this, but I read that she & Hajeong of Single's Inferno, are from the same modeling agency.

Seokyung & Juwon dated for at least 3 years, and they've only broken up months prior to participating on the show. I doubt they aren't any feelings lingering; I'd say the hurt is still pretty much fresh at this point. As much as Seokyung likes to deny that she doesn't have any feelings for Juwon, she still does, otherwise, she wouldn't be going around touching other guys in front of him to see his reaction. She's the noona in that relationship, she's good at putting up a front - she damn well knows what she's doing. I think being older gives her advantage in terms of composure, that's what I've observed from her this whole time.

Juwon's spoiler is the catfish; rumored to be Kwangtae's ex. But I recently saw the Yujung-Juwon end game too, which personally, I would love to see. But I won't get my hopes up, lol.

there's quite a few stuff that have been floating around online about "possible end game." also, the production team have been throwing hints here and there; we just didn't catch it up until now, that there's some movements among the participants. like on the 1st episode, there's a scene of Dongjin & Hyewon alone in the living room (they didn't now each other yet), while everyone was outside looking around. Dongjin was looking at the glass window (apparently he was attracted to Yujung at that time), while Hyewon was across the couch sitting quietly. Believe it or not, I jokingly told myself, "could they be...?" But hearing about the two of them recently, now made me realized how that scene could have been a hint to their possible outcome. But it's all speculations at this point, nothing is confirmed right now. But most of the predictions that I've seen a few weeks ago, did turned out to be true - well, at least, some of it did.

Yujung is honestly a surprised to me. I initially thought she would be the jealous type, and in some ways, she can be. But she also is upfront about how she feels, and if she felt let down, or feel uncomfortable. She doesn't hesitate to let it out, it's refreshing to see someone like her feel vulnerable, but also putting the likes of Kwangtae in their place because she recognize his behavior towards her is appalling. That's why she's a fan favorite amongst the Knetz.

I watched ep 9 the second time this morning, and noticed certain scenes I didn't catched the 1st time around:

1. the beginning intro; did anyone noticed the production showed Hyewon, then immediately Dongjin? I heard about the spoilers about them two recently, but it's getting closer to reality.

2. During the toasting when ChangJin was welcomed in the house, Yujung's wine glass was empty, and Juwon was gonna put some, but Kwangtae gave some of his, but she seemed reluctant to accept it, until Juwon just decided to pour some of his to her glass. Then Yujung, sort of scolded Kwangtae by saying, "it doesn't seem right!" Lol. She's definitely setting some boundaries when it comes to Kwangtae, and we now know the scene when he saw the photos that Yujung & Juwon took during date, and how he reacted afterwards. Gave me the creeps when he gently shoved her shoulders, I thought that gave me weird vibes of how he can potentially be a control-freak irl.

3. Hwihyun seems to be dense when it comes to matters of the heart. His age is definitely showing due to lack of maturity on his part. Sharing the candy with everyone, which obviously has sentimental value to his ex, is just down right dumb. I'm glad Hyewon is now finally putting and end to her misery with him.

4. I think Seokyung is sabotaging Juwon's chances of finding another partner in the house, by instigating behaviors she knows would get him jealous. Like she would purposely do skinship or act intimate with the other guys when Juwon is present. I just hope Juwon can fight these urges, but I get that they've only broken up months prior to the start of the show - so the feelings are still there. She also stated she does't want to get back with him, but her actions says otherwise. Deep down she doesn't want to see Juwon move on, and fall for another, so she's trying her best to hook then bait him for her personal amusement. Juwon on the other hand, is risking losing his budding romance with Yujung, by getting hooked back on his ex. The moment Yujung realized Juwon didn't text her, and coincidentally received her ex's text, triggered a defense mechanism on her part, and maybe that's what's causing Yujung to fall back on her ex as well. It's a vicious cycle tbh. And if the alleged spoilers turns out to be true, then the Juwon-Yujung potential is a "miss-opportunity."

5. I just hope Dahye will find her happiness; whether it be with someone "new" or come out of this show with a new perspective when it comes to relationship. Being in a long-term relationship is tough to recover from, but I hope she learns to open up her heart to someone, whether it be in the house, or after the show.

I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but I saw this clip, and it's so cute!

https://youtu.be/MCiPmHe4grA?si=6AtaS3fzPG4o1mNG

Juwon & Yujung's date was cute. It's obvious that they both like each other, but Juwon is still hung up on Seokyung, so their potential romance is pretty bleak. Also, their "couple shoe" date was kind of foreshadowing, cuz in Asian culture, giving or getting shoes from someone is considered bad luck. After my fave ship last season didn't work out, I don't wanna ship anyone anymore. I'm just watching this show for the developments, and whether I like this season or not.

I usually skip a lot of the scenes if I don't care for them, so I just majorly skip all the dates involving Seokyung, lol. So don't come at me haha.

Kwangtae...yeah, still don't care for him. When he read his Ex-Intro letter again, it now got me thinking, maybe this over-confidence is a result of his previous relationship. It kind of implies that the relationship was deficient - and one sided. He probably did majority of the leg work to make it work, but he might have felt like he was still lacking. Could be the basis of why he & his ex broke up. That's probably why he's overcompensating his actions by being "proactive" with his getting to know all the females in the house.

Agree! I don't know why he would do that to both the girls on the same day, but it definitely left a bad impression of him for sure. He seems less suspicious because he doesn't have the "look" that typically is associated with a player.

I did say, "I'm all for him exploring his options." I don't have a problem with him getting to know all the girls, I get the concept. I just didn't like the way he approached the situation. Like I said, he could have, in the least, be discrete about asking some of the girls, but his eagerness to get to know most of them, eventually led up to misunderstandings with another participant. I think that's why some of the viewers (like myself) have expressed a rather indifference towards his agenda. Mind you, in the first episode, he was great. But a few episodes later, he's starting to exhibit certain behaviors that warrants questioning of his own merit. I don't think he's a player either, but he definitely has the freedom to play the game as far as he wants to; he's technically single. But I do think not having his ex-partner in the house (yet) have contributed a lot with the way he's been currently. So far, he doesn't have any inhibitions & concerns, but we'll see when his ex shows up in future episodes.