I think the Manwha had a similar problem - the story was interesting until they got together, then it was just…
Well, in the manwha they're having sex when they live together. As for the show, it could go 2 ways.
1) There could be a scene later on where the boys wake up with no shirts on, indicating they'd gotten naked "to do it" the night before.
2) The director will leave it to our imaginations. You know, he'll let us just assume that any healthy 20 year old males in the same bed would be having sex.
I sort of agree with this, but not entirely. I think it did focus too much on the bullying, which was unpleasant…
Perhaps I'm enjoying the show because I prefer live action to mangas and manhwas. In fact, Cherry Blossoms and The Pornographer are the only 2 that I've ever read. I am an English Professor and I thought that I could not fairly criticize this genre unless I tried it. Thus, I read these 2. To be clear, I do recognize mangas and manhwas as a legitimate art form, and I am not a snob about it. In fact, my alma mater, Columbia University, has a special section in our library for Graphic Novels, which is basically America's version of Asian's mangas. So I respect this literary genre. However, it's just not something that appeals to me on a personal basis.
I prefer novels because I can imagine the characters looking like real human beings. However, once I see the characters as cartoon illustrations, it then becomes impossible to ever see them as real human beings again. Hence, I was so glad that I'd seen the live action of Cherry Blossoms before reading the manhwa, because I was then able to imagine Taesung and Haeboom as real human beings, rather than cartoon figures. As for Semantic Error, I was likewise able to imagine Chu Sang Woo and Jang Jae Young as real human beings because SE was not based on a manhwa, but on a novel.
This pretty much sums up why I am enjoying the live action of CB more than the manhwa. But I also know that some people love manhwas more. Ultimately, it's like many aspects of art in general, insofar as it all comes down to personal taste, right? :)
oh no... they must know that to be in this relationship will be hard until their family support them, but they…
Based on the wording of your question, it looks like you want a spoiler, so I'll give it to you . They have a happy ending. Yay!
At first the parents don't support them, and things are rocky, But then each parent accepts it and it's a happy ending. Since there are only 2 episodes left to the show, I am assuming that they will cut out the dad, because there's no way there's enough time to include everything that happens with him. In the manwha, he does not find out until they graduate college, and Taesung and Haeboom get jobs at his company. A lot of stuff happens with the dad's part of the story, and it's too much to cover in 2 episodes, so they'll have to skip it.
They will probably just include the mom finding out, because she discovers their relationship in their 1st year of college. She is resistant at first, but ultimately accepts it. Then we get out happy ending!
am i the only one who doesnt find this show interesting? compared to the manhwa its so much worse and it just…
I am enjoying it, but I do agree that it feels crammed. I think they should have done less seasons, because it suffers from trying to be overly faithful to every plot point from the manwha. After all, with only 8 episodes of 20 minutes each, it's simply impossible to pack that all in while developing it in a way that lets the story breath.
I read the novel of Semantic Error, and the screenplay cut out a lot from the novel to fit the story into 8 episodes of 20 minutes each. With these Korean web series being so short, they all should cut things out from the source material.
Otherwise, I do like this show. I think it has mood of subdued, tender first love, whereas the manwha had this upbeat, cheery kind of mood . For instance, Haeboom in the show is reserved and gentle, while in the manwha he is this chipper little cutie-pie. So even though the plot is the same, the mood of the show is different. I like the mood, but I can see how somebody like you would dislike the show if this particular mood is simply not your taste.
I loved the new episode and how they gave haebom a bit of an attitude now! My favorite ep so far
Yep, his character is developing. He has more confidence and is more firm now. Likewise, Taesung is less rigid and more easygoing and relaxed. Both characters have changed each other.
I'm so glad more people are finally giving Cherry Blossoms a chance. I kept telling people that it was a quiet, subtle show, which meant it required patience. Thus, one had to stick with it for more than just a couple of episodes. Alas, many people were comparing CB to Semantic Error, and did not watch CBs first 3-4 episodes because SE was still airing.
It was unfair to compare these shows because they have such different styles. SE was energetic and hit you with its humor instantly. CB, conversely, is a slow build because its characters are more subdued, and they have a quiet tenderness in their feelings toward each other. It's the sort of show that slowly creeps up on you and, before you know it, it's totally taken you over.
I see a lot of people saying that they were going to drop it after 2-3 episodes but are glad they did not because now they're hooked. I also noticed that on Viki it only had 6000 viewer ratings as of episode 4, but now has over 7000 viewer ratings. So the show is definitely increasing viewership. Yet I think it deservers even more viewers. I am certainly spreading the word to recommend it to my fellow BL fans!
I have to say that this show is so cute and fun. I really didn’t expect to like it as much as I do. Just light…
I don't think it's a troublesome girl coming up, but a troublesome boy, lol! At any rate, what I am loving is how it's only been 5 episodes out of 8, and yet we've already gotten 2 open mouthed kisses! Usually BL's only give us one open mouthed kiss per a show. Even Semantic Error only gave us one. We got one good kiss in episode 7 of Semantic Error, and then it was a closed mouth kiss at the end of episode 8. It's as if the straight actors have a contract stipulating that there can only be one open mouthed kiss per show, lol. But Cherry Blossom has already given us 2 open mouthed kisses, and there's still 3 episodes left to go! And something tells me these two boys have more affection left to show when they get to college, eh?
The director actually toned this down from how it was in the manwha, where Taesung actually pressed multiple kisses…
You can buy the Cherry Blossom's manwha in English on Tarrytoon's for about $10 per volume (there are 4 volumes). As for Addicted, you can find the English translation for free on Wattpad.
Speaking of "free," the fact is, Americans consume most Asian BL content for free. Which is why the purveyors of East Asian and Southeast Asian BL's don't give a shit about Americans who cannot handle a bit of realism, such as a person losing his temper and shoving his lover. Why should these BL purveyors care about Americans who don't even pay for their shows?
1) We stream Asian shows free on YouTube. I subscribe to Viki, but even that doesn't account for the majority of BL shows, most of which are streamed free in America on youtube.
2) We do not buy the BL tie-in products such as books, posters, stickers, albums, T-shirts, etc. The majority of tie-in revenue is sourced from Asian countries. Next to none comes from America.
3) America does not even sell the products featured in a BL show's product placements. Indeed, the labels on the soft drinks, foods, soaps, etc, are not even written in English, so we cannot understand them, let alone buy them. This is especially significant for the Thai BLs, because product placement is a Thai BL's single largest source of revenue.
I must say, it cracked me up when that one girl above said there was "evidence" of protest against sexual assault in BL's because some Thai women complained about TharnType. Umm, no sweetheart. Perhaps a tiny handful of Thai girls complained. But that's all. This is hardly "evidence" of a protest against sexual assault in BL's. To the contrary, the EVIDENCE proves there has been NO protest against TharnType. Why? Well, because the sequel to TharnType got even higher ratings than the original TharnType did, and even more product placement contracts than the original did.
(1) sequel + (2) ratings + (3) product placement = Three pieces of concrete evidence that there was NO protest of sexual assault for TharnType .
In short, the production companies making these shows do not give a shit about some spoiled, sheltered little American girls who live in such cotton-candy, problem-free worlds that they actually think that a boy shoving another boy against a wall constitutes, ahem, "sexual assault." Grownups living in countries with real problems understand that this is not a big deal.
The director actually toned this down from how it was in the manwha, where Taesung actually pressed multiple kisses…
Discussions about gang rape are an entirely different matter. Of course there are protests about that in third world countries, and in East Asia (which is much better on fighting sexual assault than India is). But I am talking about the popularity of mangas that have scenes of light sexual aggression such as a boy shoving his lover against a wall as Taesung did in Cherry Blossoms -- which, incidentally, is all Taesung did. He simply shoved Haeboom against a wall. That cannot at all be correlated with gang rape.
If one must bring up gang rape to defend their argument when I am talking about light aggression in BL shows and mangas, it means they have completely switched the topic. Accordingly, they have brought up unrelated evidence (ie, gang rape) because they had no legitimate evidence in the realm of the true topic (ie, BL shows and mangas), to support their argument.
Please give me evidence of East Asian people freaking out about light sexual aggression in BL mangas and shows. Because that is the true topic here. If you scroll up, you will see that my original point is that East Asian audiences have no problem with a character shoving his lover against a wall (remember, in the Cherry Blossom manga, that scene is far worse and Taesung forces multiple kisses). The fact that East Asians don't have a problem with this is proven by the enormous popularity of mangas where such scenes occur all the time. If East Asians hated such scenes, they would cease to buy these mangas in droves.
At any rate, you've been very polite and made some good points, so I appreciate your time. Some people get really angry and lose their shit when arguing here. But you remained calm even though we clearly disagree, so thank you :)
The director actually toned this down from how it was in the manwha, where Taesung actually pressed multiple kisses…
True enough, you make a good point when you say that Addicted was not a hit in China, ipso facto, simply because it featured sexual aggression. However, the fact that audiences overlooked this feature of the show (just as readers in East Asia accept sexual aggression as a common feature of the mangas they consume at an enormous rate), indicates that they have no problem with it. If they did have a problem with it, then they would boycott these these works, would they not? The fact that they neither boycott it nor complain about the sexual aggression in these works indicates that they have no problem with it.
The complaints all come from America. Even the people of color who complain about it are all people of color living in America. They are not people of color from the actual East Asian countries. Rather, they are Americans, and American people of color who have been Americanized to spout social justice rhetoric. In short, this is just a lot of Americanized complaining. Nobody living in actual East Asia gives a shit about this stuff. I defy you to find an article in any newspaper or magazine about actual East Asian women living in actual East Asia hating on these Manhas and Manhwas and BL's because they are too sexually aggressive. Again, these are American people of color who have been Americanized to be politically correct.
For example, all of the terminology that the woman above used is American Politically Correct terminology that was created by Women's Studies Departments at American Colleges. Such terminology does not even exist in East Asia. She is employing an entirely American rhetoric to support an entirely American concept, while deluding herself that she's defending third world rights. It's actually quite funny.
The director actually toned this down from how it was in the manwha, where Taesung actually pressed multiple kisses…
I repeat, the show Addicted was an enormous hit in China. In fact, it was such a hit that the Chinese govt freaked out and banned it. And it had intense scenes of sexual aggression. Mangas and Manwhas also typically include scenes of sexual aggression and are hugely popular in South East Asia. If you apply deductive reasoning, it's pretty simple to conclude that Asians have no problem with this. You do know how to apply deductive reasoning, don't you?
Oops, based on your comment above it seems that you do not. So I shall cease responding to you.
I’ll be keeping an eye out for future projects by Dome and especially Vee. They had really good screen presence.…
The only reason I watched was for Dome/Vee and Saen/Aii. Fah/Thorn were utterly dull. So many BL's have side couples that are better than the main couple.
What's the point of introducing a risky storyline if the screenwriters had no idea how to see it through to its conclusion? They just left this storyline dangling in the air with no satisfying resolution. The fact is, they were afraid the uptight Church Ladies would complain if they let Dome/Vee be happy. Well, then why include a forbidden love story in the first place?
The fact is, the screenwriters introduced a hot, forbidden romance, but did not have the courage to let the lovers actually get together. There is a phrase for this. It is called, "Not having the courage of your convictions."
I really like this show, but I can't be the only one who felt very weird after the scene of Taesung forcing himself…
The director actually toned this down from how it was in the manwha, where Taesung actually pressed multiple kisses on Haebum in this scene. In the show, he's only shoving Haeboom against a wall, and not forcing kisses. If the director played the scene as it was in the manwha, I suspect Asian fans would've been fine with it, but American girls would've freaked out.
The Asians are far more comfortable with this sort of thing, so I suspect that the director toned it down in the show because they know that a lot of American women are fans of BL and they wanted to appease those viewers to increase ratings. But the fact is, aggression appears quite commonly in the Asian source material. Asians have no problem with this. Consider how they loved "Addicted" when, meanwhile, Western fans were freaked out by Gu Ha forcing himself on Ba Lu Yin. The Chinese audience had virtually no problem with that whatsoever. In short, it's a cultural difference in the perception of sexual mores.
1) There could be a scene later on where the boys wake up with no shirts on, indicating they'd gotten naked "to do it" the night before.
2) The director will leave it to our imaginations. You know, he'll let us just assume that any healthy 20 year old males in the same bed would be having sex.
I prefer novels because I can imagine the characters looking like real human beings. However, once I see the characters as cartoon illustrations, it then becomes impossible to ever see them as real human beings again. Hence, I was so glad that I'd seen the live action of Cherry Blossoms before reading the manhwa, because I was then able to imagine Taesung and Haeboom as real human beings, rather than cartoon figures. As for Semantic Error, I was likewise able to imagine Chu Sang Woo and Jang Jae Young as real human beings because SE was not based on a manhwa, but on a novel.
This pretty much sums up why I am enjoying the live action of CB more than the manhwa. But I also know that some people love manhwas more. Ultimately, it's like many aspects of art in general, insofar as it all comes down to personal taste, right? :)
At first the parents don't support them, and things are rocky, But then each parent accepts it and it's a happy ending. Since there are only 2 episodes left to the show, I am assuming that they will cut out the dad, because there's no way there's enough time to include everything that happens with him. In the manwha, he does not find out until they graduate college, and Taesung and Haeboom get jobs at his company. A lot of stuff happens with the dad's part of the story, and it's too much to cover in 2 episodes, so they'll have to skip it.
They will probably just include the mom finding out, because she discovers their relationship in their 1st year of college. She is resistant at first, but ultimately accepts it. Then we get out happy ending!
I read the novel of Semantic Error, and the screenplay cut out a lot from the novel to fit the story into 8 episodes of 20 minutes each. With these Korean web series being so short, they all should cut things out from the source material.
Otherwise, I do like this show. I think it has mood of subdued, tender first love, whereas the manwha had this upbeat, cheery kind of mood . For instance, Haeboom in the show is reserved and gentle, while in the manwha he is this chipper little cutie-pie. So even though the plot is the same, the mood of the show is different. I like the mood, but I can see how somebody like you would dislike the show if this particular mood is simply not your taste.
It was unfair to compare these shows because they have such different styles. SE was energetic and hit you with its humor instantly. CB, conversely, is a slow build because its characters are more subdued, and they have a quiet tenderness in their feelings toward each other. It's the sort of show that slowly creeps up on you and, before you know it, it's totally taken you over.
I see a lot of people saying that they were going to drop it after 2-3 episodes but are glad they did not because now they're hooked. I also noticed that on Viki it only had 6000 viewer ratings as of episode 4, but now has over 7000 viewer ratings. So the show is definitely increasing viewership. Yet I think it deservers even more viewers. I am certainly spreading the word to recommend it to my fellow BL fans!
Speaking of "free," the fact is, Americans consume most Asian BL content for free. Which is why the purveyors of East Asian and Southeast Asian BL's don't give a shit about Americans who cannot handle a bit of realism, such as a person losing his temper and shoving his lover. Why should these BL purveyors care about Americans who don't even pay for their shows?
1) We stream Asian shows free on YouTube. I subscribe to Viki, but even that doesn't account for the majority of BL shows, most of which are streamed free in America on youtube.
2) We do not buy the BL tie-in products such as books, posters, stickers, albums, T-shirts, etc. The majority of tie-in revenue is sourced from Asian countries. Next to none comes from America.
3) America does not even sell the products featured in a BL show's product placements. Indeed, the labels on the soft drinks, foods, soaps, etc, are not even written in English, so we cannot understand them, let alone buy them. This is especially significant for the Thai BLs, because product placement is a Thai BL's single largest source of revenue.
I must say, it cracked me up when that one girl above said there was "evidence" of protest against sexual assault in BL's because some Thai women complained about TharnType. Umm, no sweetheart. Perhaps a tiny handful of Thai girls complained. But that's all. This is hardly "evidence" of a protest against sexual assault in BL's. To the contrary, the EVIDENCE proves there has been NO protest against TharnType. Why? Well, because the sequel to TharnType got even higher ratings than the original TharnType did, and even more product placement contracts than the original did.
(1) sequel + (2) ratings + (3) product placement = Three pieces of concrete evidence that there was NO protest of sexual assault for TharnType .
In short, the production companies making these shows do not give a shit about some spoiled, sheltered little American girls who live in such cotton-candy, problem-free worlds that they actually think that a boy shoving another boy against a wall constitutes, ahem, "sexual assault." Grownups living in countries with real problems understand that this is not a big deal.
If one must bring up gang rape to defend their argument when I am talking about light aggression in BL shows and mangas, it means they have completely switched the topic. Accordingly, they have brought up unrelated evidence (ie, gang rape) because they had no legitimate evidence in the realm of the true topic (ie, BL shows and mangas), to support their argument.
Please give me evidence of East Asian people freaking out about light sexual aggression in BL mangas and shows. Because that is the true topic here. If you scroll up, you will see that my original point is that East Asian audiences have no problem with a character shoving his lover against a wall (remember, in the Cherry Blossom manga, that scene is far worse and Taesung forces multiple kisses). The fact that East Asians don't have a problem with this is proven by the enormous popularity of mangas where such scenes occur all the time. If East Asians hated such scenes, they would cease to buy these mangas in droves.
At any rate, you've been very polite and made some good points, so I appreciate your time. Some people get really angry and lose their shit when arguing here. But you remained calm even though we clearly disagree, so thank you :)
The complaints all come from America. Even the people of color who complain about it are all people of color living in America. They are not people of color from the actual East Asian countries. Rather, they are Americans, and American people of color who have been Americanized to spout social justice rhetoric. In short, this is just a lot of Americanized complaining. Nobody living in actual East Asia gives a shit about this stuff. I defy you to find an article in any newspaper or magazine about actual East Asian women living in actual East Asia hating on these Manhas and Manhwas and BL's because they are too sexually aggressive. Again, these are American people of color who have been Americanized to be politically correct.
For example, all of the terminology that the woman above used is American Politically Correct terminology that was created by Women's Studies Departments at American Colleges. Such terminology does not even exist in East Asia. She is employing an entirely American rhetoric to support an entirely American concept, while deluding herself that she's defending third world rights. It's actually quite funny.
Oops, based on your comment above it seems that you do not. So I shall cease responding to you.
What's the point of introducing a risky storyline if the screenwriters had no idea how to see it through to its conclusion? They just left this storyline dangling in the air with no satisfying resolution. The fact is, they were afraid the uptight Church Ladies would complain if they let Dome/Vee be happy. Well, then why include a forbidden love story in the first place?
The fact is, the screenwriters introduced a hot, forbidden romance, but did not have the courage to let the lovers actually get together. There is a phrase for this. It is called, "Not having the courage of your convictions."
The Asians are far more comfortable with this sort of thing, so I suspect that the director toned it down in the show because they know that a lot of American women are fans of BL and they wanted to appease those viewers to increase ratings. But the fact is, aggression appears quite commonly in the Asian source material. Asians have no problem with this. Consider how they loved "Addicted" when, meanwhile, Western fans were freaked out by Gu Ha forcing himself on Ba Lu Yin. The Chinese audience had virtually no problem with that whatsoever. In short, it's a cultural difference in the perception of sexual mores.