This series proves one more time how USELESS the ratings are.The reason why it is downvoted this much is because…
Meaning series like Love Sick 1/2, Make It Right 1/2, Together With Me 1/2, where a lad from a main pair can never break up with his girlfriend, she either has to commit a crime, do extreme cheating, or break up with the lad herself. The love of the lad is always superficial and weak.
The episode 17 is the funniest one because the girlfriend is trying so hard to grasp at her boyfriend while the other lad is third-wheeling the whole time.
She did not want to lose the fight so bad that she has seen the two lads do everything what lovers do except for the most intimate fun itself. But it seems that even if she had seen that she would still pretend she is the girlfriend, LOL.
Tobacco smoking is repulsive.
The end-season dilemma about whether to switch to the job of steward or not is a stretch because this job has big time shifts, so the pair would be still have a lot of time together. He is not going to work abroad. Almost all of lovers worldwide have different jobs and they still thrive.
This series proves one more time how USELESS the ratings are.
The reason why it is downvoted this much is because of sensitive themes it touches, not because it is actually bad. The show is not really any worse than most series rated 8.
The series is good, but not a masterpiece, of course. For example, the key plot is going be the same as in some famous BL series from the last decade.
Also, do we have another absurd case of a twenty five year old suddenly discovering same sex attraction, which is not a thing in real world?
Should not we then campaign to cancel countless works of films and literature that cover the same things or worse?
And, mind you, they almost never end with “Here is your PSA, children, do not be like that”.
The demand for works of fiction to have moralisation and didacticism as if viewers and readers can not think for themselves is infantilising people and deprives them of agency, even though it comes from good intent. As seen from your review, you are kind and caring about those issues.
Life has some ugly things in it, and not all of them happening leads to either consequences or evolution of participants of those acts. So it is great that the series is showing how it sometimes goes in reality.
That said, your review indicates other faults of the series fairly, it is a deeply flawed project.
She's so underrated. I wish GMMTV would give her a main role, instead of putting her in the background all the…
I am watching her when she was under a different agency and was filming Until We Meet Again series. Judging from the photo on this page, she has become healthier since? Good for her then!
The series should have 12 episodes, rather than 17, for tighter storytelling. But it is still worth to watch.To…
Parenets, even crime bosses, do not own you after you turn adult. Just wait a bit to leave it all with your love, or manage your love life in secret, if necessary. Suicide is not understandable in this situation.
Also, the reincarnated lads recognising each other just by looks, even though they are completely different people now, makes no sense. It requires a sort of telepathy between them, but this magic ability is not part of the lore, so it is a plot hole.
WHAT? The main CP is dating, but still can only barely manage kisses on the forehead? This is not how lads work at all. Laughable.
The amount of crying baby Fluke had to do for this role can only compete with Gun’s role in Theory of Love from the same year.
Of course, investigation results should be always in a yellow envelope, though it has been a mail or a message for decades by now.
WHAT? They have made a lad to fall in love with his granduncle?
They have turned one of the lads into a eunuch, refusing intimacy in a situation that no lad would ever do that.
Refusing to hear your backstory while you still having nightmares about it does not make sense.
The grandmother actress is outstanding. A true tearjerker. I have cried in the episode 10 more than any other moment or any other BL series I have ever watched.
Lads who are not incredibly hateful would never strike between each other’s legs even half seriously.
Too bad the story has killed the original pair’s parents (by age, they would be still alive). Meetings with the reincarnates would have been dramatic.
The PSA about condoms in a story where everybody behaves like a castrate looks really contrived and is ineffective for young viewers for this reason.
No males like to do fun things in the dark because the visual component is a great stimulant. Also, the fun nearly never happens during the nights because people love to sleep. No need to wait for this.
WHAT? The uncle does not want his son to hate his grandfather? Why? That old man has driven two people to suicide, which is a literal crime in the books, let alone him being a career criminal his whole life. You absolutely CAN and maybe even should hate him, unless he has spent the decades in regret and sorrow.
The make up team has barely did any job to age or deage the actors.
The series should have 12 episodes, rather than 17, for tighter storytelling. But it is still worth to watch.
To be clear, Buddhism does not work the way this story tells; not possible within the rules of the religion. But the series does not claim to be that, it is just a fantasy that is influenced by Hinduism and, more closely related to Thailand, Buddhism.
The atmospheric music of the series does a lot of work. A great fit by composer Boy Sompob Pokepoon, who does not write somber music usually because the BL genre is, in general, lighthearted.
We have one of the main male characters written as a lady by a lady for the audience of ladies, but it is not believable at all, not even in the slightest.
I imagine the story had lots of good in it, but the beginning is BAD, does not make sense:
it appears that the actor that played ohm (golf watcharaphon phringtrakun) died of skin cancer in 2020 at age…
This was really tragic.
The lad has damaged his leg, and this has lead to the discovery of a skin cancer. It all went downhill through a lot of suffering. Did not have enough money for better treat, but was optimistic. Or was trying to seem.
He was such a cute, innocent person. Hard not to cry.
Usually, I am not a fan of the “mystery” genre because it is a lazy concept/screenwriting that allows to come…
Wait, why a failed orchestra conductor has become a leader in the group?
An island like this should have lots of kinds of fabrics, so it is not believable at all that the youth would have to donate their limited edition Versace clothes to make sails.
Besides, those fabric are much worse for this than curtains or other fabrics that can be easily found in abandoned buildings or among the debree.
One of the lads knows how boats are made, but even a month after the catastrophe they did not start to a make a boat (they even have a library to aid this). Yet they only hope for a damaged boat that is stuck at some rock and was absurdly considered important enough to kill one of the team for.
Actor Mark’s character’s leg is show to be so bad that it is pretty clear it had to be amputated to save his life. Though this condition is not really believable because schools and other buildings on the island have lots of drugs, include all kinds of antibiotics.
WHY everybody allows a psycho lass to arrest a person who is not dangerous at all and claim he is killer, even though he has only participate in an assisted suicide, and it was clearly out of mercy? This whole plot line is ridiculous, not believable at all.
WHAT? They still use accidental pregnancy as a plot vehicle? Especially on a dystopian island?
The very end is so absurd that I can not really bother to discuss it other than saying that the conclusion could have been achieved right away in the very first episode. No need to be round about it for seven episodes. And the gates thing is, of course, nonsense if you think about it even for a second.
A couple of actresses are of European descent, which is rare for Thai productions.Did Netflix thought they need…
Usually, I am not a fan of the “mystery” genre because it is a lazy concept/screenwriting that allows to come up with random things that do not have to be coherent or make any sense, but people will still think you are a genius. And this is how we have got Lost and Twin Peaks series.
The production quality is overall impressive, but with some weirdness. The series is graphic in terms of wounds, but some wounds are not made swollen enough, some a month old corpses do not look like it.
Alive characters overall are too clean, tidy, with makeup, great hairdo, ironed clothes etc, what destroys the submersion into the world the authors are building.
So, WAS IT A COMPLETE NONSENSE? The answer to this question is at the end of the following comment, and it just might surprise you, not:
A couple of actresses are of European descent, which is rare for Thai productions.
Did Netflix thought they need to hedge their risks of public not wanting to watch a series with full Thai cast?
Also, they have made a lass to be a tech genius of the whole team as per the usual agenda, but they did it poorly because even after nearly a month she was not being able to manage solar panels to charge the people’s smartphones. This is not how you respect women, it is pretty insulting, actually. (And, of course, she was made to hate men.)
By this valid virtue signalling American productions make disservice to the cause they claim to pursue with those social politics they insert to everything.
I wish him all the best. He deserves more success. Not only good looking, but he can act.I also read that two…
I am watching Mark and Perth in The Strnded (2019) series from Neflix. Not a BL series, so it is unusual for me. I has also recently watched Golden Picture series that had BL as a key thing, though it is not a BL.
Some like platonic romantic stories, but some like intimate action. I happen to like both. For example, I liked…
Is not adding a GL is relatively recent trend in Thai BL? I have not seeing it before the 2022’ My School President. But I did not watch many productions from this decade yet, including this one.
The trend from the middle of the last decade was to integrate straight couples into the story because agencies/studios were not yet sure of the public was ready to focus solely on BL pairs.
WHAT, a male “does not have a mood today”?The original novel was written by a female for female audience,…
One of the lads all of a sudden pretends to be fifteen and is afraid he will be ousted from the family at the age of twenty five, even though he is fully independent and is supposed to have this huge love for the other lad.
And that other lad has all of a sudden become an irresponsible alcoholic, shopaholic and gaming addict, which was not a case in the first season.
WHAT? They have made the cute lad to keep his even cuter lad as a boyfriend, even though he does not love him, just because he can not break up with him for “no reason”? This is the same stupid plot as the first season and Love Sick and Make It Right series.
The cheating by one of the lads is very realistic and it superb that it was shown here, even though it was hard to watch, I did not like it. The reason being is that males are driven by testosterone that commands with ultimative imperative force, the lust of the modment is absolutely crazy, it is barely possible to fight it back. This is why males cheat way more than females.
And yes, this has nothing to do with love or anything. This can be your mistake and your guilt forever, if you truly love the person you cheated on or at least value fidelity and honesty as principles.
WHAT? A car crash? I mean, a bike crash, and the most ridiculous one. This story part is laughable. The first law of scriptwriting is do not use random car crashes as a plot vehicle, it cheapera your story.
Wow, “you are still my son, even though I hate what you are” is such a warm, heart-felt statement you want to hear from your father. This one surely has deserved Korn giving his apology to the father for being too harsh towards him, LOL.
Wait, do Thai people give their daughters nicknames like Porn? That would fit a male since the age of thirteen or something, but it might be too bold as a female nickname.
The last two episodes are really funny with everyone walking half-naked to seduce the evil gay.
The episode 17 is the funniest one because the girlfriend is trying so hard to grasp at her boyfriend while the other lad is third-wheeling the whole time.
She did not want to lose the fight so bad that she has seen the two lads do everything what lovers do except for the most intimate fun itself. But it seems that even if she had seen that she would still pretend she is the girlfriend, LOL.
Tobacco smoking is repulsive.
The end-season dilemma about whether to switch to the job of steward or not is a stretch because this job has big time shifts, so the pair would be still have a lot of time together. He is not going to work abroad. Almost all of lovers worldwide have different jobs and they still thrive.
The reason why it is downvoted this much is because of sensitive themes it touches, not because it is actually bad. The show is not really any worse than most series rated 8.
The series is good, but not a masterpiece, of course. For example, the key plot is going be the same as in some famous BL series from the last decade.
Also, do we have another absurd case of a twenty five year old suddenly discovering same sex attraction, which is not a thing in real world?
Other issues:
Should not we then campaign to cancel countless works of films and literature that cover the same things or worse?
And, mind you, they almost never end with “Here is your PSA, children, do not be like that”.
The demand for works of fiction to have moralisation and didacticism as if viewers and readers can not think for themselves is infantilising people and deprives them of agency, even though it comes from good intent. As seen from your review, you are kind and caring about those issues.
Life has some ugly things in it, and not all of them happening leads to either consequences or evolution of participants of those acts. So it is great that the series is showing how it sometimes goes in reality.
That said, your review indicates other faults of the series fairly, it is a deeply flawed project.
But it does not mean that the series as whole is amazing, of course.
Just means that the rating of the series is too low because people simply did not like some themes covered.
Also, the reincarnated lads recognising each other just by looks, even though they are completely different people now, makes no sense. It requires a sort of telepathy between them, but this magic ability is not part of the lore, so it is a plot hole.
WHAT? The main CP is dating, but still can only barely manage kisses on the forehead? This is not how lads work at all. Laughable.
The amount of crying baby Fluke had to do for this role can only compete with Gun’s role in Theory of Love from the same year.
Of course, investigation results should be always in a yellow envelope, though it has been a mail or a message for decades by now.
WHAT? They have made a lad to fall in love with his granduncle?
They have turned one of the lads into a eunuch, refusing intimacy in a situation that no lad would ever do that.
Refusing to hear your backstory while you still having nightmares about it does not make sense.
The grandmother actress is outstanding. A true tearjerker. I have cried in the episode 10 more than any other moment or any other BL series I have ever watched.
Lads who are not incredibly hateful would never strike between each other’s legs even half seriously.
Too bad the story has killed the original pair’s parents (by age, they would be still alive). Meetings with the reincarnates would have been dramatic.
The PSA about condoms in a story where everybody behaves like a castrate looks really contrived and is ineffective for young viewers for this reason.
No males like to do fun things in the dark because the visual component is a great stimulant. Also, the fun nearly never happens during the nights because people love to sleep. No need to wait for this.
WHAT? The uncle does not want his son to hate his grandfather? Why? That old man has driven two people to suicide, which is a literal crime in the books, let alone him being a career criminal his whole life. You absolutely CAN and maybe even should hate him, unless he has spent the decades in regret and sorrow.
The make up team has barely did any job to age or deage the actors.
To be clear, Buddhism does not work the way this story tells; not possible within the rules of the religion. But the series does not claim to be that, it is just a fantasy that is influenced by Hinduism and, more closely related to Thailand, Buddhism.
The atmospheric music of the series does a lot of work. A great fit by composer Boy Sompob Pokepoon, who does not write somber music usually because the BL genre is, in general, lighthearted.
We have one of the main male characters written as a lady by a lady for the audience of ladies, but it is not believable at all, not even in the slightest.
I imagine the story had lots of good in it, but the beginning is BAD, does not make sense:
The lad has damaged his leg, and this has lead to the discovery of a skin cancer. It all went downhill through a lot of suffering. Did not have enough money for better treat, but was optimistic. Or was trying to seem.
He was such a cute, innocent person. Hard not to cry.
An island like this should have lots of kinds of fabrics, so it is not believable at all that the youth would have to donate their limited edition Versace clothes to make sails.
Besides, those fabric are much worse for this than curtains or other fabrics that can be easily found in abandoned buildings or among the debree.
One of the lads knows how boats are made, but even a month after the catastrophe they did not start to a make a boat (they even have a library to aid this). Yet they only hope for a damaged boat that is stuck at some rock and was absurdly considered important enough to kill one of the team for.
Actor Mark’s character’s leg is show to be so bad that it is pretty clear it had to be amputated to save his life. Though this condition is not really believable because schools and other buildings on the island have lots of drugs, include all kinds of antibiotics.
WHY everybody allows a psycho lass to arrest a person who is not dangerous at all and claim he is killer, even though he has only participate in an assisted suicide, and it was clearly out of mercy? This whole plot line is ridiculous, not believable at all.
WHAT? They still use accidental pregnancy as a plot vehicle? Especially on a dystopian island?
The very end is so absurd that I can not really bother to discuss it other than saying that the conclusion could have been achieved right away in the very first episode. No need to be round about it for seven episodes. And the gates thing is, of course, nonsense if you think about it even for a second.
The production quality is overall impressive, but with some weirdness. The series is graphic in terms of wounds, but some wounds are not made swollen enough, some a month old corpses do not look like it.
Alive characters overall are too clean, tidy, with makeup, great hairdo, ironed clothes etc, what destroys the submersion into the world the authors are building.
So, WAS IT A COMPLETE NONSENSE? The answer to this question is at the end of the following comment, and it just might surprise you, not:
Did Netflix thought they need to hedge their risks of public not wanting to watch a series with full Thai cast?
Also, they have made a lass to be a tech genius of the whole team as per the usual agenda, but they did it poorly because even after nearly a month she was not being able to manage solar panels to charge the people’s smartphones. This is not how you respect women, it is pretty insulting, actually. (And, of course, she was made to hate men.)
By this valid virtue signalling American productions make disservice to the cause they claim to pursue with those social politics they insert to everything.
Do you like to watch series that are not BL?
And this one has a the falling onto each other cliche that is so funny.
I have seen the chap in Together With Me: The Next Chapter series. He was great, fully convincing.
The trend from the middle of the last decade was to integrate straight couples into the story because agencies/studios were not yet sure of the public was ready to focus solely on BL pairs.
And that other lad has all of a sudden become an irresponsible alcoholic, shopaholic and gaming addict, which was not a case in the first season.
WHAT? They have made the cute lad to keep his even cuter lad as a boyfriend, even though he does not love him, just because he can not break up with him for “no reason”? This is the same stupid plot as the first season and Love Sick and Make It Right series.
The cheating by one of the lads is very realistic and it superb that it was shown here, even though it was hard to watch, I did not like it. The reason being is that males are driven by testosterone that commands with ultimative imperative force, the lust of the modment is absolutely crazy, it is barely possible to fight it back. This is why males cheat way more than females.
And yes, this has nothing to do with love or anything. This can be your mistake and your guilt forever, if you truly love the person you cheated on or at least value fidelity and honesty as principles.
WHAT? A car crash? I mean, a bike crash, and the most ridiculous one. This story part is laughable. The first law of scriptwriting is do not use random car crashes as a plot vehicle, it cheapera your story.
Wow, “you are still my son, even though I hate what you are” is such a warm, heart-felt statement you want to hear from your father. This one surely has deserved Korn giving his apology to the father for being too harsh towards him, LOL.
Wait, do Thai people give their daughters nicknames like Porn? That would fit a male since the age of thirteen or something, but it might be too bold as a female nickname.
The last two episodes are really funny with everyone walking half-naked to seduce the evil gay.
The original novel was written by a female for female audience, so no wonder the characters are not realistic in this key aspect.
Also, in the first series one lad was doing nonsense, but this time is it a different one. So they are both laughably silly.
But the most controversial event of the series is actually great as it shows how thing in real life happen.
Still like these lads and Yihwa, of course! Worth watching, despite the issues: