It was an enjoyable light and fluffy drama with entertaining side characters. That being said, I don't see why they didn't just give everyone a happy outcome. Lee Doo Seob's love for Yang Eun Ji was so sweet, and she turned him down because she doesn't want to recognize love? What the heck> Why make this the one realistic aspect of the drama? Just give them a cute scene and let them be happy too!
I was really doubtful about this drama because it didn't grab me until episode seven. Then it got interesting and totally veered away from what I expected it to do. Love the side characters! There was character growth, cuteness, humor, and a call to examine oppressive societal norms. If you can stick it out through the first six episodes, it's worth watching.
This drama has held my interest with good characters; the selfish ones are the most entertaining. I know it's too much to hope for, but I hope Do Ran and Dae Ryook don't end up together. There is no chemistry there at all. Much more warmth between Do Ran and bakery hunk, Tae Poong.
Like W, this drama had so much potential, but ended up lacking.
1. If you're going to incorporate a game into the plot, don't portray it as a flat grind. How can Jin Woo be such a bad player? His first enemy killed him so many times, I thought he'd never played a game before. That made his leveling up so unbelievable. A player that bad would take forever to advance. The dungeon was not structured as a dungeon with quests and bosses, it was just a mob pit that Jin Woo did not strategize at all. From a gamer's standpoint, the game itself wasn't dynamic enough. They could have made it more meaningful with quests that actually developed the characters and moved the story.
2. How did Se Joo develop the game with no resources? It would have to be some 4th dimensional power he was tapping into in order to create the whole thing straight out of his imagination. Having some drawings up on his walls and writing computer code isn't enough for such a sophisticated construct. Even though he's a genius, there's just not enough hours in the day for him to create the game by himself or with Marco's help. If they want to go supernatural with it, that's fine, but give some explanation. He alluded to another dimension while explaining his instance dungeon; that logic should have been solidified and employed throughout the story.
3. The bug occurring when Marco stabbed Se Joo only makes sense if he had created the game supernaturally and it was keyed into his emotions. Otherwise, code should not have reacted to a 3rd dimensional occurence between players in the real world. And if that was where the bug started, why would Emma have to kill Jin Woo to delete it? If anything it would have to end with Se Joo. I could rationalize it by accepting that the master being deleted will also delete any bugs. But then it wouldn't make sense for Jin Woo to stab his enemy and allies before being stabbed himself - and what about Marco? I'm fine with Jin Woo being deleted and stuck in the game, as long as the story is held accountable to its own logic. Let's not make stuff up out of thin air without being consistent to anything else that has happened like in W.
4. The pacing was off, so the drama dragged more and more as it went on. The last episode was the most boring of all. I didn't mind the ending itself, but I think the story should have been told in a way for that ending to feel significant instead of anticlimactic. It just felt like a flatline ending to me. The message that trust is the magic that changes the world, not technology was not conveyed in the story, so they had to state it at the end so we could come away with something. All in all, a disappointment.
I don't know if it's because Yo Jung is such an immature brat who hasn't grown at all for ten episodes, but I don't feel any chemistry between the main leads. I find myself rooting against them because I don't want Woo Hyun to be stuck with such a mess of a woman. Sung Hoon comes off as creepy. For a show that had so much potential in the beginning, the writing is going downhill. Episode ten was a montage of flashbacks and filler scenes where I just stare at Yoon Eun Hye's lower lip and wonder if it's always been that big.
I really enjoyed this drama more than most. The characters were complex and well portrayed, the storyline was interesting and the acting was charming and believable. I was dreading the end because people had said it was rushed due to the cut episodes, but I felt that it wrapped up perfectly without any pacing issues. There was satisfactory closure on all the main points and all the side characters had their paths laid out. I didn't feel like anything was neglected or left out. I usually rate enjoyable dramas a 7 unless they are exceptional. This one I gave a 9.
This was a great drama with the exception of the long drawn out lecture in the last episode that made me feel like they were repeatedly hitting me over the head with their message. I really enjoyed the character development and problem solving... and also the really cute bentos.
This drama had a lot of potential, but there was really no tension, no sense of working for anything. It was a lot of reward scenes that didn't feel earned, so I felt bored and unmoved throughout. I love the two leads and was really hoping for something outstanding. They did the best they could with a bad script.
It is because they toned down the bullying part which was glorified in the original source (manga) and the 2001…
I did provide logic for my assumption. I guess we just interpret scenes differently. In the other versions of the story, her actions were understandable given the desperate circumstances students found themselves in for the smallest infractions. It wasn't slapstick violence. I don't think you'll understand without actually watching one of the other versions in its entirety, but then again, we interpret scenes differently and you might think the female lead being dragged behind a car just cartoony exaggeration.
I'm glad you seem to like Shan Cai's character and can enjoy the drama as it is. This is one of my favorite stories, which is why I've watched every version. I really wanted to like it. If anything, I was biased toward liking it. So the disappointment is extra bitter. Thank you for your point of view. I wish I could have adopted it, but it just doesn't work for me.
It is because they toned down the bullying part which was glorified in the original source (manga) and the 2001…
A lot of people look at the stairs when they're walking up them and not at the landing above. Because the scene did not show Ming Si observing the girls, you cannot assume that he saw them at all. Also, if he had seen Li Zhen trip, he would have put his arms up instead of letting the cake hit him full in the face, which illustrates the fact that he did not see the girls before he got hit in the face.
So because he didn't hear them out, and he exerted some force immediately after provocation that did not cause personal injury, Shan Cai is justified in using premeditated extreme violence? I don't know if you've ever seen a person get kicked in the face, but I have. It's very brutal, and much worse than being shoved to the ground or being hit with a food container. Shan Cai escalated the violence to a criminal level that far exceeds what could be considered standing up for herself.
If the producers want to take out the bullying, I'm fine with it. But when one character commits criminal violence and no one is bothered by it, I think the point has been missed.
I think if Shan Cai had been polite instead of aggressive from the start, I would have felt sympathy for her. Instead it seems like she's just looking for a fight. She even got into trouble for attacking the school's guest because she can't approach people like a normal human being.
Does she mature at all in subsequent episodes? Because if her character does not develop at all, this series will be too irritating to watch.
It is because they toned down the bullying part which was glorified in the original source (manga) and the 2001…
I find Shan Cai extremely aggressive. If you look at it from Ming Si's point of view, this girl suddenly shows up speaking rudely, holding up a phone asking "What is this? How do you think it got this way?" instead of introducing herself and telling him that he broke her phone in a polite way. He has no recollection of stepping on the phone, so he has no reason to believe her. He is approached and challenged all the time, and this person he's never seen before is no different to him.
The next contact he has with Shan Cai is when he is hit in the face with a cake. From his perspective, these same two girls who harrassed him before, have just attacked him. Li Zhen apologizes, but why should he trust it? He did not shove her until she touched his face. I'm not saying the shove was justified, but I would get away from someone touching me in that situation myself. Then Shan Cai goes on to yell at him.
No wonder Shan Cai got the joker card after that. F4 views her as someone who is trying to challenge them. It's not bullying, it's giving her the chance to play cards since she has approached them with aggression twice. If she doesn't take it, what are the consequences? Probably nothing. It's not like in all the other versions of the story where this would be akin to a death sentence.
Then while Ming Si is playing basketball, this same psycho girl comes onto the court to film him! Talk about stalker! So I can see why he looked into her background. He insulted her in a private place, and yes he was wrong for hitting her with the food container, but that was an act of passion when he lost his temper. He didn't plan it, he looked more traumatized about it than she did, and it did not cause her physical injury. If she wanted to retaliate with violence, she should have done it in the heat of the moment. But no. She waited until the next day and then carried out a premeditated act of extreme violence against him in front of the whole school. An act of violence that could potentially cause permanent damage to a person. That is more than merely sticking up for herself.
I've watched the Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean and Chinese versions of this story as well as read the manga, and for the first time ever, I'm actually sympathetic toward the male lead instead of the female.
It is because they toned down the bullying part which was glorified in the original source (manga) and the 2001…
I understand what they're doing, but they aren't being consistent about it. I mean, is it really okay for Shan Cai to come to school and kick Ming Si in the face? This event fit into the other incarnations of this story because F4 and their influence over violent mob mentality was extreme. In this version, it would have been more appropriate for her to just throw the card at him. It seems that the producers are saying that bullying is okay if the bully is a smaller female.
It's hard to watch meteor garden again. I'm a fan of meteor garden 2001, and when I watch this ver I keep finding…
I agree. I just watched one episode and don't know if I can go on. De-clawing the F4 takes away any tension, and makes the female look like a bully. I guess there is room for character development, but this feels like drinking flat soda.
Thanks for clearing that up. It's hard to tell when just reading text and not hearing a person speak. I'm sorry I misunderstood your use of endearments.
I want to know why everyone lied too, but I'm afraid it's going to be really predictable. Sung Yun is probably mentally unstable and the whole family decided to tiptoe around him for the sake of peace in the household. However, I'm hoping for some kind of twist. It would be great if the writers could throw us a curve ball.
The reason why the drama has lost momentum for me is the lack of tension. Already before episode 10, Mi Soo has realized her feelings and the two leads have confessed. Now they are trying to adjust their personal lives with their professional relationship and it feels a little tedious to me; like the honeymoon is over.
When Sung Yun came into the picture, I anticipated Mi Soo bonding with him, getting closer by trying to revive their memories. I wanted her to have conflicting feelings, I wanted to be in the position where I wouldn't know which brother was telling the truth, and which one to root for. Instead, nothing was really developed between Mi Soo and Sung Yun. He was kind of cast aside and no tension was created. Mi Soo never wavered in her feelings. The audience was always led to be more sympathetic toward Young Joon.
There is no real tension, suspense or mystery to the past. The events were pretty much spelled out for us. Now with six episodes left, I'm wondering if Sung Yun will go psycho or not, but I'm not emotionally attached either way. How are they going to fill six episodes when the leads have already declared their feelings, and the past has been fully revealed?
These are my reasons and you may not agree, but that doesn't make my points any less valid. I don't think anyone has to provide proof for the way they feel about a drama in order for their opinions to be respected.
I also feel a person loses credibility when they passive-aggressively call people "hun", "dears" and "sweetheart".
That being said, I will watch this drama to the end because I really liked the beginning and I'm a big fan of Park Min Young and Park Seo Joon.
We're not sitting around hoping the drama goes bad, quite the opposite. When you have two great leads and the drama starts strong but loses momentum, given the premise, you wonder if they can pull it off. You hope that they can. It's great that you feel the drama is on track, Cncll is asking if anyone else feels that it's getting boring, so their post was not aimed at you. Yes, Cncll, I'm feeling the drag, but I'm hoping it picks up again, just as you are.
Zombie movies aren't really my thing, but I really enjoyed Train to Busan. It was tense and emotional, and although the story wasn't too deep, the characters were earnest and endearing. When the girl started singing Aloha Oe, I teared up. It's a song that we learn as children in Hawaii, and was heartwrenchingly relevant to the movie.
The writing was just bad and so was much of the acting, especially on the part of lead, Park Han Byul. However, after suspending all logic and reasoning, and accepting that the plot is ridiculous and contrived, I found this drama to be highly entertaining. It ended well,and that counts for a lot, especially after sitting through so many episodes.
1. If you're going to incorporate a game into the plot, don't portray it as a flat grind. How can Jin Woo be such a bad player? His first enemy killed him so many times, I thought he'd never played a game before. That made his leveling up so unbelievable. A player that bad would take forever to advance. The dungeon was not structured as a dungeon with quests and bosses, it was just a mob pit that Jin Woo did not strategize at all. From a gamer's standpoint, the game itself wasn't dynamic enough. They could have made it more meaningful with quests that actually developed the characters and moved the story.
2. How did Se Joo develop the game with no resources? It would have to be some 4th dimensional power he was tapping into in order to create the whole thing straight out of his imagination. Having some drawings up on his walls and writing computer code isn't enough for such a sophisticated construct. Even though he's a genius, there's just not enough hours in the day for him to create the game by himself or with Marco's help. If they want to go supernatural with it, that's fine, but give some explanation. He alluded to another dimension while explaining his instance dungeon; that logic should have been solidified and employed throughout the story.
3. The bug occurring when Marco stabbed Se Joo only makes sense if he had created the game supernaturally and it was keyed into his emotions. Otherwise, code should not have reacted to a 3rd dimensional occurence between players in the real world. And if that was where the bug started, why would Emma have to kill Jin Woo to delete it? If anything it would have to end with Se Joo. I could rationalize it by accepting that the master being deleted will also delete any bugs. But then it wouldn't make sense for Jin Woo to stab his enemy and allies before being stabbed himself - and what about Marco? I'm fine with Jin Woo being deleted and stuck in the game, as long as the story is held accountable to its own logic. Let's not make stuff up out of thin air without being consistent to anything else that has happened like in W.
4. The pacing was off, so the drama dragged more and more as it went on. The last episode was the most boring of all. I didn't mind the ending itself, but I think the story should have been told in a way for that ending to feel significant instead of anticlimactic. It just felt like a flatline ending to me. The message that trust is the magic that changes the world, not technology was not conveyed in the story, so they had to state it at the end so we could come away with something. All in all, a disappointment.
I'm glad you seem to like Shan Cai's character and can enjoy the drama as it is. This is one of my favorite stories, which is why I've watched every version. I really wanted to like it. If anything, I was biased toward liking it. So the disappointment is extra bitter. Thank you for your point of view. I wish I could have adopted it, but it just doesn't work for me.
So because he didn't hear them out, and he exerted some force immediately after provocation that did not cause personal injury, Shan Cai is justified in using premeditated extreme violence? I don't know if you've ever seen a person get kicked in the face, but I have. It's very brutal, and much worse than being shoved to the ground or being hit with a food container. Shan Cai escalated the violence to a criminal level that far exceeds what could be considered standing up for herself.
If the producers want to take out the bullying, I'm fine with it. But when one character commits criminal violence and no one is bothered by it, I think the point has been missed.
I think if Shan Cai had been polite instead of aggressive from the start, I would have felt sympathy for her. Instead it seems like she's just looking for a fight. She even got into trouble for attacking the school's guest because she can't approach people like a normal human being.
Does she mature at all in subsequent episodes? Because if her character does not develop at all, this series will be too irritating to watch.
The next contact he has with Shan Cai is when he is hit in the face with a cake. From his perspective, these same two girls who harrassed him before, have just attacked him. Li Zhen apologizes, but why should he trust it? He did not shove her until she touched his face. I'm not saying the shove was justified, but I would get away from someone touching me in that situation myself. Then Shan Cai goes on to yell at him.
No wonder Shan Cai got the joker card after that. F4 views her as someone who is trying to challenge them. It's not bullying, it's giving her the chance to play cards since she has approached them with aggression twice. If she doesn't take it, what are the consequences? Probably nothing. It's not like in all the other versions of the story where this would be akin to a death sentence.
Then while Ming Si is playing basketball, this same psycho girl comes onto the court to film him! Talk about stalker! So I can see why he looked into her background. He insulted her in a private place, and yes he was wrong for hitting her with the food container, but that was an act of passion when he lost his temper. He didn't plan it, he looked more traumatized about it than she did, and it did not cause her physical injury. If she wanted to retaliate with violence, she should have done it in the heat of the moment. But no. She waited until the next day and then carried out a premeditated act of extreme violence against him in front of the whole school. An act of violence that could potentially cause permanent damage to a person. That is more than merely sticking up for herself.
I've watched the Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean and Chinese versions of this story as well as read the manga, and for the first time ever, I'm actually sympathetic toward the male lead instead of the female.
I want to know why everyone lied too, but I'm afraid it's going to be really predictable. Sung Yun is probably mentally unstable and the whole family decided to tiptoe around him for the sake of peace in the household. However, I'm hoping for some kind of twist. It would be great if the writers could throw us a curve ball.
When Sung Yun came into the picture, I anticipated Mi Soo bonding with him, getting closer by trying to revive their memories. I wanted her to have conflicting feelings, I wanted to be in the position where I wouldn't know which brother was telling the truth, and which one to root for. Instead, nothing was really developed between Mi Soo and Sung Yun. He was kind of cast aside and no tension was created. Mi Soo never wavered in her feelings. The audience was always led to be more sympathetic toward Young Joon.
There is no real tension, suspense or mystery to the past. The events were pretty much spelled out for us. Now with six episodes left, I'm wondering if Sung Yun will go psycho or not, but I'm not emotionally attached either way. How are they going to fill six episodes when the leads have already declared their feelings, and the past has been fully revealed?
These are my reasons and you may not agree, but that doesn't make my points any less valid. I don't think anyone has to provide proof for the way they feel about a drama in order for their opinions to be respected.
I also feel a person loses credibility when they passive-aggressively call people "hun", "dears" and "sweetheart".
That being said, I will watch this drama to the end because I really liked the beginning and I'm a big fan of Park Min Young and Park Seo Joon.