coz she was a spoiled brat (this is how her char at that age is described in the novel, and in drama SZ is exactly…
it's not your cup of tea, which is nothing wrong
HL novel was written when the author herself was a teenager. It's a pure romance, with a simple line, there is no hidden depth, no complicated plot. However, the novel is very popular-> big IP. The risk with adaptations of big IPs is to not meet the huge fan base's expectations. This is what makes the difference between a big hit and a flop. But HL is a lil gem of its genre, met all expectations and even more:it was well written, well directed, cinematography, acting was very good, OSts, very compact plot focused on main chars, details, everything was what it should be To reduce HL to beautiful actors with great chemistry isnt fair
The book doesnt appear in the novel, so no link between HL novel and Asimov's work. The prod team wasnt bold enough to keep the original age gap of 7 years, reduced it to 5(not their fault, they had to due to chinese censorship). So, saying the Asimov's novel is a ref. is too much
*The age of consent is still 14 in China. If you check, there are no restrictions(or there are some restrictions till 16, some sources talked about that) by authorities and marriage isnt a must/condition/restriction. (“If the law sets the age of consent at 14, it tacitly grants sexual autonomy to minors over 14 and implies that they can freely decide to engage in sexual activity-Zhu Guangxing, - assistant professor of criminal law at China University of Political Science and Law- see Yantai scandal) If Andrew had to hide Noÿs and goes against system till the end, step by step, DJX hadnt to hide his relation even if he would had feelings for SZ when she was 17, which wasnt the case. There is no law in China which prohibits dating a girl of 17.
About costume dramas: almost all heroines are about 15 years old in the beginning of the dramas. China had Hairpin Ceremony, girls in their 15 who received proposals, have this ceremony which marks the fact girls become adults and they are eligible to marry. Even China kept the age of consent of 14, ppl can marry if they are 20 (women) and 22 (men) nowadays. These are ages when they can support a family (and the parents, too, if there's the case). They can marry at younger ages with parental approvement In LLTG, even CSS is 15 and received proposals from men in their early 20, she was to young to know what love and marriage are (see CSS and LY talking about marriage scene). She fell for LBY, but their relation was platonic till she became an adult. All recent dramas are made this way, the consummation is pushed several years later, till heroine becomes an adult or close to that age PPL dont comment coz these are facts, happened long time ago, and we all have a grand grand mother who married at her 16 no matter our culture is. Were times when if women didnt marry after 20, they were the subject of gossips
in HL drama, when SZ met first DJX (14 yo), she was impressed by his handsomeness and kindness, she wanted to have a brother like him. At that age there was no love interests from none of the parts At 17 she admitted she has feeling for him, but she thinks he would never love her coz of the age gap, she is too young for him, he can meet a girl in uni, same age, same hobbies, same aspirations. She knows she has no hope, that's why she keeps her first love secret; he had no idea about her feelings and no romantic interest for her, he also tells her if he will have a gf, there will be another person, besides him, who will treat her nicely At 19, they met again and started to date (see drunk SZ scene: she was 19 and she never got a single sign from him that he could ever see her in a romantic way and she had no hope he will see her as a grown up woman)
Why is her family and DJX worried about her relation with that older guy? Mostly coz chinese law (age of consent in china) creates an opportunity for offenders to prey upon teens. They dont know that guy, what his intentions are, anything. SZ invented him, and avoided to give details coz she lied. You can see their desperation when she left home to go see her older "bf" Why shouldnt I believe DJX when he say he fell for her in that snowing night? That was the moment he realized he has romantic feelings for her. I still dont get it why ppl want him having romantic feelings when she was 17, suspect him when both chars said it clear in drama there was nothing from his side when she was 17. I didnt see his struggle hiding his feelings, not him accepted them and dated her, kept her hand only till she became an adult. Why such a fuss about this age 17, coz it is below 20 as 19 is (when they have a relation), but both over 14/16. In this light, Asimov book is nothing
About the novel, to answer to your last question: it was always very popular. Big IP, loved by millions of ppl. DJX wasnt suspicious and it was considered a green flag, even the age gap is bigger. Things always clear about the novel, coz author herself said it's the story of her first, unrequited love. The both side love story (happened after she's 19) is pure fiction. Author had never any intention to shade her own work. LoL. Always risky to make an adaptation of a big IP, coz if prod team and actors dont meet novel's fans expectation, it will flop badly. And we saw lots of such dramas. There were voices who said actors dont fit chars, but got silent after drama was aired. HL met all novel's and manga's fans expectations in matter of fidelity (very close to novel/manga), more, acting, directing, everything was good. The voices against drama found suspicious the lightning and some angles in the first eps, the way SZ calls him gege (but she uses gege for all her brother's dorm mates), the way CZY acted DJX when they first met when ZLS acted SZ in her 17-22. Nothing serious, ignoring deliberately text, chars development, everything. I find their takes as being unserious. Usually, ppl have an interest when they shade something without a factual basis. More, if you think censors are silly (lets say easy to trick) and a drama can pass a censorship using tricks, you are wrong. Audiovisual laws, censorship, more drastic than other rl laws.
* It's still a mystery for me why China keeps this law about the age of consent. There was a proposal to raise the age but nothing happened . Meanwhile there is a drastic audiovisual censorship . Different laws, different culture, I guess we can take it or leave it
ok finally watched this after months of constant reminding from my bestie.Pros:Absolute Fire Chemistry between…
it was an A drama which finished its running as a S drama. That means their budget was low but finished its running with high incomes After the former director left saying he cant involve in this project coz it will be a big failure (and he took with him 3/4 of the former prod team and part of the crew), they had costumes for 2 days, no director, no screen writer, no actors for sec roles. ZLS brought brands she represented, her actors friends, used her own garderobe and assured garderobe for the other actors. She loved SZ char so much and wanted to make this drama. HL wouldnt exist without her support HL is the first joint private modern love drama ever bought by Netflix
not really The story started when she was 13-14 in the novel, finished after they married. There are chapters about their family, they have a child, a girl, who is smart and funny, a trouble maker. It really is a simple love story. There is no parallel between HL (novel or drama) and Asimov's novel told you already several times, this isnt a forbidden love story, happened to be an unrequited one in the beginning HL was written when the author was a teenager, it's about her first and unrequited love. She just gave HL chars a happing ending
she filmed 1 drama last year and one this year. She took a break of 8 months after her grandfather died. There…
when will be the right time, we will know. Remember what happened before The Story of Pearl Girl turned on camera? There were tones of rumors, yxh and haters used to mock her and her studio based on rumors. It was a lesson. Now, nobody knows anything, ppl dont talk.
I'd love to see her in a Republican era, military (where she's a nurse) or retro drama (starts in the 70's). Basically…
the role in TSOPG was really challenging. Only thinking she had to dive and under water swim (+training) in the middle of winter, in very cold water is simply impressive
She's putting in so much work wow. 3 dramas last year. 20+ dramas in 6 years plus 2 movies is insane for someone…
she filmed 1 drama last year and one this year. She took a break of 8 months after her grandfather died. There are indeed many chinese actresses who film more than 4 dramas/year, but ZLS never did more than 3/year and not lately. She said this year will be really full
I just finished watching this and loved it completely. I have one comment to make. Although I think the ML and…
weird...in which way? I saw BTS, they practiced a lot, Lusi sent CZY to watch some kdrama kisses scenes. He was pretty shy, after kissing he hid his head in her shoulder. Very, very cute (there is a special ep with BTS, you may take a look. They were very sweet off camera, too)
Why do I get the impression that the "name change" in this drama is merely a promotional tactic? It seems designed…
I really dont understand why is such a big fuss coz they changed the english title. They already changed it twice: "Pearl Curtain and Jade Curtain"->"The Legend of Jewelry"-> "The Story of Pearl Girl" There is no certitude that this one will be the final one Also, the chinese title was never changed
Did TLB affected WL popularity? Coz he was second billing in TLB and drama was female centric. More, if you watched…
yeah, shady posts always get me confused....and the way you feel attacked by my comments confusing me even more. You should simply clarify the situation saying you posted coz "shits happens and as a gege fan you needed to make a mess spreading it" and I would kept my clear mind status. LOL
If you are not scared, should my confused mind understand that their reunion in a female centric drama will "affect his popularity" was your opinion, an observation, a fact? Somehow, even I read your post several times, i come to the same thing: you think they changed the english name for fl benefit and to shade LYN popularity, or whatever, it was like a hit under the belt for LYN (coz they did it after filming was done).
The chinese name is still the same, the former one. The english name changed already twice. The former one was like the chinese one, Pearl curtain, Jade Curtain (its meaning is about DW's development from a pearl diving girl/slave to a wealthy woman/jade). Nobody knows if it will be the same when the drama will be aired. And yeah, this title is worse than the former one, which shows FL char development. The new one doesnt imply any growth, just the fact is a story of a slave). The previous title (The legend of Jewelry) was the worst, it didnt say anything at all
If he had a single drama before as ML, this one is a + no matter the english title. Couldnt you say from the beginning: "I want a neutral title for this drama, to hide the fact it is a female centric drama"
Girl, with all my confusion about you and your posts, the fact is the drama data always go to the first billing. For AJTL, drama's data went to LSS, for The prisoner of Beauty, drama's data will go to SZ, for TSOPG, drama's data goes to ZLS, no matter if it's about a female centric drama or not, doesnt matter if second billing is the ML or not, no matter the title of drama is. That's why I talked about billings before. And I really hope they will respect the contracts for TSOPG cast ( what they signed for) and they wont change anything (change the billings) in the end. If you are a fan, instead of posting shady comments, support drama, coz if it will be a huge hit, second billing, third billing will also explode, so chances for LYN to be the first billing in future big projects increase (and you have countless ex.)
Im 5 episodes in still and trying to decide if i should continue. Why does she act like a 5 year old. Im trying…
coz she was a spoiled brat (this is how her char at that age is described in the novel, and in drama SZ is exactly the same) yeah, she changes during the char development (acting, voice, clothing etc). She'll be mature enough to heal the wounds of his youth
ok finally watched this after months of constant reminding from my bestie.Pros:Absolute Fire Chemistry between…
it is a pure romance line, loyal to its genre, not diluted with other subplots. Second leads have lil screen time and all of it related to leads' love story The novel is exactly the same
Did TLB affected WL popularity? Coz he was second billing in TLB and drama was female centric. More, if you watched…
I have to admit that your post is confusing. So, yeah, I still ask myself why you posted :) I didnt get why you are scared his popularity will be affected coz TSOPG is a female centric drama (and it was this way from the beginning, when he accepted the role, of course he knew it...or you think they cheated him and he found out when they changed the english title LOL). The chinese name of the drama is still the same, the english one was changed.
Told you almost all his previous dramas (except the last one, I guess) were female centric ones and he was second or third billing. If his acting will be good, if drama will have a compact plot and a good post production, there shouldnt be worries about his popularity
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HL novel was written when the author herself was a teenager. It's a pure romance, with a simple line, there is no hidden depth, no complicated plot.
However, the novel is very popular-> big IP. The risk with adaptations of big IPs is to not meet the huge fan base's expectations. This is what makes the difference between a big hit and a flop. But HL is a lil gem of its genre, met all expectations and even more:it was well written, well directed, cinematography, acting was very good, OSts, very compact plot focused on main chars, details, everything was what it should be
To reduce HL to beautiful actors with great chemistry isnt fair
The prod team wasnt bold enough to keep the original age gap of 7 years, reduced it to 5(not their fault, they had to due to chinese censorship). So, saying the Asimov's novel is a ref. is too much
*The age of consent is still 14 in China. If you check, there are no restrictions(or there are some restrictions till 16, some sources talked about that) by authorities and marriage isnt a must/condition/restriction. (“If the law sets the age of consent at 14, it tacitly grants sexual autonomy to minors over 14 and implies that they can freely decide to engage in sexual activity-Zhu Guangxing, - assistant professor of criminal law at China University of Political Science and Law- see Yantai scandal)
If Andrew had to hide Noÿs and goes against system till the end, step by step, DJX hadnt to hide his relation even if he would had feelings for SZ when she was 17, which wasnt the case. There is no law in China which prohibits dating a girl of 17.
About costume dramas: almost all heroines are about 15 years old in the beginning of the dramas. China had Hairpin Ceremony, girls in their 15 who received proposals, have this ceremony which marks the fact girls become adults and they are eligible to marry.
Even China kept the age of consent of 14, ppl can marry if they are 20 (women) and 22 (men) nowadays. These are ages when they can support a family (and the parents, too, if there's the case). They can marry at younger ages with parental approvement
In LLTG, even CSS is 15 and received proposals from men in their early 20, she was to young to know what love and marriage are (see CSS and LY talking about marriage scene). She fell for LBY, but their relation was platonic till she became an adult. All recent dramas are made this way, the consummation is pushed several years later, till heroine becomes an adult or close to that age
PPL dont comment coz these are facts, happened long time ago, and we all have a grand grand mother who married at her 16 no matter our culture is. Were times when if women didnt marry after 20, they were the subject of gossips
in HL drama, when SZ met first DJX (14 yo), she was impressed by his handsomeness and kindness, she wanted to have a brother like him. At that age there was no love interests from none of the parts
At 17 she admitted she has feeling for him, but she thinks he would never love her coz of the age gap, she is too young for him, he can meet a girl in uni, same age, same hobbies, same aspirations. She knows she has no hope, that's why she keeps her first love secret; he had no idea about her feelings and no romantic interest for her, he also tells her if he will have a gf, there will be another person, besides him, who will treat her nicely
At 19, they met again and started to date (see drunk SZ scene: she was 19 and she never got a single sign from him that he could ever see her in a romantic way and she had no hope he will see her as a grown up woman)
Why is her family and DJX worried about her relation with that older guy? Mostly coz chinese law (age of consent in china) creates an opportunity for offenders to prey upon teens. They dont know that guy, what his intentions are, anything. SZ invented him, and avoided to give details coz she lied. You can see their desperation when she left home to go see her older "bf"
Why shouldnt I believe DJX when he say he fell for her in that snowing night? That was the moment he realized he has romantic feelings for her.
I still dont get it why ppl want him having romantic feelings when she was 17, suspect him when both chars said it clear in drama there was nothing from his side when she was 17. I didnt see his struggle hiding his feelings, not him accepted them and dated her, kept her hand only till she became an adult. Why such a fuss about this age 17, coz it is below 20 as 19 is (when they have a relation), but both over 14/16. In this light, Asimov book is nothing
About the novel, to answer to your last question: it was always very popular. Big IP, loved by millions of ppl. DJX wasnt suspicious and it was considered a green flag, even the age gap is bigger. Things always clear about the novel, coz author herself said it's the story of her first, unrequited love. The both side love story (happened after she's 19) is pure fiction. Author had never any intention to shade her own work. LoL.
Always risky to make an adaptation of a big IP, coz if prod team and actors dont meet novel's fans expectation, it will flop badly. And we saw lots of such dramas. There were voices who said actors dont fit chars, but got silent after drama was aired. HL met all novel's and manga's fans expectations in matter of fidelity (very close to novel/manga), more, acting, directing, everything was good.
The voices against drama found suspicious the lightning and some angles in the first eps, the way SZ calls him gege (but she uses gege for all her brother's dorm mates), the way CZY acted DJX when they first met when ZLS acted SZ in her 17-22. Nothing serious, ignoring deliberately text, chars development, everything. I find their takes as being unserious. Usually, ppl have an interest when they shade something without a factual basis.
More, if you think censors are silly (lets say easy to trick) and a drama can pass a censorship using tricks, you are wrong. Audiovisual laws, censorship, more drastic than other rl laws.
* It's still a mystery for me why China keeps this law about the age of consent. There was a proposal to raise the age but nothing happened . Meanwhile there is a drastic audiovisual censorship . Different laws, different culture, I guess we can take it or leave it
After the former director left saying he cant involve in this project coz it will be a big failure (and he took with him 3/4 of the former prod team and part of the crew), they had costumes for 2 days, no director, no screen writer, no actors for sec roles.
ZLS brought brands she represented, her actors friends, used her own garderobe and assured garderobe for the other actors. She loved SZ char so much and wanted to make this drama. HL wouldnt exist without her support
HL is the first joint private modern love drama ever bought by Netflix
The story started when she was 13-14 in the novel, finished after they married. There are chapters about their family, they have a child, a girl, who is smart and funny, a trouble maker.
It really is a simple love story. There is no parallel between HL (novel or drama) and Asimov's novel
told you already several times, this isnt a forbidden love story, happened to be an unrequited one in the beginning
HL was written when the author was a teenager, it's about her first and unrequited love. She just gave HL chars a happing ending
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There are indeed many chinese actresses who film more than 4 dramas/year, but ZLS never did more than 3/year and not lately.
She said this year will be really full
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The way you embarrassing yourself is kinda...funny
Meh... it became boring
There is no certitude that this one will be the final one
Also, the chinese title was never changed
If you are not scared, should my confused mind understand that their reunion in a female centric drama will "affect his popularity" was your opinion, an observation, a fact?
Somehow, even I read your post several times, i come to the same thing: you think they changed the english name for fl benefit and to shade LYN popularity, or whatever, it was like a hit under the belt for LYN (coz they did it after filming was done).
The chinese name is still the same, the former one. The english name changed already twice. The former one was like the chinese one, Pearl curtain, Jade Curtain (its meaning is about DW's development from a pearl diving girl/slave to a wealthy woman/jade). Nobody knows if it will be the same when the drama will be aired. And yeah, this title is worse than the former one, which shows FL char development. The new one doesnt imply any growth, just the fact is a story of a slave). The previous title (The legend of Jewelry) was the worst, it didnt say anything at all
If he had a single drama before as ML, this one is a + no matter the english title.
Couldnt you say from the beginning: "I want a neutral title for this drama, to hide the fact it is a female centric drama"
Girl, with all my confusion about you and your posts, the fact is the drama data always go to the first billing. For AJTL, drama's data went to LSS, for The prisoner of Beauty, drama's data will go to SZ, for TSOPG, drama's data goes to ZLS, no matter if it's about a female centric drama or not, doesnt matter if second billing is the ML or not, no matter the title of drama is. That's why I talked about billings before. And I really hope they will respect the contracts for TSOPG cast ( what they signed for) and they wont change anything (change the billings) in the end.
If you are a fan, instead of posting shady comments, support drama, coz if it will be a huge hit, second billing, third billing will also explode, so chances for LYN to be the first billing in future big projects increase (and you have countless ex.)
yeah, she changes during the char development (acting, voice, clothing etc). She'll be mature enough to heal the wounds of his youth
The novel is exactly the same
I didnt get why you are scared his popularity will be affected coz TSOPG is a female centric drama (and it was this way from the beginning, when he accepted the role, of course he knew it...or you think they cheated him and he found out when they changed the english title LOL). The chinese name of the drama is still the same, the english one was changed.
Told you almost all his previous dramas (except the last one, I guess) were female centric ones and he was second or third billing.
If his acting will be good, if drama will have a compact plot and a good post production, there shouldnt be worries about his popularity