MinJi23

I wrote something similar further down - the world is full of awful news, we are bombarded with it literally EVERYwhere...and if, for once, like here, there is a tiny nice and heartwarming story, some people feel the urgent need to put a huge pile of verbal diarrhea on it - just so they feel important and just to sully and ruin everyone's very short good mood

is this some kind of alien language only you can understand? Things like these hurt other people's brains - that is for those who actually HAVE brains Oo

Sorry if I came across harsh now as well...I just wanted to say let's enjoy the good news, it's few enough of them 🙂

I can read properly, thank you very much ;) No need to get offensive and angry, I just wanted to point out that your sentence, written like that is prone to be missunderstood. It doesn't matter if you wrote 'this' or 'that'.

Apart from that I do wonder why you would bring someone else and such a negative issue into an article about Ji Chang-wook who obviously just did something nice. It was a nice article with something enjoyable to read in times when the news are full of shit mostly.

Secondly, if you find this platform here so disgusting because they don't show news in timeframes of your liking (of course you did not think about legal issues even such platforms face if they print accusive news as facts, before they are that - facts legally) I wonder why you spend your time here, sullying nice articles of other actors... But anyways, stay angry and offensive, it's such a 'lovely' platform here, only with 'friendly' people, all fans of K-dramas with touchung and nice characters, just like themselves, right? ... right.

who are you talking about? You do realise that with the way you put your first sentence together it's quite easy to missunderstand in a way that you want to say Ji Chang-wook is a pedo? Just wondering if you wanted to express that?

fully agree... I wrote something quite very similar further down =)

While it is understandable that Yi-do would want a detailed explanation of the 'wavelength'-thing, I actually believe JM didn't give details because he didn't want to hurt Yi-do.

If I should take a guess I'd think he didn't like it much (for his personal prefernces and taste for a relationship) when e.g. Yi-do said she was a party girl before she started studying, and he also didn't like it when she said she always comes first and only then her family, when at the same time she hinted that she had a very 'posh' and comparably cocooned upbringing with parents who put her to special (expensive) schools and gave her a lot etc.
I think JM has a rather conservative setting on prioritising family over other things.

That was probably also the reason he was deeply touched twice by Ji-yeon, first when she said she fought her way up to working in the music busniness with small side jobs, and later now, when she said she had a very tough and violent childhood and that she still always prioritised family although in her case it was a bad family.
So I think JM compared the two girls and maybe thought that Yi-do is not even aware that she had it good and he might feel she sounds ungrateful (and that happenes fast in Korea concerning parents and family!), while Ji-yeon had it so hard and still tried her best to prioritise her shitty family.
But it's just my guessing of course.

that editing bit is another good point you mention that must be considered, I agree

But JM didn't 'have all the facts' either...you still have to remember, these unexperienced people were put there in a laser-focus situation only for a single week...I wouldn't say I'd put resonsibility on Yi-do, I just say it's not only JM to blame for how this situation went because they are all inexperienced, it's only a week in total emotional turmoil for all of them, so yes, he handled it badly, but he was overwhelmed, and she reacted not knowing her worth and how to set boundaries yet - it's just logical it happened like that for me. You have to remember they all didn't have much time to think every situation and emotinal wave through, it was just a weekm, and a new and different daily programme every single day

well, I can't say any more than I already did. Yes, it is immatue and disrespectful what he did, you are right! But again, these guys are NOVICES to dating and all the emtions that come with it so yes, they ARE immature of course.
And that goes for Yi-do too, she just hasn't learned that she does not have to wait and beg for a man to like her if he suddenly treats her disrespectful, she just remains in that situation instead of deciding herself that she is not to be treated like that and step back - I would do that - when I was 20 I didn't do it either and it caused me loads of pain and tears. It's just something you have to learn and understand - your own worth and your boundaries you set of how someone has to treat you.

And if you feel it's totally off, and even if you don't get an explanation? You step back because this other person certainly is no one you would want to force into a relationship with you because it will be a disaster anyways. - But that's just life experience of someone who is 46, and after having some 'beautifully painful' disastrous relationships, I've been happily married now for 19 years. So, you can believe what I say, or you don't, it doesn't really matter ;)

read the end of my inituial posting again - I agree with you, JM handled it badly!

But as I said, in a perfect world everyone, no matter man or woman, would be calm and clear in every emotional situation and clearly and truthfully, yet considerately, speak their minds - but most of the time it simply isn't like that in the real world - let alone with dating/relationship-novices like here.

I actually find it very typical that (eg) JM is simply overwhelmed, can't bring himself to tell Yi-do straight off, so he tries to give HUGE hints, gives EVERY body-language signal possible to tell her off, but she doesn't stop asking to hear a different answer until he starts saying what he presumes she wants to hear, just to somehow get out of that situation.

Is that a good thing? No, it actually makes things worse, but it happens ever so often if in such situation you do not take the hurtful hint and retreat, because you want to hear something else. Again, I don't say this is great behaviour, but this is how people often react if you corner them like that.

yes, that's a rookie mistake, confessing 'everlasting love' to someone before you get to know them -but - that is typical for people who do not have emotionally experieced these things and learned that lesson.

Actually, that is what the whole K-drama/K-Pop /boyband etc. industry is living off, no? Many emotionally inexperienced people who SEE their visually ideal type and project any positive thing they' WISH for on them, ignoring that this person they fancy and idealise is in fact a stranger and they don't know anything about them or how they are in real life ;)

Nah don't think so at all. JM didn't even have a chance to talk to Yi-do for the first days and still he was only fixated on her, or the idea he had about her, he did not 'pocket' her in any way then because he couldn't even speak to her. And he was absolutely not interested in any other girld for these first days, because he was fixated on Yi-do all the time.

Also, Ji-yeon did never show or confess her feelings towards him? Not even now in the last episode at the last date? She still thought he only sees her as a friend, and seemed genuinely surprised and then, only then, happy, when he said otherwise. So nah, can't agree with you at all.

yes you did reply to my posting further down, and I agree with you!

Aw, I think it's life experience counting here on how you judge JM. I know many girls here are angry and super frustrated that it looked like he 'suddenly' stopped having interest in Yi-do.
I saw it differently from the start. I thought he liked her visuals the most and felt bodily attracted to her. And because of that he projected all his ideas into her, not looking at any of the other girls there.

I thought after like the first two of their dates (and I wrote it somewhere further down!) they do not fit because they can't really communicate. I also thought Yi-do only wants to be flattered and never had an initial interest in JM - she even literally said so because she was only suprised and shocked when he finally confessed his interest at that first date, and never once said she actually liked him. She just steadily checked if he compliments and flatters her.

I always felt JM had such good, relaxed, open and warm talks with Yi-yeon... he might have felt like it was only friendship but that was because he had his projections so fixed on his idea of Yi-do, until he found out these ideas didn't match reality with her. Also her compliment-fishing and then even reproachful counting up of she wearing her favourite earrings, she wearing her prettiest shoes, she checking her make-up...but all in vain? I didn't like that at all, I just don't like people who steadily need compliments and who start getting reproachful if the compliments don't come.

And different to all the hosts of the show, especially In-guk (who I love ) who thought it didn't mean a real thing when JM told Ji-yeon he would want a potential daughter to be like her? I mean common, if I as a woman tell a man if I had a son I would want him to be like you? That's pretty much the most romantic thing I could say even implying I could at that moment imagine to actually have a child with this particular person.
So I don't agree with the hosts, as I felt like JM and Yi-do never felt like a couple at all to me. That all said of course JM handled the tense situation poorly with Yi-do, no question about that. But then, he never had experience with such situation and he acted like many, men and women, do if they are overwhelmed and pressured in such personal emotional situations for the very first time. And Yi-do didn't stop pressuring him on and on, not taking the hint he wanted out of the situation so badly.

And many women have been there in the past, but you have to learn one thing: if a guy avoids you like that and doesn't want to answer you? The answer is there already without him speaking it out aloud - it's not you, it's someone else. You never make it better if you keep clinging and asking and pressuring until under pressure a man will eventually start lying to you only to somehow get out of the uncomfortable situation because you didn't take the 100 hints before that's it not you and it's over. Yes, of course, it's painful, and sometimes it's unfair because you simply don't get the explanation you'd deserve, and in a perfect world any man or woman would openly and honestly say what's what, but you hardly ever get that.

As I said, I'm not even a fan of hers especially, and yes there are actors and actresses miles better than her, no question. But yeah, I thought in 'Snowdrop' she was alright...I especially thought so because in this particular drama there were several actors and actresses worse than her where I thought they totally over-acted and sometimes the roles annoyed me and I ff-ed some scenes. But then again, it's all a matter of personal taste I guess.
I just don't get why Jisoo distinctly gets trashed for her acting so much. I'd just have other names on my personal worst actors list ;)

I am not a fan of Blackpink or Jisoo, in fact, I didn't even know Blackpink or her when I first saw her acting in 'Snowdrop'.
I didn't have any positive or negative expectations towards her as I just thought she is another actress I don't know yet. And honestly, I did not think her acting was bad. There are other actresses in dramas where I really thought oh, her acting is really stale, emotionless, always the same, etc. but that didn't happen when I saw her on the screen first time.
After meanwhile knowing that she obviously is a global megastar, I think she just draws lots of criticism and also jealousy to be honest - but that's jut my humble opinion of course.
That her role in this movie is just a 5 minute stint is still steel cold calculation of the movie production as they of course want to use her megastar status to up the box office numbers.

I am not 100% sure about Jeong-mok's sincerity and sometimes he seems rather calculating to me. But he might be truly interested in Yi-do after all....That said, I have to say Yi-do never once replied something clear to him either. No matter how clear he told her he likes her, that it is only her for him etc. all she showed was surprise and that's all she said too... All I heard from her is she was so surprised, she was grateful he was so open and she should really get to know him better. Never once did she say she likes him too, not even remotely .

To me it felt more like she is really flattered and she wanted that flattering because she asked pretty much every guy at every possible situation if they voted for her/liked her.
Also I still think it bothers her a lot that her initial interest in Seung-li was refused by him. I'm just not sure she is really interested in Jeong-mok at all.

very good sum up of this mess... I didn't get past episode two though, it was just too dumb Oo

he is certainly one of the most versatile actors in Korea... Only after a while I realised once and again while watching a new drama 'who is that guy? I know him from somewhere?'... and only then understanding he is playing every role so differently I sometimes just don't even immediatley recognise it's him - again =D