NausitoePolinoe

So:
It's been a while since I watched a Korean drama.
I started watching them quite early (2010) and then somehow stopped abrubtly some years ago because I already watched too much and everybody was suddenly talking about it.
But it's nice sometime to go back to where you fetl good.
I liked the pace of this drama, the love story went at the right pace and was completed only at the end.
I was worried about making the ex the culprit because it didn't felt like she was capable of that, but since it was sort of an accident it didn't feel forced.
I liked that they prioritized the closure of FL family story at the end and that her friend can finally live his life on his own.
I will not say that the murder and the cover up was done perfectly but for those that talks about it, think about the initial situation.
The investigators were 100% sure that ML was the murder. The camera showed no one going in and out, he was there in his appartment drunk and covered in blood. They probably did a messy investigation of the crime scene in the beginning. For example if they found any long hair they would have thought :"he is a star, he is probably sleeping with a lot of women" and not "this long hair can be of the culprit". Also she had her hair tied and gloves so there is still some possibility that she didn't leave hair around. As a true crime passionate I know that often they don't find any hair of other people on the crime scene or the ones they find don't have the hair bulb so they are useless for DNA purpose. That said often investigations on the crime scene are done quite badly, especially when they have already an obvious culprit.

The only thing I didn't like much is the fact that she goes back to be a obsessed fan. Now she know her Idol in person, she can support him in other ways, ignoring him to buy a bag seems forced to me.
The whole point was liking him as a person and not as a star and him being happy about being liked like that and this feel like a step back.

Last but not least I'm so damn happy that the prosecutor became a good guy, I was rooting for him from the beginning and it's so nice seeing him put the right priorities in life, especially since he could have become an hot shot prosecutor but he is actually deciding to do his job for the good and not for the glory and to take cre of his mother.

I loved the whole interaction about staying there another night and the cute expressions connected to it. ML shows more his age when he is serious or sleeping but when he smile and do these puppy faces he seems to be in his early 20s, that's a super power

From the conversation with her father it doesn't seems so...

Yeah I don't know why they always do that, let people have friends!!

I was like: "you keep complaining about fan and them being stalker and now look at you, acting like a stalker" luckily she was drunk otherwise she would be terrified.

Actually a thing that bother me of a lot of drama is not the lack of personality, meaning things she likes and enjoy other than her Idol, because I know quite some people that have only an hobby, something they to in their free time and that's it. In this case I quite expect a lawyer in a country with long working hours not to have many other interests. What bothers me is that many female leads don't have friends other than the one man that is actually in love with them. Sena doesn't even have a family but it seems like there is nothing around her other than the friend that has a crush on her and that she keeps quite distant. Like when he is worried about her and she doesn't even let him do that I was like " any friend would be worried about you not eating or sleeping could you treat him more nicely??"

Yeah I think people have weird ideas of the job of a defence lawyer. every time the procecutor talked about some proof she found something that goes against that, like the nobody can enter without being seen from the camera thing. But she can't and shoudn't start a parallel investigation.

No clue what's the point of this comment, nor why a "I met you randomly while I was a teenager and now I'm your lawyer" should be somehow more realistic.

I don't know if it was a kiss, like in my brain was only that touching face and caressing a cheek thing. Like he was not getting closer and I didn't feel that vibe. I saw the akwardness more from the fact that it was anyway an intimate touch and till now she thought he saw her only as a lawyer and he is also confused about his feelings.

The thing is that a romance should not be good to be real. This is the first Kdrama I watch after years, but in the drama I watched before it was quite rare to see an healthy relationship. Most male leads were extremely jealous, bossy, treated the female lead really badly til they fell in love then they behaved as if she should suddenly also fall in love with them. Till now this is much better than all of that.
First of all because till now their relationship was professional, Raik can be a really problematic client, because he doesn't think before acting, but I don't remember him being unpolite or violent, he is simply focused on himself and his pain, why should he care about his lawyer feelings, or life or whatever? they were not friends.
Sena saw him as a client so of course she doesn't expect him to care for her, at most she can be disappointed for the idiotic things he does that can jeopardise the trial.
He started to ask questions and getting curios about her as soon as he realised that he was starting to like her. Also why he started to like her doesn't matter much and I don't think it's completely due to his loneliness and sadness, otherwise the easiest choice would have been going back to his ex girlfriend. People start to like other people for the most random reasons, liking somebody because they were kind when nobody else was seems reasonable.

It's me or he indirectly confessed he doesn't see her anymore as only a lawyer, when he was firing her? He pretty much said "If you were only my lawyer I would have not be that devastated by your lie but since you are not only that it hurts". Because she was saying that she could separate work from personal feelings and he says he can't separate the two things...
I'm curious about how she interpreted that...

What people don't understand is that raping a not conscious person is always sex assault. But in this case we have sex with an altered person and this can definetly be sexual assault so it's not something people should do but it's not always sexual assault. It's always the victim that decide if they were assaulted or not and Chen Yi didn't see it like this. So, is it bad to start having sex with somebody you are not 100% sure that want to have sex with you? yess, you shouldn't do it. Is it always rape? no, it depends on what the drunk person think. I will also add that there are many times in which both people are drunk so also the golden rule is not always aplicable. There are alsoinstances in which people want to have sex in drugged or drunk state (chem sex) so of course this rule can't be aplicable neither in this case.
In this specific situation also Chen Yi realized it was Ai Di, but Ai Di didn't know it so the morality of it is foggy anyway. That said I find quite funny when in a gangster/killer mafia enviroment people focus on these things (drunk sexual assault but also age gap of the other couple), you are literally watching a tv series on people that beat up others, kill them, probably sell drugs or other illegal stuff, why do they expect them to be good people?

The fact that you don't know them doesn't mean anything, I know people like that so they exist, maybe it's not that common but it's not impossible...

as I said I know people in their 20s that behave like that...

My sentence was " I know boys in their 20s that act like that with their crush ", not boys in general, but some boys I know are like that... maybe are are they neurodivergent? could be, but also neurodivergent people can be protagonists of a love story so I don't really see the problem....

Anyway what it seems people don't understand about consent age is that it's not only a law.
People like me that lived in a country in which age of consent is generally 16 (but for some specific cases also 14) grew up seeing relationship btw people under 18 and over 18 and so we formed our opinion on those relationships.
Some of them were good and lasted a very long time, some of them were bad and toxic but I can't really say that there was much difference btw some relationships btw people who were both 16 and people who were 16-17 and 22-25.
Some of my friends married the older person they were dating at 17 and they are still living happily together after 15 years and some of my friends were badly scarred by the relationship they had with somebody their same age.
Of course there is a higher possibility of a problematic power dynamic, but there are also other types of power dynamics that can be involved (I've seen relationship were the younger person was violent, controlling and manipulating and in my country it happened also that the younger person planned and killed the older one after robbing all their money).
My point is that the world is not black and white and things should be analysed individually

I didn't know about Jeff and Code, did he say it in some interview?

I think totally the opposite than the majority of people here.
The s*x scene at the beginning btw Ming and Nam was terible, I'm 99% sure it was filmed to be part of the second one night stand and they decided to put it in this episode only to get the attention of people obsessed with s*x scenes. This is the only good explenation I can give to the fact that they put a scene like this of two people that are now supposedly a couple without any dialogue before or after. Pun is a believable character, is he childish? maybe a little but I know boys in their 20s that act like that with their crush or also in general (If you look carefully Punn is slightly childish only when Ashi is involved). If people like this exist I don't know why you think it's impossible to act like this when you are able to go out with somebody you loved your whole life and that you thought would never ever be part of your life. The only time at that age I met somebody I was really fan of I almost had difficulties pronouncing my name why should Punn be different? I think all this hate is sadly connected to the fact that you all have a really stereotiped idea about the personality that a tall muscolar boy should have. To me is quite refreshing seeing a character like this and not the same stereotipe again and again.
This doesn't mean I don't find some issue in this tv series there are plot holes, things that go too fast and things that go too slow. Ashi personality is confusing and the "I want to meet your parents" was too random also for the honeymoon phase.

Yeah I don' t understand why everybody here dislike him so much I think he is a totally believable character:
1) young
2) first relationship
3) first relationship with the person you loved from afar all your life and that is also a superstar you would nevere ever could imagine would love you back
he is obviously a mix btw shy, insecure and horny how he should be...

I found it cute and perfect for the character, I think he did that because he wanted to show Achi that he is serious and that he care for the opinion of his manager and colleague. It's awkward but I wouldn't expect nothing different from a fan that loved only Achi in is whole life and is finally able to be close to him...