If I can defer from the opinion you have about the other viewers. I get why you feel so and that you think people…
I don't have a bad opinion of other viewers, and I really liked this series, but this board is literally filled with the words, "masterpiece" and "the best BL ever" so that's where I base my opinion that some people enjoy emotional angst more than I do. I cry easily when I watch a movie or series, so I am very sensitive to sad, traumatic or touching scenes. If I'm constantly crying, I can't catch the small nuances that this series is full of. I agree with you about the emotions, but in my opinion, the one emotion that I did not feel in this series was happiness. When there was a moment of happiness, it was always countered by something very sad, for example, the underwater scene, or Bas blessing Oh. I hope that Season 2 has more happy moments since they fought so hard to be where they're at. If not, I'll still watch Season 2. Maybe you can recommend some movies to watch.
Your opinion isn't unpopular...it's nice to read different opinions on how shows/films make different people feel:)…
Thanks and I hope that Season 2 has more that two minutes of happiness, because they deserve it. I think that's why I liked Gaya sa Pelikula, even though the acting and sets were not as good, and was low budget. I will to rewatch ISTAY just to see what I missed after my eyes are no longer sore from watching Episode 5. I'm looking forward to Season 2.
After watching the finale all I can think is...I feel so bad for the LGBTQ community in the Philippines. For this…
This show had so much potential with these talented actors, but didn't deliver. The mainstream audience just got confirmation that being gay is such a struggle and may cost you everything, including your life. I don't want to see season 2 where Sandee uses her "gift" to channel Ken and Shake to help the brothers out. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but it's difficult.
I agree. How about instead of a "homophobia will kill your kids" series, we get a "homophobia will lead your kids…
Yes, instead we get a fantasy version that even though they are in side by side urns, they are in the clouds together. I wish that LGBT+ filmmakers would show that the community has made so many positive things happen in the face of homophobia such as the HIV drug cocktails (gay activist groups were very active in demanding therapeutics) that are keeping people alive today and marriage equality in some countries. I believe that Ken's mom would have come around eventually and that would be something to show those parents who regret alienating their child.
I'm going to be unpopular and say while I really enjoyed the series, I thought it was too angsty for me and reminded me of older Japanese BL manga. I will have to rewatch to catch the details because I was too busy crying to catch nuances. I'm looking forward to season 2, where I hope they can be happy together for more than 2 minutes per episode. I understand that a lot of people like angst, but I can't fully enjoy something if I'm continuously crying.
I feel like this is the homophobia version of the "the is your brain on drugs" egg in the skillet PSA. I think it would have been better to show that in spite of Mom's homophobia, that Ken and Shake built a life together. They could have shown the mom agonizing over not being able to see her son, but also seeing him happy with this partner. "Normalization" (I believe the relationship is normal already) of Ken and Shake's relationship would have been a tool against homophobia as well.
Had the discussions in Episode 8 have taken place in Episode 7, we may have had a different ending. Karl needs more than a month and Vlad needs to not compromise. Neither are wrong. I would love to see a season 2 since the ending leaves it open to a reconciliation, based on what I saw.
I think they may be throwing some shade at the author and "management" of 2M2 for the way the original actors were dumped from the project. Allegedly, the author didn't like the 2Moons casting and the minions mostly went after Bas. That's why it's funny, not cringe to me.
I'm afraid to watch because of the synopsis above, "BenXJim follows the story of two people who turn from strangers, to friends, to lovers and back to strangers with memories. " Back to strangers means they don't make it. I like this couple and hope they are able to stay together.
Stop giving this a bad rating because it's sad. Ken and Shake are still together, so it's not really sad. History…
People are giving bad ratings because they feel emotionally manipulated and are upset by these old fashioned tropes. There are many people who do not believe in an afterlife, so to them these two young men are in a jar or in the ground. The people who don't want them together don't believe they are together in heaven, they will say that's what they get for being gay. If they didn't sin, the wouldn't have died. That's what they said when AIDS was killing people.
I'm not a gay man, so I'm not speaking for them, but this is yet another instance of where the gay person feels they have to consider everyone else's feelings above their own. Even in death Ken has to worry about his mom, who is partly responsible for the accident. Even in death Shake has to get trashed. Ken, just leave with Shake. Sandee can take care of your mom. If she learned from this, she wouldn't be drinking, she would be thinking about educating other parents.
I believe that everybody is entitled to their own story. It seems like everyone wants to write Karl's story, but…
I don't think that viewers are considering the timeline and that they only got together after Vlad ran back to the apartment. In fact in the beginning of the episode, it is Vlad, who keeps stating that it's their last day. They are young men who need to work on this between them. It's their relationship and they are should make the decisions.
I'm ooooooooold so I remember a time when you did not declare yourself an ally, the community declared you an ally. I remember the first time a gay man referred to me as so and so's f** h@g and I had not heard that gay slang before and it had to be explained to me. Since I'm old, I don't call my self out as an ally, but I am a proud parent of an LGBT child, so I think that I feel maternal toward these characters.
Has anyone read the manga who can comment on how accurately the drama is following it? What I love about this…
Only 2 volumes have been released in English and I haven't tried to get Japanese raws, but so far, the show is following it well and no non-con so far. I would classify it as shonen-ai up to Vol 2.
I'm ooooooooold so I remember a time when you did not declare yourself an ally, the community declared you an ally. I remember the first time a gay man referred to me as so and so's f** h@g and I had not heard that gay slang before and it had to be explained to me. Since I'm old, I don't call my self out as an ally, but I am a proud parent of an LGBT child, so I think that I feel maternal toward these characters.