Olive4213

I listed two reasons we have evidence of. We know the turnout for this election was low--certainly lower than polling predicted, and much lower than registered voters eligible to vote. We also know that Elon Musk spent a quarter of a billion dollars to elect Trump. These are facts.

The other stuff, what Democrats did and didn't do to elect their candidate, is more subjective, and debates about this are still going on. There are also other factors in this election: foreign interference (Russia and China; probably Iran), a poorly informed electorate, the collapse of legacy media and the siloing of information. Etc. How much these factors (and factors we don't know about) influenced the election outcome is only a guess at this point.

Ultimately, I don't think we're going to have a proper idea about why and how the election results were what they were for months, if not a year.

Democracy in South Korea is a newish idea, around since only the mid-80's or so. I don't think it reached the level of "sophisticated" Democracy yet.

Your post contains not a single original thought. It's all the usual MAGA stuff you guys are fed by Russia. Sad already, but made sadder that you're swallowing MAGA propaganda, and you're not even American.

Half of the terms you're throwing around, you couldn't define yourself if you were slapped in the head with an Oxford Dictionary. In two years, when you're 14, you're going to be so embarrassed that you were such a gullible tool.

It wasn't a "good margin". He won with the smallest margin of victory in the last 50 years. He won for many reasons that we're still thinking about, but two reasons were 1) a lot of people didn't vote at all and 2) the richest person in the world (Elon Musk) spent a quarter of a billion dollars of his own money to get him elected. This was, without doubt, the most corrupt election in our country's history.

This is just ridiculous.

It won't. South Koreans aren't new to political instability. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing is over with by the end of the month.

For what reason? How does it benefit the United States to remove Yoon from power?

The United States is frequently behind regime change in other countries, but S. Korea is a long-time ally of the US, and a bulwark against N. Korea.

You need to bring some proof before you make this allegation.

Whatever it is you're trying to say, it would probably be more believable if you weren't posting using an extremely racist username,

Except in Russia, N. Korea and Hungary (and a few other notable Russian allied countries), I think the world's consensus is that the United States has lost its damn mind, and I really can't disagree with that.

Well, up until a few weeks ago (before our election) I would have said that this kind of thing couldn't happen in the US. (We pride ourselves on being orderly. Ha ha.) But now I think we're (I'm in the US) sort of reaching a weird tipping point, too. We have a lot of foreign influence happening in the US, which is driving up a huge amount of trouble and division, and the really rich in our country are exploiting that and making money from it. It's a very, very stupid situation here where billionaires are encouraging the poor to vote against their own interests.

That's what I think, anyway.

Same.

The discussions about Trump, Ukraine, etc. don't belong in this thread, but it seems like the planet is politically very unstable right now, and I think this fear and insecurity is refusing to stay as compartmentalized as we might hope.

This was a massive event which is likely to affect the kdramas that are scheduled, taped, produced, written etc. going forward.

How (and why) to avoid mentioning something here that's so important?

Please knock off this insulting language.

I think that's the guy who advised Yoon to roll the dice. Egad. A dangerous fool.

It's a staggeringly bad read of where his country is right now, that's for sure. Hard to believe he thought he could pull it off, but maybe he thought he'd have the country in his palm, and since he's now a dictator, he can do whatever he wants. Or else, as someone suggested downthread, he was buying time so that he could do something else.

Some of his Cabinet, too, I think I read.

Oh, yeah. S. Korea's going to come for him with pitchforks.

I'm speculating, but I think a couple of things were happening: first, he was mentally in a place of desperation, with a sense of trying something BIG to change things--public opinion, ward off a possible coming impeachment, stop (permanently) any investigation into his family's corruption. He felt pushed, in other words, to take a very, very large and dangerous gamble.

And secondly--and this is just as important: he listened to a close advisor who told him it was a good risk (we have an idea already about who that was, and his political career is over now, too) for his own, personal ambition.

Yoon, his Cabinet, his advisors--anyone closely associated with him--all will have to resign.

I like a second chance romance, too, especially if there's a redemption arc. But not if the ML is an unrepentant shithead. Then, he needs to die a slow, miserable, painful death.