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What about the extreme fans here? The ones who play rating games because they're anti fans, stalking posts and comments, trolling essays because their darlings have been criticized? Aren't they part of sasseang culture too?

If I lived to be 1000 years old, I will never understand this kind of fandom. To me, its evidence of mental imbalance. Neither the courts nor a country's culture should allow stalking, invasion of privacy, harassment or any other activities typical of extreme fan culture to be acceptable or normalized.

Every time I see this here at MDL, it makes me absolutely cringe, and you all have seen it here, too.

What can or should we be doing about it here, in our own backyard?

Intelligent and thoughtful, with an insight I hadn't considered.

Thank you.

I realize that this story is popular, which is why there are Korean, Thai and Chinese versions. But it's so boring and dumb. Why do people like it so much?

You did better than me. I bailed after 10 minutes.

Sorry, not intending this as a criticism of you, Empress. just in case it seemed that way. I agree with you completely.

Unless a person is family or a close friend, they have NO involvement in these actors' lives. For fuck's sake, be grateful for the hours and hours these actors work to make the dramas we love, and leave them alone. Criticize their work, sure. Criticize them as people? Just fucking stop. Leave them alone; don't write and post things that add to these people's psychic load.

Who cares about them? It's about you--the kind of person you want to be. Hold on to your goodness, even when you're fighting a fire.

Many of these comments are thoughtless and very unkind.
But while you're rightly condemning these comments, don't write one that's just as bad.

This is a clusterfuck all around.

Believe, disbelieve. Whatever. It is undeniably true that this actor is very unwell. What matters--the only thing that matters--is that she does what's necessary to get better.

The entertainment industry in China treats its talent like they're vending machines. It bullies and exploits them--even top stars like Zhao Lu Si, and it threatens them with their careers to force them to conform. The only thing China's government cares about is whether the actors are paying their taxes and isn't gay. It's not going to do a damn thing about the exploitation of the kids in the industry.

For these reasons, I can well believe that a manager treated Rosy like shit, and she's experiencing PTSD as a continuing result.

Egad. No wonder I couldn't figure it out. Thanks for the help!

I couldn't unwind that synopsis if I had a map and a flashlight. Also, Vin Zhang is ML, so drama will probably kill him off again. I'm more than willing to be wrong, though.

Bring your counter argument. That would be interesting

But calling another poster a name, whose only sin is presenting an opinion you don't agree with, is not it.

Isn't life hard enough already without griefing other people who don't have it coming?

I like the drama, and I look forward to it every week, but you've done a very good job of raising the issues I have with it, too. I hope some of these questions are answered by the end of the show, otherwise it's going to be another Kdrama that started out with a bang and ended on a whimper.

"Woke" has a real meaning, though. Like any other word in any language on Earth, you can't just make up a meaning that you like better. Words mean what they say. Believe me when I tell you, you are using this word incorrectly.

I don't think you can have a Cdrama of any era if it isn't about miscommunication. It's like Chinese scriptwriters all go to the same academy and ace the unit on "using miscommunication for drama plotting." Isn't it tiresome?

You can use any word you feel like you have to, but that doesn't mean you're using it right. And you ain't.

I watched it again, and liked it more the 2nd time (probably because since I already knew how it ended, everything made more sense.)

These are good points. But, I think we have to keep in mind that Chinese dramas are written for a Chinese audience, so the writing may reflect different cultural expectations, attitudes and norms. They may have a different idea about what "romance" means. Western romantic ideas insist on happy endings (with some notable exceptions, but these are more often called "tragedy" than they're called "romance") whereas Eastern romantic ideals allow/include sad endings and bitterness.

I could be worng. What do you guys think?

Welp, I think it's going to be mostly mystery/thriller from now on.