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What a wonderful drama and message. Books are for everyone!

Thank you. I figured as much. The Liu Chang character reminded me a great deal of the second male lead in Brocade Odyssey. In fact many of the scenes from second season seem to be copied from other dramas, especially when Mu Dan sneaks into JCY's camp. This is straight out of Love Like the Galaxy. It appears that the writers did not know what to do with what they had created before and just went the easy route and used all the tropes of the genre. I have never been so disappointed in a drama as this one.

Thank you for the discussion and happy drama watching.

Have you read the novel? Is it an adaptation or is it based on the novel. There is a big difference in these literary terms. Adapted means the screenwriter keeps everything in the story as is and just makes sure that everything can transfer to the screen. Based on means that the screenwriter has taken the source material and used it for a different purpose. So here it could be that the first part is the based on and the last part is the adaptation. Just my thoughts.

You're right the Miles Wei character is a foil for Mu Dan and the princess is for JCY. So much wasted potential and talent. For me, I enjoyed the OST, but even after a while that got old.

To you, yes, and that is okay, but I had questions at the end of the drama. Why did she speak and act like a child throughout most of the drama? Why did they focus on the novel The End of Eternity so much in the beginning of the drama? Why do some commenters think that DJX is a pedophile or that this drama is about grooming? I can now answer those questions.

Just because you and others are not curious and don't want to look beyond the surface doesn't mean that what others are saying isn't there. You're simple explanation is right, but that is not the whole story. It's okay.

Thank you for the discussion.

If you don't understand where the Little Red Riding Hood idea is coming from ask the person who wrote about it. Yes, it was me. I can back up my idea through her fox picture that is signed Rosy and it is the only picture signed with Zhao Lu Si's nickname. This easter egg in plain sight shows that something deeper is going on in the story than just a simple, fluffy love story. Also, the dorm room scene when she goes to help her brother move, Sang Yan's dorm mate with the glasses comes really close to her. Sang Yan stops him, and the roommate says something to the effect I have bad eyes I need to get closer. When she pretends to have an older online boyfriend, everyone gets worried and concerned that she will be taken advantage of. There are multiple scenes warning about the dangers of older men and younger girls. This is exactly the message of Little Red Riding Hood.

Do you know that the age of consent in China is 14? This means that Sang Zhi is mentally ready to have sex with anyone above the age of 14, so her having sex at 14, 17, or 19 is perfectly legal even with someone who is 50 years old. This drama asks the questions when and with whom should a girl start her sexual journey, thus Little Red Riding Hood.

You're right on the surface this is a simple, fluffy love story, but underneath is a tidal wave of so much more. Most viewers watch for entertainment and that is okay. Happy drama watching.

Actually, I agree with you. They kept the theme of control for his character, but limited it to his relationship with Mu Dan. At the end of Flourished Peony he is determined to get revenge on Prince Ning, his parents, and the princess. The very people who made his life the way it is. In season 2 this whole theme of revenge just disappears, and he becomes a cliche villain. Another theme that evaporates is him pulling himself up by his own bootstraps. He wanted to make a name for himself and be a good official through his own merits. You can see that he is on his way, but what makes him turn to the dark side? Also, he was determined to be different than his parents. This theme falls by the wayside as well even though at the end of FP he is on his way to being that. Finally, this drama portrayed the theme of if the tradition doesn't work, change it. In the Name of Blossom, every drama convention remained the same, so much for changing the way drama tropes work and it began with the Miles Wei character.

The writers had a beautiful opportunity to change drama tropes, but either didn't know how to write it or were too chicken to do so. Instead they relied on tradition rather than creating something new. This is just my opinion. I am glad that other people have enjoyed it, but for me it was just a waste of good talent.

Thank you for the discussion and your insight.

Yes, but they end it at the beginning of his 10 years left.

For starters, every theme related to the Miles Wei character disappeared. His character was turned into a second rate bumbling cliche villain and a miniature Prince Ning. It was a waste of his character and Miles Wei's acting ability. Also, all the themes built up around the princess. Her character pretty much disappeared in this drama. Even the themes surrounding Prince Ning disappeared. For me, it was like a whole new drama with the main character being the center of attention and her companions made into her accessories (this metaphor was used by another commenter, but so true).

So if you enjoyed this drama, I am glad someone did, but for me it was a waste of acting talent and sets.

Thank you and I am fully aware that the source material is based on the author's real life experience. But the author of the source material is not the screenwriter. On appearance, this drama covers the source material, but uses that source material for an entirely different purpose. This is why you have the literary terms adapted from and based on the source material. Adapting a novel means putting that novel on screen as is. Based on means that the source material is used for a certain purpose. This drama is based on a novel, not adapted from that novel.

Most viewers watch dramas for entertainment purposes. They don't want to think, and this drama provides that viewing experience. For most viewers it is what you say and that is okay. You are not wrong. At first I thought the same thing, but I know Zhao Lu Si would never play a simple, fluff character. Any character she plays speaks for or against some sort of social aspect of Chinese life. This drama is no exception. What clued me into this was the way she spoke like a child throughout most of the drama (even when she is 19). Many viewers have commented on this and are annoyed by it (including me). They think it is to make her look cute. When in fact, it is very intentional for the purpose of this drama.

Also in the drama are many easter eggs that enhance the purpose of the story, the stuffed animals, the novel The End of Eternity, her first fox picture, the flower in the museum, the tidal wave, the milk bottle scene, the period scene skirt, and DJX's job. These are just a few. There are many more.

Hope this helps and thank you for the discussion.

I would also switch. The translations get better on Viki and the flute music is beautiful. Good luck and happy drama watching.

Episode 6 is where the action really takes off for Shao Shang. As for the mother, you are not the only one who dislikes the mother. A great many controversial comments have been made about her, and yes she will get better. Also, I won't spoil it for you with Yang Yang, but you are right she will change!

I don't know which forum you are watching this on, but the translations are different per forum. The Youtube translations are very different from the Viki translations. Youtube translations make the mother much softer than Viki. Just a heads up.

While I enjoyed the sets, costumes, and cultural aspects of this second season, I felt like I was watching a really bad homage to all the great dramas with this theme. The rich characters, plot, and themes from Flourished Peony just evaporated into thin air. So disappointing.

While I am not sure what you disagree with, I am curious as to what you think the point of this drama is.

What you are talking about is morality. Everyone has a set of morals that they live by. Your moral compass justifies BS as a villain because that is your sense of morality. What you have failed to take into account is the morality the boys have been displaying. It is okay to beat people up as long as you don't go too far. Suho is the morality police. He defines what is too far in this created world. But Suho shouldn't be the only one defining what is too far. Parents, teachers, cops (who are supposed to know the difference between right and wrong) should help define these morals. When one parent literally beats into his child that if someone bullies you, you must stand up for yourself and a teacher who just transfers the student, these events support this moral code. When Suho stops BS, he goes against even his own moral code. This sets up that Suho thinks he is better than everyone else, and he needs to be taken down. Do the boys go too far, yes. Is it terrible what happens to Suho, yes. Will life change because of what happened to Suho, no. When Si Eun transfers schools, it begins again.

You can only change something when you understand what the root of the problem is. The morality code of this world needs to change.

Again, thank you for the discussion. You have really helped me understand this drama better. I just don't agree with your conclusion and that is okay.

At present I am on episode 44. Throughout this drama there have been some places where I feel the writers were just lazy. first the whole military case. Common sense would say the medicine that was received by the military was still top grade medicine that the Wu family provided. The rosin bag had been found and taken out. The order was completed the way it should have been. Why would anyone in their right mind want to change the outcome, especially the royalty. Makes me wonder how smart the royalty is.

Also, they have built Zhou Ying up to be someone who cares about her workers and smart in business. Wouldn't it make sense to train her already knowledgeable workers on the new machines thus providing them with a livelihood. I know change is hard, but these workers have to change with the times.

Does anyone know where I can watch this with English subtitles on a legit forum?

After watching Nothing Gold Can Stay, Shao Shang seems to be modeled after Zhou Ying (the main female lead) as her actions are just like Zhou Ying. Also, there is a scene where Zhou Ying must copy the women's guide to good behavior (something to that effect), and she is holding a brush that writes it three times. What an homage to NGCS!

Baek Seom is the adopted son of the congressman. Not even his biological son. BS has been trying to win his father's love. He doesn't get it when he does a good thing by stopping the man who runs the gang of kids. In fact, his dad beats him for not beating up the guy. What kind of father does that? The guy was not bullying BS, so there was no need to beat him up. BS couldn't win. The only way he was going to win his father's love was if he beat up someone who had actually bullied him.

Now along comes Suho who pretty much has the same kind of power among the boys at school as his dad does. Everyone is afraid of and listens to him even the rich kids. At the karaoke place, BS has a chance to get back at the boys who bullied him at his other school. We don't know how many years that went on until he transferred. What does Suho do? He stops him from beating up the boys with the mic and just allows him a slap and an apology. Wow! This goes against everything that Suho allows other kids to do. Why does he stop BS? He could stop him if he goes too far even with the mic.

I'm convinced that even if BS didn't win the fight against his previous bullies, he would have had more confidence. He would have fulfilled his father's wishes and become the son that his dad wanted. However, because Suho stopped him before he really and truly had a chance to get revenge, Suho set himself up for what Baek Seom did to him. BS used the only weapon he had, money. Now, the other side also did not play fair. There was more than one boy who tried to take Suho out not just Baek Seom. He was the main instigator, but he is only doing what his dad taught him.

Also, for me, Baek Seom didn't have a thing for Suho, but Si Eun. However, Si Eun liked Suho. All of this is just my opinion. You and many others want to make BS a villain. That's okay we all have different opinions. Thank you again for the discussion and happy drama watching.

Many viewers agree with you. I, on the other hand, do not. All of them are a product of their environment. Why does the first boy pick on Si Eun in the first place? What did Si Eun do to him? People need to stop bullying before it starts, but the parents, teachers, cops, politicians, and even the boys turn a blind eye to it. The kids responsible are never held accountable. So the cycle continues. You even have parents literally beating into their kids the idea that one should beat up people who bully you whether they are really the ones who are bullying you or not.

Viewers want a villain and a good guy. These ideals drive plots and create the conflict in the drama. Baek Seom becomes the villain in a world where everyone should be considered the bad guys because no one tries to stop it. The cycle just continues in the next school.

Thank you for the discussion.