Just because there was a breakup in an old movie, doesn’t mean it was worth keeping a tired trope in the drama.…
It's okay that you and others haven't watched the movie. I am getting added enjoyment from the drama because I have seen the movie. The drama screenwriters did an excellent job of capturing the spirit and essence of the movie, but made it their own story.
This drama is named Spooky in Love. It plays on every definition of the word ghost and spooky: everything from literal ghosts to figurative ones, superstitions, and old buildings, but also loving someone, fear of rejection, and losing what you love. The drama is very creative and well written.
These last two episodes were quite creative in their definition of the word ghost as Min Hwan and Yeo Ri are both ghosts socially and in the business world. You could even say that Prosecutor Ma was and is a ghost because of his heart. The Singapore hotel's motif was an owl. In traditional Malay culture owls are harbingers of death, bad luck, and disasters. These characteristics fit both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri to a T. In modern culture owls mean good fortune and wisdom. Which also fit Min Hwan and Yeo Ri. If their two hotels merged it would bring both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri good fortune.
Now, you had a question about why Yeo Ri would break up with PM now and ruin the image of Seina. Min Hwan explained it. If they can get people to lose faith in Reina stock they will sell it and Min Hwan and Yeo Ri can buy it up. Both want to protect Reina because it is highest grossing hotel in Korea. Min Hwan would be a fool to destroy it. All he wants is to merge his hotel with Yeo Ri's and become the largest hotel market in Korea. This would make his family probably trillions of dollars. All Min Hwan has ever wanted was for Yeo Ri to acknowledge him and be on his side. What would be so terrible if the two hotels merged?
Since the stocks are going to plummet anyway due to her association with art fraud case, let's just kill two birds with one stone. We know the stock will plummet if the broken engagement comes out. It will uphold the image that Siena is cursed. Now, that Min Hwan has made his move. Yeo Ri and PM can make theirs. Why have two separate times for the stock to plummet when you can make it just once?
Hope this helps. I don't care if people haven't seen the movie. Everything is explained in the drama. Viewers just need think. Happy drama watching. Again, thank you for the discussion.
I have a theory that they originally had a ghost story about the 3% shareholder, but they removed it because of…
Actually, if the hotel where they were staying has the stuffed owls and glass stain window with owl as their motif then it fits right in with the drama as owls in traditional Malay culture are harbingers of death, bad luck, and disasters. In modern culture they mean good fortune and wisdom.
Also, there is a ghost story about the 3% percent stock holder. Han Se-in wants to preserve her fathers building, just like Yeo Ri wants to perserve her parents building. These building. represent memories or ghosts from the past. If you erase everything from the past, how do you learn and grow from it.
The screenwriters have done an excellent job of playing with the different definitions of the word ghost in this drama.
Very possible. It doesn't make sense to skip ghosts entirely for two episodes otherwise
They haven't skipped the ghost stories in fact they are beginning to wrap up the most important ghost story Ji Hwan. Within the drama the important ghost stories (the ones that relate to the plot of the story) have been given flesh and bone story telling. We know how and why they became ghosts in other words the back story. Episode 9 has given us most of the back story of the most important ghost in the drama, Ji Hwan. The ghost that appeared behind Yeo Ri in the parking garage and wrote on the mirror for Prosecutor Ma. He is the main ghost along with his brother Min Hwan. So they have not forgotten about the ghosts.
The title of this drama is Hidden Love and it is very aptly named. I say this because even at 14 Sang Zhi has a crush on DJX. Let's look at her actions: she dreamily waits for her brother by the door hoping that he will bring DJX with him. When DJX gives SZ the light bulb, she takes it into her room and draws a picture of him patting her head. She bothers her brother about when DJX is coming over. These are actions of a girl with a crush. She doesn't have to say it out loud. The audience can tell. She doesn't have to say it out loud that she has a crush on him. Her actions say it.
Yes, DJX does talk to Sang Yan before going to the school and pretending to be her brother. Sang Yan wants her to get in trouble and refuses to go. He gives DJX permission to go in his place. Now, the biggest trouble is that DJX doesn't tell Sang Yan that he actually went to the school and promises Sang Zhi that he wouldn't tell Sang Yan. This is a red flag in my book. It is what predators do. They get the prey to trust them and then they pounce.
As I have said before, you need to compare what DJX does for Sang Zhi and what Sang Yan does for Sang Zhi. You can interpret these actions as either a brother or a boyfriend. The choice is the viewers.
So we are not pushing a fake narrative. We are pushing a very real narrative in China. China ranks number 1 in human trafficking and has for at least 10 years. Their laws make it easy for 14 year olds to be used as prostitutes even though prostitution is illegal. It still goes on.
You really do need to read The End of Eternity. And you and I both know that Zhao Lu Si is a social activist. Her dramas either speak out for something or fight against something.
Ok. This last two episodes could have fit into one. Too much drama and politics whatever happened to the spooks?…
The couple does have sex in the movie, and there is also talk of five different types of kissing. I was hoping they would add that to the drama. We still have two episodes.
Just because there was a breakup in an old movie, doesn’t mean it was worth keeping a tired trope in the drama.…
First, I need to say thank you as I have been trying to figure something out how they use magic in this drama as it is the main theme of the movie (illusion). The male lead is a magician, Magician Ma. Your comment has helped me.
Now, you're right. The reason for the fake engagement was to create an illusion, an image, so that the stock prices would go up and the image of Siena as a bad luck venue would be changed. By all appearances this bad luck is still there as the couple is about to break up because PM's grandmother forbids him to get involved with a girl born in the year of the black monkey. After talking with his grandmother, Yeo Ri decides to break it off. The illusion is gone and the reality is back.
Since we have two more episodes, what is the biggest situation facing Yeo Ri and Prosecutor Ma right now? PM is being sent overseas and Yeo Ri is being questioned by the authorities as to her role in the art fraud case. After all the art is hanging in the Reina Hotel. Who is behind this illusion and manipulating these events, Min Hwan. He is the magician. He is going to make PM disappear, so that he can now complete his own illusion.
What does all of this rambling have to do the break up? How do you catch a ghost who is playing hide-and-seek? Pretend to hide and wait for it to come out. The writers of this drama have taken scenes from the movie and used them in fresh new ways to make the story more spooky and dynamic.
How do you get grandma off your back? Pretend to break up. How do flush out a ghost creating havoc with your company? Pretend to break up. How do you get Yeo Ri to finally allow PM to hold her hand without gloves? Pretend to break up.
This is just my theory. I could have given my theory in the original post, but I can't confirm that this is where the writers are going with it. Instead I gave the facts. There is a break up scene in the last 15 minutes of the movie, and it plays a vital role in the couple having their happy ending.
The writers have also created other illusions in the drama. The main one was his near death experience. While viewers are looking at the surface of the drama, there is more going on underneath.
Thank you for the discussion and happy drama watching.
To viewers who are upset about the break up scene, I understand and sympathize as it is an overdone trope. However, as a watcher and lover of the movie, the writers are just following the plot outline of the last 15 minutes of the movie, and the movie has a wonderful ending.
In addition, for viewers who wanted to see more ghosts. For every fleshed out ghost story, we get the ghosts' back stories. In episode 9, we are now finally getting the most important ghost's back story, Ji Hwan's. And we are getting it from two perspectives. So they haven't forgotten about the ghosts. Plus, sprinkled throughout the drama are easter eggs that enhance the spooky image of the drama (the stuffed owls and stain glass owl in episodes 9 & 10) shows that the writers and props people are going above and beyond to give us ghostly images even when there are no literal ghosts in episodes.
Finally, the writers of this drama have given us a ghost in every episode whether it is a literal ghost, figurative, or both. In these last two episodes, Yeo Ri doesn't know who is making her life miserable right now, and one of the best camera shots in episode 9 is the one that shows the reflection of Min Hwan while he is drinking with Ha Ri. His reflection is distorted and hazy symbolizing that he is a ghost. A ghost from Yeo Ri's past and present who must be dealt with.
The drama is based on this movie. Actually, the writers of the drama have a done a great job of capturing the…
You should definitely watch the movie Spellbound if you haven't. It is so much fun seeing all the small details that they incorporated into the drama. I agree the drama has been a fun ride.
How come a ghost didn't scare Prosecutor Ma in the elevator to prevent him from getting engaged, in the same terrifying…
Yes, she said that to him because she wanted him to understand that if he kept seeing her, then there is a good chance that he could get touched again and see ghosts again. Common sense tells you that if don't play with fire you won't get burnt. The same applies to Yeo Ri. If you leave Yeo Ri alone, you won't see ghosts. At that time, Yeo Ri was trying to scare him off as she doesn't want what happen to her first fiance to happen to him. The ex fiance stayed away and hasn't seen ghosts since.
Now, through trial and error Yeo Ri and Prosecutor Ma have figured out that it is only Yeo Ri's direct touch with her hands that will make people see ghosts. To solve this problem, she needs to deal with the ghost of Ji Hwan and get back the locket.
Yes, I found that a little weird as well but would it have served the same purpose if she had lived. There would…
Yes, I can see your point and believe that is why she did it. However, she could have hidden out long enough for the Go Di to come find her. But you're right her death made it more important.
Is this drama good? I saw some negative reviews about it in the chat earlier about a lot of toxicity... Is it…
Rest assured the screenwriters did an amazing job of transferring the concepts of the movie to the drama but have also made it their own. Most viewers wanted a detective style drama and do not realize that this is a romcom based on Spellbound.
For more information, you can read my discussion post about what was taken from the movie. There is more. I just haven't put it on yet as the drama isn't finished. I am still waiting for the magic theme to be used.
How come a ghost didn't scare Prosecutor Ma in the elevator to prevent him from getting engaged, in the same terrifying…
I understand what you are talking about. You are talking about the rumors that were going around about her in college and now.
After her failed attempt at marriage and the death of her friend Ji Hwan, Yeo Ri makes a vow to protect the people around her from herself. She does this by wearing dark clothing from head to toe, living in a house surrounded by a wall far from the city, buys all the tables around her at restaurants, has employees keep their distance, and wears gloves. She has literally and figuratively created a protective shell around herself. Nothing can get in but also can't get out.
However, this protective shell has also created a lonely existence for Yeo Ri. In appearance, she seems happy to be by herself, and she describes herself as a living ghost. By sending people away, she not only protects them, but also protects herself from getting hurt again.
Now, enter Prosecutor Ma who is the exact opposite of her. He chisels away at her protective shell and finally manages to break it. Because she meets him, her world has been changed. She no longer dresses in dark heavy fabrics but in light, colorful clothing. She goes out with people. The only thing dark and heavy are her gloves which literally cover the source of her pain. In order to be free of the gloves, she must confront where the source of that pain comes from the death of her friend Ji Hwan.
Where are the ghosts ?? Where did those spooky vibes vanish to ? The only thing that keeps me hooked right now…
Aren't Min Hwan and Ha Ri scary enough! Sometimes the living are scarier than the dead. Besides Min Hwan is a ghost to Yeo Ri and Yeo Ri is a ghost to Min Hwan.
How come a ghost didn't scare Prosecutor Ma in the elevator to prevent him from getting engaged, in the same terrifying…
Are you talking about the educational show Sesame Street? As I looked on her MDL page and couldn't find this drama. I will watch anything with her in it.
How come a ghost didn't scare Prosecutor Ma in the elevator to prevent him from getting engaged, in the same terrifying…
Yes, I love PEB and have watched most of her recent dramas. i need to finish Hyper Knife and several other dramas of hers. My very first kdrama was her in The King's Affection, and I have loved her ever since.
I am with you on this. While I don't think Min Hwan is the best person to love Yeo Ri, he still doesn't deserve…
While I do think she is concerned about Prosecutor Ma and Yeo Ri as they remind her of Ji Hwan, I didn't get the vibe that she would be changing her heir. MH up to this point seems to being doing well with the company, and she doesn't seem displeased about it.
Now what we don't know is what she knew about both boys liking Yeo Ri. Min Hwan being the oldest should have had first shot at her. Since they were raised as twins, he should also have first shot at becoming CEO of the company. However, since he is adopted, he feels inferior to his brother as he is not a blood relative which in Asian cultures seems to be a big no-no when it comes to inheriting or anything else.
Also, we finally get a look into Min Hwan's thoughts about why he loves Yeo Ri. I don't find his love for her toxic. I think the two are kindred spirits. Both have a fatal flaw that could ruin their chances of running their respective companies. The fact that both of them have successfully run their business up to this point proves that having a fatal flaw like being adopted or seeing ghosts should not be held against them. Also, both of them have put on a protective shell especially after the death of Ji Hwan. I think Min Hwan is haunted by ghosts as well, especially Ji Hwan's. You can see that he tried to catch Ji Hwan when he went overboard, and I don't blame him for not jumping overboard to help his brother as he could have died as well from hitting head on the rock the boat hit. He does seem to feel guilty about the death his brother.
So while other people are hating on Min Hwan, I see him as a victim of circumstances out of his control. Also, he hasn't physically or mentally tried to hurt Yeo Ri. Presently, he is buying up stock in Reina and appears to be taking her out that way, but we shall see.
How come a ghost didn't scare Prosecutor Ma in the elevator to prevent him from getting engaged, in the same terrifying…
First, in the beginning episode, the ghost that scared the ex-finance away was Ji Hwan. Ji Hwan is clearly shown in the background. Yeo Ri does not see him, but it is to show that he is protecting Yeo Ri from this man. We don't know why as the ex appeared to be a good guy, but he didn't have the guts to stay with Yeo Ri once ghosts really came at him. Since Prosecutor Ma is different. He has experienced the ghosts and has not run away. But he also has Ji Hwan's heart, it makes sense that Ji Hwan would not haunt him. Ji Hwan loved Yeo Ri and through Prosecutor Ma, Ji Hwan has a chance to love her as well.
Also, just because there is an event in the pool area, doesn't mean that the pool closes down for a party. Other guests are still able to use the pool as well as the people who are networking. It makes sense that the memories come back to her when she is around people, water, and Min Hwan.
Finally, after the month is over Yeo Ri tells Prosecutor Ma that she feels they shouldn't see each other again. It is not because of the ghosts. It is because she has built a protective shell around herself, and she is feeling guilty that she caused him to see ghosts. This is why he keeps reassuring her that it is okay that he has seen the ghosts as it helps him understand what she is going through and can help her. Slowly but surely he has chiseled away at her protective shell. Even though he is a scaredy cat, he has the guts to look past the ghosts and really see Yeo Ri for who she is.
This drama is named Spooky in Love. It plays on every definition of the word ghost and spooky: everything from literal ghosts to figurative ones, superstitions, and old buildings, but also loving someone, fear of rejection, and losing what you love. The drama is very creative and well written.
These last two episodes were quite creative in their definition of the word ghost as Min Hwan and Yeo Ri are both ghosts socially and in the business world. You could even say that Prosecutor Ma was and is a ghost because of his heart. The Singapore hotel's motif was an owl. In traditional Malay culture owls are harbingers of death, bad luck, and disasters. These characteristics fit both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri to a T. In modern culture owls mean good fortune and wisdom. Which also fit Min Hwan and Yeo Ri. If their two hotels merged it would bring both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri good fortune.
Now, you had a question about why Yeo Ri would break up with PM now and ruin the image of Seina. Min Hwan explained it. If they can get people to lose faith in Reina stock they will sell it and Min Hwan and Yeo Ri can buy it up. Both want to protect Reina because it is highest grossing hotel in Korea. Min Hwan would be a fool to destroy it. All he wants is to merge his hotel with Yeo Ri's and become the largest hotel market in Korea. This would make his family probably trillions of dollars. All Min Hwan has ever wanted was for Yeo Ri to acknowledge him and be on his side. What would be so terrible if the two hotels merged?
Since the stocks are going to plummet anyway due to her association with art fraud case, let's just kill two birds with one stone. We know the stock will plummet if the broken engagement comes out. It will uphold the image that Siena is cursed. Now, that Min Hwan has made his move. Yeo Ri and PM can make theirs. Why have two separate times for the stock to plummet when you can make it just once?
Hope this helps. I don't care if people haven't seen the movie. Everything is explained in the drama. Viewers just need think. Happy drama watching. Again, thank you for the discussion.
Also, there is a ghost story about the 3% percent stock holder. Han Se-in wants to preserve her fathers building, just like Yeo Ri wants to perserve her parents building. These building. represent memories or ghosts from the past. If you erase everything from the past, how do you learn and grow from it.
The screenwriters have done an excellent job of playing with the different definitions of the word ghost in this drama.
Happy drama watching.
The title of this drama is Hidden Love and it is very aptly named. I say this because even at 14 Sang Zhi has a crush on DJX. Let's look at her actions: she dreamily waits for her brother by the door hoping that he will bring DJX with him. When DJX gives SZ the light bulb, she takes it into her room and draws a picture of him patting her head. She bothers her brother about when DJX is coming over. These are actions of a girl with a crush. She doesn't have to say it out loud. The audience can tell. She doesn't have to say it out loud that she has a crush on him. Her actions say it.
Yes, DJX does talk to Sang Yan before going to the school and pretending to be her brother. Sang Yan wants her to get in trouble and refuses to go. He gives DJX permission to go in his place. Now, the biggest trouble is that DJX doesn't tell Sang Yan that he actually went to the school and promises Sang Zhi that he wouldn't tell Sang Yan. This is a red flag in my book. It is what predators do. They get the prey to trust them and then they pounce.
As I have said before, you need to compare what DJX does for Sang Zhi and what Sang Yan does for Sang Zhi. You can interpret these actions as either a brother or a boyfriend. The choice is the viewers.
So we are not pushing a fake narrative. We are pushing a very real narrative in China. China ranks number 1 in human trafficking and has for at least 10 years. Their laws make it easy for 14 year olds to be used as prostitutes even though prostitution is illegal. It still goes on.
You really do need to read The End of Eternity. And you and I both know that Zhao Lu Si is a social activist. Her dramas either speak out for something or fight against something.
Good to hear from you. Happy drama watching.
Now, you're right. The reason for the fake engagement was to create an illusion, an image, so that the stock prices would go up and the image of Siena as a bad luck venue would be changed. By all appearances this bad luck is still there as the couple is about to break up because PM's grandmother forbids him to get involved with a girl born in the year of the black monkey. After talking with his grandmother, Yeo Ri decides to break it off. The illusion is gone and the reality is back.
Since we have two more episodes, what is the biggest situation facing Yeo Ri and Prosecutor Ma right now? PM is being sent overseas and Yeo Ri is being questioned by the authorities as to her role in the art fraud case. After all the art is hanging in the Reina Hotel. Who is behind this illusion and manipulating these events, Min Hwan. He is the magician. He is going to make PM disappear, so that he can now complete his own illusion.
What does all of this rambling have to do the break up? How do you catch a ghost who is playing hide-and-seek? Pretend to hide and wait for it to come out. The writers of this drama have taken scenes from the movie and used them in fresh new ways to make the story more spooky and dynamic.
How do you get grandma off your back? Pretend to break up. How do flush out a ghost creating havoc with your company? Pretend to break up. How do you get Yeo Ri to finally allow PM to hold her hand without gloves? Pretend to break up.
This is just my theory. I could have given my theory in the original post, but I can't confirm that this is where the writers are going with it. Instead I gave the facts. There is a break up scene in the last 15 minutes of the movie, and it plays a vital role in the couple having their happy ending.
The writers have also created other illusions in the drama. The main one was his near death experience. While viewers are looking at the surface of the drama, there is more going on underneath.
Thank you for the discussion and happy drama watching.
In addition, for viewers who wanted to see more ghosts. For every fleshed out ghost story, we get the ghosts' back stories. In episode 9, we are now finally getting the most important ghost's back story, Ji Hwan's. And we are getting it from two perspectives. So they haven't forgotten about the ghosts. Plus, sprinkled throughout the drama are easter eggs that enhance the spooky image of the drama (the stuffed owls and stain glass owl in episodes 9 & 10) shows that the writers and props people are going above and beyond to give us ghostly images even when there are no literal ghosts in episodes.
Finally, the writers of this drama have given us a ghost in every episode whether it is a literal ghost, figurative, or both. In these last two episodes, Yeo Ri doesn't know who is making her life miserable right now, and one of the best camera shots in episode 9 is the one that shows the reflection of Min Hwan while he is drinking with Ha Ri. His reflection is distorted and hazy symbolizing that he is a ghost. A ghost from Yeo Ri's past and present who must be dealt with.
Hope this helps. Happy drama watching.
Now, through trial and error Yeo Ri and Prosecutor Ma have figured out that it is only Yeo Ri's direct touch with her hands that will make people see ghosts. To solve this problem, she needs to deal with the ghost of Ji Hwan and get back the locket.
Hope this helps. Happy drama watching.
For more information, you can read my discussion post about what was taken from the movie. There is more. I just haven't put it on yet as the drama isn't finished. I am still waiting for the magic theme to be used.
After her failed attempt at marriage and the death of her friend Ji Hwan, Yeo Ri makes a vow to protect the people around her from herself. She does this by wearing dark clothing from head to toe, living in a house surrounded by a wall far from the city, buys all the tables around her at restaurants, has employees keep their distance, and wears gloves. She has literally and figuratively created a protective shell around herself. Nothing can get in but also can't get out.
However, this protective shell has also created a lonely existence for Yeo Ri. In appearance, she seems happy to be by herself, and she describes herself as a living ghost. By sending people away, she not only protects them, but also protects herself from getting hurt again.
Now, enter Prosecutor Ma who is the exact opposite of her. He chisels away at her protective shell and finally manages to break it. Because she meets him, her world has been changed. She no longer dresses in dark heavy fabrics but in light, colorful clothing. She goes out with people. The only thing dark and heavy are her gloves which literally cover the source of her pain. In order to be free of the gloves, she must confront where the source of that pain comes from the death of her friend Ji Hwan.
Hope this helps. Happy drama watching.
Now what we don't know is what she knew about both boys liking Yeo Ri. Min Hwan being the oldest should have had first shot at her. Since they were raised as twins, he should also have first shot at becoming CEO of the company. However, since he is adopted, he feels inferior to his brother as he is not a blood relative which in Asian cultures seems to be a big no-no when it comes to inheriting or anything else.
Also, we finally get a look into Min Hwan's thoughts about why he loves Yeo Ri. I don't find his love for her toxic. I think the two are kindred spirits. Both have a fatal flaw that could ruin their chances of running their respective companies. The fact that both of them have successfully run their business up to this point proves that having a fatal flaw like being adopted or seeing ghosts should not be held against them. Also, both of them have put on a protective shell especially after the death of Ji Hwan. I think Min Hwan is haunted by ghosts as well, especially Ji Hwan's. You can see that he tried to catch Ji Hwan when he went overboard, and I don't blame him for not jumping overboard to help his brother as he could have died as well from hitting head on the rock the boat hit. He does seem to feel guilty about the death his brother.
So while other people are hating on Min Hwan, I see him as a victim of circumstances out of his control. Also, he hasn't physically or mentally tried to hurt Yeo Ri. Presently, he is buying up stock in Reina and appears to be taking her out that way, but we shall see.
Happy drama watching.
Also, just because there is an event in the pool area, doesn't mean that the pool closes down for a party. Other guests are still able to use the pool as well as the people who are networking. It makes sense that the memories come back to her when she is around people, water, and Min Hwan.
Finally, after the month is over Yeo Ri tells Prosecutor Ma that she feels they shouldn't see each other again. It is not because of the ghosts. It is because she has built a protective shell around herself, and she is feeling guilty that she caused him to see ghosts. This is why he keeps reassuring her that it is okay that he has seen the ghosts as it helps him understand what she is going through and can help her. Slowly but surely he has chiseled away at her protective shell. Even though he is a scaredy cat, he has the guts to look past the ghosts and really see Yeo Ri for who she is.
Hope this helps. Happy drama watching.