That was very interesting and comprehensive! Wouldn’t she see Singaporean ghosts? 🤔(Maybe I’m reaching?…
If given time, the local ghosts would find her. However, the writer switched what kind of ghost Yeo Ri would be chasing. Han Se-in acts like a ghost. In episode 9, she disappears after refusing to help Yeo Ri. Prosecutor Ma and Yeo Ri do more research and understand why Han Se-in acts that way. In the end, she is brought peace and comfort.
The Ghosts. 10 episodes, 10 specific ghosts (not counting the melange in the hospital). 8 are victims and Yeo-ri/Gang-uk…
Thanks for this. Here is a list of figurative ghosts: 1) Yeo Ri 2) Min Hwan 3) Seina wedding venue 4) Ko Pil Dong's wife 5) Prosecutor Ma 6) Prosecutor Im 7) Han Se-In father's building 8) Han Se-In
Ghostly images: just a few The fish in Yeo Ri's aquarium the bats in the credits Yeo Ri's face above the hotel lobby (episode 1) split screen of Yeo Ri and Min Hwan walking into the letter event the grim reaper looking guy at the Do Won art center the older gentlemen dressed in white and black hats who don't speak Yeo Ri's ghost dress
It is honestly due to poor writing. It seems they are unable to balance the plot with the chaebol drama, romance…
Viewers who say the writing is poor and the ghosts have disappeared are only looking at one definition of the word ghost, a spirit of the dead. In the first 20 minutes of the drama, the writer clearly illustrates that he will be using everything related to spooky: ghosts (literal and figurative), superstitions, symbols (Korean and Malay), idioms, and even the very definition of ghost. It isn't just the spirit of the dead. But the main thing is what is spooky about love.
Some examples: Min Hwan goes to the United States and returns to Korea. He hasn't spoken to Yeo Ri in all that time (he ghosted her). Assistant Prosecutor Pil Dong talks about his wife all the time with PM and the other prosecutor. Do you realize we have never seen her (she is a living ghost). Yeo Ri is described as a water ghost (the elevator scene with the ex-fiance) and also she lives like a ghost. The lions in the room at the CL hotel in lion in Korean (saja) is a homonym for the grim reaper, but it also means to ward off bad luck and protection. Unfortunately, I don't know Korean, so I'm sure there are probably many more that I am missing. I am only basing this on the English translation and my own research. The drama is full of these little easter eggs.
Episode 10 is packed with ghost images. Viewers just need to look beneath the surface to spot them. And Yeo Ri did use a ghost to her advantage. You just didn't see that person as a ghost as she is a living ghost, Han Se-in.
The most important theme of this drama is don't judge a book by its cover. Look beneath the surface. If Prosecutor Ma had let his judgement of drunk Yeo Ri remain as his image of her, then we wouldn't have the beautiful love we are getting.
Yes, it was most likely an advertisement for Singapore as the setting of that episode's ghost story could have…
I understand, but isn't the reason for a couple's trip in a romcom for them to get to know each other, relax, and spend time together. Yeo Ri and Prosecutor Ma have been working so hard. They need some fun. Also, it is a big trope in romcoms that the couple go shopping together. Could they have done this anywhere, sure. Well, why not Singapore?
For me, it was a great way to see the couple as a couple and not as CEO Yeo Ri and Prosecutor Ma. They need time to be a couple as this is a romcom. Also, it is the calm before the storm. jmo
Yes, it was most likely an advertisement for Singapore as the setting of that episode's ghost story could have…
If you want a shorter version of this drama with less advertisements, you should watch the kmovie it is based on Spellbound. The drama's writer did an excellent job of transferring the themes, spirit, and plot of movie to the drama.
Just curious, why does it matter or bother you that this episode happened in Singapore? In most kdrama romcoms the couple always take a trip together. Any place they go, the place would be like a free advisement. Movies and TV shows do it all the time. At least in this drama, like the tropes, they turned them into something meaningful rather than just product placement. jmo
I totally agree. A ghost mystery every 1-2 episodes to solve. That's what i was looking for. With a slowly growing…
You do realize this is a romcom right? This is not a detective style story. Its main focus is the slow burn, splash of horror, romance of the couple. If you want a detective style drama watch Park Eun Bin in Ghost Detective.
Also, this drama, while a stand alone drama, is based on the kmovie Spellbound. Spellbound is not a detective style movie, it is a horror romcom. The writer has done an excellent job of keeping the themes, spirit, and essence of the movie while making it his own.
Hi everyone. I agree with everything you’ve said about the lack of appeal in the recent episodes; they no longer…
Yes, it was most likely an advertisement for Singapore as the setting of that episode's ghost story could have taken place anywhere there is Malay culture. I say this because the hotel where they stay, their motif is that of owls. Owls in traditional Malay culture are harbingers of death, bad luck, and disasters. Stuffed owls are seen in both Yeo Ri and Min Hwan's rooms. Once Prosecutor Ma arrives, when the two are walking down the hall, you see a stain glass window of an owl. In modern Malay culture owls mean good fortune and wisdom. All three of our main characters represent both these meanings. The writers made sure to include the ghostly symbolism while they are abroad.
Now, I disagree with viewers who claim that the story has lost its way in these episodes and the ghosts have disappeared. This drama is like a magic show. Viewers who only look at the surface or the completed illusion, don't see what creates that illusion. This concept applies to episodes 9 & 10. The episodes contain the most important ghosts of all: Min Hwan, Yeo Ri, Prosecutor Ma, Ji Hwan, and Han Se-In.
Up to this point, Yeo Ri has been living and working as a ghost. She is a ghost CEO. Because of Prosecutor Ma's charming and persistent personality, her image and life are changing. As they become closer, they learn more about her condition (something she never explored with ex-fiance). Because of this, she becomes more comfortable with her body and in her own skin. By the end of episode 10, she finally eats with her employees (another advertisement). She meets with shareholders in person and even reaches out to them on the phone. Something she has never done before. This episode shows Yeo Ri's growth of being a ghost into a living breathing human being.
Also in the corporate world, the voting in the board meeting is very significant. It shows that she does not have a strong hold on the company. At the meeting, she only received the most votes, not the majority. The deciding factor was Han Se-in who voted by proxy. She is a ghost voter. They only got her vote because they researched/investigated her issue a little deeper and discovered the reason why she needed the money immediately. The building her dead father built will be demolished and his ghost will disappear. It is in this episode, we find out Yeo Ri's vision for the future of Reina and Siena, and she wants to share this vision with like minded people.
So to answer your questions, yes, the Singapore trip is an advertisement, but episode 10 needed to happen to advance the plot as it is now time to deal with the main ghosts: Min Hwan and Ji Hwan our twin ghosts.
Hope this makes sense and helps. Happy drama watching.
There have been ghosts in every episode. You just have to look for them.
In this drama, viewers only see the literal ghosts and think that is the only definition of the word ghost. However, the writer of this drama plays on the other definitions of ghost, spooky, and love and what is spooky about them. For example, in Korean culture, Yeo Ri is considered a water ghost (Ha Ri says this about Yeo Ri). A water ghost's behavior is to drag someone down and drown them as they are lonely. Yeo Ri is lonely, and her reputation and image are bringing down the stock prices of the company. She is figuratively a water ghost. Yeo Ri even describes herself as a living ghost. In Singapore, both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri's room have stuffed owls in them. In traditional Malay culture, owls are harbingers of death, bad luck, and disasters. In modern times it means good fortune and wisdom. So each episode has a ghost, you just have to think about how the writers are using the word ghost in each episode. Ghosts aren't just actual ghost. They can be living, breathing people.
The same with the word spooky. Most people consider ghosts scary. Yeo Ri has made friends with the ghosts. So what is spooky for one person may not be spooky to another. Superstitions are spooky. Will a four leaf clover really bring you good luck? Will walking under a ladder or breaking mirror cause you seven years of bad luck. Think about spooky in the terms of love (jealousy, obsession, the fear of being rejected). This is an incredibly well written drama.
By the way, episode 10 had numerous ghosts. It just didn't have what most people consider ghosts.
The significance of the pendant has already been stated. Because Ji Hwan was a miracle baby, his grandmother had…
I agree. Having the pendant be the answer to all their problems would be too easy of a solution. In the movie, Yeo Ri gives the necklace back to its rightful owner, the girl who died instead of Yeo Ri. Yeo Ri still sees her friend's ghost, but it doesn't attack her anymore because it got what it wanted.
Now, Ji Hwan has never attacked her. He has only protected her first from the ex-fiance and then from the golfer guy. I am curious how they will bring Ji Hwan back into Yeo Ri's life. He may be gone since Prosecutor Ma has his heart and has taken over protecting Yeo Ri. But something tells me Ji Hwan needs to protect Yeo Ri from Min Hwan.
Overall, I am enjoying the show, although, like many people here, I am finding the cliché fest a little bit too…
The significance of the pendant has already been stated. Because Ji Hwan was a miracle baby, his grandmother had it made and blessed by a shaman to protect him from death/ghosts. Ji Hwan doesn't believe in this silly superstition and proceeds to give to Yeo Ri as a gift because he wants her to be his girlfriend. He was going to give her matching rings, but Min Hwan told him that would be too much because this would be Ji Hwan and Yeo Ri's first date.
After Ji Hwan puts the necklace on Yeo Ri (under the guise of saying it would look prettier on her), the boat hits a rock. After the yacht hits a rock one more time, Ji Hwan goes overboard while Min Hwan tries to catch him and fails. Meanwhile, we are not sure how, but Yeo Ri also goes overboard. She lives but Ji Hwan doesn't. Ji Hwan's heart is given to Prosecutor Ma who has had a weak heart since birth. In a sense PM was a ghost until Ji Hwan's heart came in. So everyone of our main characters is/has essentially been a ghost.
At the scene, the necklace slides off Yeo Ri and Min Hwan picks it up saying he is family. So it seems that the only way Yeo Ri can stop seeing ghosts is by getting the necklace back and wearing it. jmo
my one wish for next week's episodes besides them solving the conflict is too see kangwook and yeori in the tent…
In the movie, the couple do have sex in the tent. There is also talk of five different types of kissing. So far I have only seen the hamburger style and one other one can't remember the name of it though.
The couple does have sex in the movie, and there is also talk of five different types of kissing. I was hoping…
This drama is based on a kmovie called Spellbound. You can watch it on Tubi or Kisskh. The drama has done a superb job of transferring the themes, spirit, and plot to the drama.
The corporate politics have completely dominated the series and it isn't even about ghosts anymore. I'm not feeling…
That's because the corporate politics is very relevant to the theme of the drama, ghosts in every sense of the word. From the beginning of the drama, Yeo Ri has been described as a living ghost. In her isolated mansion, she lives with ghosts (both literally and figuratively). Her only friends are ghosts. She only invites ghosts to her home. Everything is delivered to her.
At her work, no one knows what she looks like as she doesn't interact with her employees (except her secretary and Mr. Bong), and even they stay at least five feet away from her. There are rumors that she sees ghosts. Ha Ri describes her as a water ghost which makes sense she almost drowned. A water ghost is someone who will drag someone down. Yeo Ri's reputation and image are dragging the company image down. The Siena wedding venue, which was built by her dad for her mom, is literally a ghost building because of her failed marriage attempt. She is essentially a ghost CEO. We all know why she doesn't, but her staff don't know why. They have come to accept it.
In episodes 9 & 10, this image of her is being called into question. There is some very telling dialogue between her and Mr. Bong when it comes to the shareholders. He says something something like, "We will do all the calling, like we always do." Meaning Yeo Ri doesn't even interact with the shareholders of her own company. Yeo Ri says back to him, "No, I have to do it now as well. My position relies upon it". Meaning, I have to stop being a ghost CEO. She didn't win by that much which means 49 % of shareholders still see her as a ghost CEO.
This is why the Singapore trip was important to the story, and essentially was a ghost story. Han Se-In, who holds 3% of the deciding shares, is a living ghost. At first it looked like Min Hwan was going to win her shares as she needed the money immediately. After researching her predicament, Yeo Ri comes up with a solution. Something that has to do with a 45 year old building built by her dead dad. Her memories and her father's ghost are a part of that building. In the end, Han Se-In votes by proxy for Yeo Ri. Proxy means someone has permission to vote your way without you being there. The voter is a ghost.
Also, I won't go into much detail, but Min Hwan is also a ghost to his family, Yeo Ri, and at work. He returned to Korea to ask Yeo Ri if she would merge Reina and CL hotels together. She turned him down. She also turned down his proposal of marriage several times. He is also the ghost behind all of troubles in the corporate politics.
There are also numerous easter eggs that hint at ghosts during the Singapore trip, in particular. The motif of the hotel where all three of them stay is an owl. In traditional Malay culture. Owls are harbingers of death, disaster, and bad luck. In modern times, they mean good fortune and wisdom. All three of our main characters fit these cultural definition of owls.
Just because there was a breakup in an old movie, doesn’t mean it was worth keeping a tired trope in the drama.…
It's okay that you and others haven't watched the movie. I am getting added enjoyment from the drama because I have seen the movie. The drama screenwriters did an excellent job of capturing the spirit and essence of the movie, but made it their own story.
This drama is named Spooky in Love. It plays on every definition of the word ghost and spooky: everything from literal ghosts to figurative ones, superstitions, and old buildings, but also loving someone, fear of rejection, and losing what you love. The drama is very creative and well written.
These last two episodes were quite creative in their definition of the word ghost as Min Hwan and Yeo Ri are both ghosts socially and in the business world. You could even say that Prosecutor Ma was and is a ghost because of his heart. The Singapore hotel's motif was an owl. In traditional Malay culture owls are harbingers of death, bad luck, and disasters. These characteristics fit both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri to a T. In modern culture owls mean good fortune and wisdom. Which also fit Min Hwan and Yeo Ri. If their two hotels merged it would bring both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri good fortune.
Now, you had a question about why Yeo Ri would break up with PM now and ruin the image of Seina. Min Hwan explained it. If they can get people to lose faith in Reina stock they will sell it and Min Hwan and Yeo Ri can buy it up. Both want to protect Reina because it is highest grossing hotel in Korea. Min Hwan would be a fool to destroy it. All he wants is to merge his hotel with Yeo Ri's and become the largest hotel market in Korea. This would make his family probably trillions of dollars. All Min Hwan has ever wanted was for Yeo Ri to acknowledge him and be on his side. What would be so terrible if the two hotels merged?
Since the stocks are going to plummet anyway due to her association with art fraud case, let's just kill two birds with one stone. We know the stock will plummet if the broken engagement comes out. It will uphold the image that Siena is cursed. Now, that Min Hwan has made his move. Yeo Ri and PM can make theirs. Why have two separate times for the stock to plummet when you can make it just once?
Hope this helps. I don't care if people haven't seen the movie. Everything is explained in the drama. Viewers just need think. Happy drama watching. Again, thank you for the discussion.
1) Yeo Ri
2) Min Hwan
3) Seina wedding venue
4) Ko Pil Dong's wife
5) Prosecutor Ma
6) Prosecutor Im
7) Han Se-In father's building
8) Han Se-In
Ghostly images: just a few
The fish in Yeo Ri's aquarium
the bats in the credits
Yeo Ri's face above the hotel lobby (episode 1)
split screen of Yeo Ri and Min Hwan walking into the letter event
the grim reaper looking guy at the Do Won art center
the older gentlemen dressed in white and black hats who don't speak
Yeo Ri's ghost dress
Some examples: Min Hwan goes to the United States and returns to Korea. He hasn't spoken to Yeo Ri in all that time (he ghosted her). Assistant Prosecutor Pil Dong talks about his wife all the time with PM and the other prosecutor. Do you realize we have never seen her (she is a living ghost). Yeo Ri is described as a water ghost (the elevator scene with the ex-fiance) and also she lives like a ghost. The lions in the room at the CL hotel in lion in Korean (saja) is a homonym for the grim reaper, but it also means to ward off bad luck and protection. Unfortunately, I don't know Korean, so I'm sure there are probably many more that I am missing. I am only basing this on the English translation and my own research. The drama is full of these little easter eggs.
Episode 10 is packed with ghost images. Viewers just need to look beneath the surface to spot them. And Yeo Ri did use a ghost to her advantage. You just didn't see that person as a ghost as she is a living ghost, Han Se-in.
The most important theme of this drama is don't judge a book by its cover. Look beneath the surface. If Prosecutor Ma had let his judgement of drunk Yeo Ri remain as his image of her, then we wouldn't have the beautiful love we are getting.
Hope this helps. Happy drama watching.
For me, it was a great way to see the couple as a couple and not as CEO Yeo Ri and Prosecutor Ma. They need time to be a couple as this is a romcom. Also, it is the calm before the storm. jmo
Just curious, why does it matter or bother you that this episode happened in Singapore? In most kdrama romcoms the couple always take a trip together. Any place they go, the place would be like a free advisement. Movies and TV shows do it all the time. At least in this drama, like the tropes, they turned them into something meaningful rather than just product placement. jmo
Happy drama watching.
Also, this drama, while a stand alone drama, is based on the kmovie Spellbound. Spellbound is not a detective style movie, it is a horror romcom. The writer has done an excellent job of keeping the themes, spirit, and essence of the movie while making it his own.
Now, I disagree with viewers who claim that the story has lost its way in these episodes and the ghosts have disappeared. This drama is like a magic show. Viewers who only look at the surface or the completed illusion, don't see what creates that illusion. This concept applies to episodes 9 & 10. The episodes contain the most important ghosts of all: Min Hwan, Yeo Ri, Prosecutor Ma, Ji Hwan, and Han Se-In.
Up to this point, Yeo Ri has been living and working as a ghost. She is a ghost CEO. Because of Prosecutor Ma's charming and persistent personality, her image and life are changing. As they become closer, they learn more about her condition (something she never explored with ex-fiance). Because of this, she becomes more comfortable with her body and in her own skin. By the end of episode 10, she finally eats with her employees (another advertisement). She meets with shareholders in person and even reaches out to them on the phone. Something she has never done before. This episode shows Yeo Ri's growth of being a ghost into a living breathing human being.
Also in the corporate world, the voting in the board meeting is very significant. It shows that she does not have a strong hold on the company. At the meeting, she only received the most votes, not the majority. The deciding factor was Han Se-in who voted by proxy. She is a ghost voter. They only got her vote because they researched/investigated her issue a little deeper and discovered the reason why she needed the money immediately. The building her dead father built will be demolished and his ghost will disappear. It is in this episode, we find out Yeo Ri's vision for the future of Reina and Siena, and she wants to share this vision with like minded people.
So to answer your questions, yes, the Singapore trip is an advertisement, but episode 10 needed to happen to advance the plot as it is now time to deal with the main ghosts: Min Hwan and Ji Hwan our twin ghosts.
Hope this makes sense and helps. Happy drama watching.
The same with the word spooky. Most people consider ghosts scary. Yeo Ri has made friends with the ghosts. So what is spooky for one person may not be spooky to another. Superstitions are spooky. Will a four leaf clover really bring you good luck? Will walking under a ladder or breaking mirror cause you seven years of bad luck. Think about spooky in the terms of love (jealousy, obsession, the fear of being rejected). This is an incredibly well written drama.
By the way, episode 10 had numerous ghosts. It just didn't have what most people consider ghosts.
Happy drama watching.
Now, Ji Hwan has never attacked her. He has only protected her first from the ex-fiance and then from the golfer guy. I am curious how they will bring Ji Hwan back into Yeo Ri's life. He may be gone since Prosecutor Ma has his heart and has taken over protecting Yeo Ri. But something tells me Ji Hwan needs to protect Yeo Ri from Min Hwan.
After Ji Hwan puts the necklace on Yeo Ri (under the guise of saying it would look prettier on her), the boat hits a rock. After the yacht hits a rock one more time, Ji Hwan goes overboard while Min Hwan tries to catch him and fails. Meanwhile, we are not sure how, but Yeo Ri also goes overboard. She lives but Ji Hwan doesn't. Ji Hwan's heart is given to Prosecutor Ma who has had a weak heart since birth. In a sense PM was a ghost until Ji Hwan's heart came in. So everyone of our main characters is/has essentially been a ghost.
At the scene, the necklace slides off Yeo Ri and Min Hwan picks it up saying he is family. So it seems that the only way Yeo Ri can stop seeing ghosts is by getting the necklace back and wearing it. jmo
Happy drama watching.
At her work, no one knows what she looks like as she doesn't interact with her employees (except her secretary and Mr. Bong), and even they stay at least five feet away from her. There are rumors that she sees ghosts. Ha Ri describes her as a water ghost which makes sense she almost drowned. A water ghost is someone who will drag someone down. Yeo Ri's reputation and image are dragging the company image down. The Siena wedding venue, which was built by her dad for her mom, is literally a ghost building because of her failed marriage attempt. She is essentially a ghost CEO. We all know why she doesn't, but her staff don't know why. They have come to accept it.
In episodes 9 & 10, this image of her is being called into question. There is some very telling dialogue between her and Mr. Bong when it comes to the shareholders. He says something something like, "We will do all the calling, like we always do." Meaning Yeo Ri doesn't even interact with the shareholders of her own company. Yeo Ri says back to him, "No, I have to do it now as well. My position relies upon it". Meaning, I have to stop being a ghost CEO. She didn't win by that much which means 49 % of shareholders still see her as a ghost CEO.
This is why the Singapore trip was important to the story, and essentially was a ghost story. Han Se-In, who holds 3% of the deciding shares, is a living ghost. At first it looked like Min Hwan was going to win her shares as she needed the money immediately. After researching her predicament, Yeo Ri comes up with a solution. Something that has to do with a 45 year old building built by her dead dad. Her memories and her father's ghost are a part of that building. In the end, Han Se-In votes by proxy for Yeo Ri. Proxy means someone has permission to vote your way without you being there. The voter is a ghost.
Also, I won't go into much detail, but Min Hwan is also a ghost to his family, Yeo Ri, and at work. He returned to Korea to ask Yeo Ri if she would merge Reina and CL hotels together. She turned him down. She also turned down his proposal of marriage several times. He is also the ghost behind all of troubles in the corporate politics.
There are also numerous easter eggs that hint at ghosts during the Singapore trip, in particular. The motif of the hotel where all three of them stay is an owl. In traditional Malay culture. Owls are harbingers of death, disaster, and bad luck. In modern times, they mean good fortune and wisdom. All three of our main characters fit these cultural definition of owls.
Hope this helps and thank you.
Happy drama watching.
This drama is named Spooky in Love. It plays on every definition of the word ghost and spooky: everything from literal ghosts to figurative ones, superstitions, and old buildings, but also loving someone, fear of rejection, and losing what you love. The drama is very creative and well written.
These last two episodes were quite creative in their definition of the word ghost as Min Hwan and Yeo Ri are both ghosts socially and in the business world. You could even say that Prosecutor Ma was and is a ghost because of his heart. The Singapore hotel's motif was an owl. In traditional Malay culture owls are harbingers of death, bad luck, and disasters. These characteristics fit both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri to a T. In modern culture owls mean good fortune and wisdom. Which also fit Min Hwan and Yeo Ri. If their two hotels merged it would bring both Min Hwan and Yeo Ri good fortune.
Now, you had a question about why Yeo Ri would break up with PM now and ruin the image of Seina. Min Hwan explained it. If they can get people to lose faith in Reina stock they will sell it and Min Hwan and Yeo Ri can buy it up. Both want to protect Reina because it is highest grossing hotel in Korea. Min Hwan would be a fool to destroy it. All he wants is to merge his hotel with Yeo Ri's and become the largest hotel market in Korea. This would make his family probably trillions of dollars. All Min Hwan has ever wanted was for Yeo Ri to acknowledge him and be on his side. What would be so terrible if the two hotels merged?
Since the stocks are going to plummet anyway due to her association with art fraud case, let's just kill two birds with one stone. We know the stock will plummet if the broken engagement comes out. It will uphold the image that Siena is cursed. Now, that Min Hwan has made his move. Yeo Ri and PM can make theirs. Why have two separate times for the stock to plummet when you can make it just once?
Hope this helps. I don't care if people haven't seen the movie. Everything is explained in the drama. Viewers just need think. Happy drama watching. Again, thank you for the discussion.