I think it was Ichiro's girlfriend, her eyes were turning psychotic when he left her
Its truly a mystery but thats what I love about this movie. Its unpredictable but in a way that makes a lot of sense if you actually pay attention to the characters and the dialogue.
I think it was Ichiro's girlfriend, her eyes were turning psychotic when he left her
It might have also been the model girl. idk if she meant sorry for killing them or sorry for showing them to Haruna when she apologizes while comforting her. But she does say "it must be kittens" like she genuinely has no idea so maybe she did not?
Same lol. As a full-time writer I'm ALL for creative freedom, but NOT when it's essentially far-right propaganda…
Like no one is saying you can’t have a different political opinion but taking something that actually happened and revising it to your liking because “creative freedom” is not okay. Especially not one where the government tortured and killed innocent people and not when the same people who were in charge of that government is denying their actions.
Same lol. As a full-time writer I'm ALL for creative freedom, but NOT when it's essentially far-right propaganda…
I- You do know that having a different political idea is okay but distorting history is not? That’s what people are saying. This drama is spreading propaganda by changing the details of an event that actually happened. Drama like CLOY and King 2 Hearts that portrayed NK people as kind or promoted the unification of the two Koreas were not met with backlash even tho most people would not agree. Why? Because they weren’t taking historical facts and changing them to fit a political narrative. That is called propaganda which Northt Korea is infamous for.
Sure. First you watch the full show to understand the real picture and then you criticize it if you have to. That's…
if you crack open any history book about South Korea, you can read about their democratic movement. literally search South Korea democratic movement and you can read information from several different sources that isnt twitter and tumblr. you dont have to be majoring in east asian studies to know basic history. families of the victims, those who lived through the time period has even come out saying this drama is inaccurately portraying the events. it is a documented history that only happened 40 years ago, meaning there are plenty of people alive who can confirm it. its not a conspiracy theory. you cant compare the two.
idk what youre getting out of defending this. but im honestly done if you cant read the other comments or, as a grown man, use google and find a reputable history resource to educate yourself. have a good day.
This is stupid 😑 I feel that people across the globe are getting intolerant. At least watch the show before…
"since the Govt agencies have allowed this to air despite a lot of delay then they must've read the script right?" I- the government cant "allow" things to air because south korea is a democracy. they could literally be mocking the president and the government still cannot ban it. the blue house simply released a statement saying " we cant do anything about it. JTBC is currently producing it." thats it and thats all.
These victims have a mouth. They can talk for themselves. They don't need useless SJWs to talk for them.
i never said it was a fact? like who are you arguing with? thats what people who support this drama knowing the production team and broadcasting company have alt-right connections seem TO ME. i cant believe i have to explain this in a comment section. but hey if they do, thats on them and their morals. like you have a huge b*ner for the law and i have no legal right to stop them from watching this drama. Im just providing the real reasoning behind why people are filing petitions because you and many others are missing the point. some people think its because koreans are out to get their idol, some think its a issue of censorship when the drama is literally airing. koreans are familiar with the tactics of the party that produced dictators. they had family who had to live under those dictators. they are simply concerned.
in the end, its your consumption of media. im not your mother. but dont yell the other side didnt provide any evidence behind their reasoning when you refuse to listen.
?? But Koreans aren’t being ashamed about it? That isn’t the issue. People are angry because this drama is…
there are no exaggerations. unlike others in this comment section who at least know what the main issue is and are attempting to offer different perspectives, you literally dont even get what people are angry about. just actually read the article next time? a friendly suggestion. it is my fault for unloading on someone who doesnt even know why people are filing a petition.
The fact this drama is being aired is proof that it isn’t being censored? The people are actually exercising…
sigh I- " first of all I'm not that familiar with the situation surrounding this drama"
if youre not familiar with the situation surrounding this drama or even the history behind the drama, why are you even commenting? you just wanted to be cool with your "sensitive snowflakes" comment? thought demeaning people's feelings with no basis made you a wise, sophisticated person?
The people filing the petition doesn't want the government to step in like some authoritarian regime and cancel it. they are asking the production team and JTBC to not distort the truth and think twice about how to correctly portray the founding of their young democracy. they were more than peaceful and actually trusted the production team when they said they will correctly portrayed it last time only to get blindsided. This is completely different from the Joseon Exorcist situation which you would know if you actually bothered to learn about the situation before commenting? I just- why? what do you get out of butting into an issue you dont know and generalizing the reasoning behind every drama that gets a petition filed against it? you didnt even bother reading the comments others in this comment section posted about why people are angry? at this point im just copy and pasting what I already posted because you are just parroting the same thing over and over again.
the people who are against this had their parents and grandparents raped, tortured, and killed under an authoritarian regime and this drama is downplaying all of that. they dont have the right to say anything? i can understand if you were a blackpink fan or someone who genuinely enjoyed the drama without being aware of the history. its not everyone's duty to know every country's history. as long as they are willing to listen to people who have concerns, theyre fine. but you didnt even watch it. I- im done with the internet for today.
you do know anyone can edit wiki right? It's also not set during the June Struggle, it's like 3 weeks away from…
"Yoo Hyunmi. She's the main writer for Snowdrop. Also some additional information, her husband is/was a prosecutor during the 80s. Back then, (even now) most of the prosectors were among the "bad guys" since they accused and jailed innocent students as commies. I think back in 2009, she did an interview stating that those prosectors were actually good people and that she wanted to get rid of the negative image surrounding them. She also has personal connections with Yoon Seokyoul, a conservative candidate for an alt-right party in this upcoming election. Plus, JTBC is led by Joong-Ang Ilbo, a conservative chaebol media group. So, yeah, Snowdrop was clearly made with ulterior motives."
i never claimed it was going to change the election. it was just a reply to people claiming its just fiction and something that happened in the far past when it is still present in SK' current political climate. This drama being backed by Disney and Jisoo's influence makes it the first time MOST foreign audiences are being exposed to SK's history besides the Korean War. The truth of the matter is most people do not take the time out of their day to get educated about the real history behind the stuff they consume unless it is spoonfed to them in an entertaining fashion or are universally known (9/11, World Wars). Koreans just want their history represented to audiences accurately. and the people who are defending this by claiming its not a big deal are just proving my point. some fans are even going as far as to attack the families of the victims.
the fact JTBC had the opportunity to change things after the first petition but chose to not do so shows you how much they care. you can see from just the first two episodes. and no, it asnt just "A North Korean spy within breathing distance of the democracy movement." He was bought in by the FL and her activist friends into the university dorm. the FL literally defends him to say "he is a student." Do you know what this implies? that the poor naive student protesters during this period did not know there were NK spies among them. this is the excuse the NSA used to torture, rape, and kill people. the fact it is being praised by the right wingers are proof it is supporting their ideology. they have a whole discussion about it. I did watch the drama. im not baselessly spreading hate. neither are others protesting it. you can watch it if you want. i understand it doesnt affect you. BUT it doesnt change the reality you're supporting right wing propaganda. I dont know what else to say. have a good day.
You do know that there are right wingers in Korea? Like the director could be a part of korea’s Conservative…
Yoo Hyunmi. She's the main writer for Snowdrop. Also some additional information, her husband is/was a prosecutor during the 80s. Back then, (even now) most of the prosectors were among the "bad guys" since they accused and jailed innocent students as commies. I think back in 2009, she did an interview stating that those prosectors were actually good people and that she wanted to get rid of the negative image surrounding them. She also has personal connections with Yoon Seokyoul, a conservative candidate for an alt-right party in this upcoming election. Plus, JTBC is led by Joong-Ang Ilbo, a conservative chaebol media group. So, yeah, Snowdrop was clearly made with ulterior motives.
and please. dont come with me with the bs freedom of expression. no one is being censored. the fact this drama is currently airing AFTER people already filed a petition the first time around is literally opposite of what censorship is. filing a petition is a freedom of expression btw. yes. the director has all the rights under democracy to make what he wants but that doesn't mean others cant say what they think about his work. it isnt a charity where anyone who makes something gets an award. if he is going to touch on topic as sensitive as the founding of a nation's democracy that happened only 40 years ago then he should be willing to take the criticism. and he cant expect people to take his word for it after straight up lying about there being no historical inaccuracies only for the first 2 eps to be full of them. yes, i watched it. its a genuinely well done drama that would have had no problems if they didnt base it on events they were ill prepared to accurately portray.
the people who are against this had their parents and grandparents raped, tortured, and killed under an authoritarian regime and this drama is downplaying all of that. they dont have the right to say anything because the world revolves around your idol? lastly, if you know nothing about the south korean government and politics which is what this drama is about, then just stay in your own lane? no one is stopping you from watching it, just dont invalidate people who have genuine concerns as a bunch of haters out to get your idol.
Same lol. As a full-time writer I'm ALL for creative freedom, but NOT when it's essentially far-right propaganda…
not everyone is obligated to be signing petitions? also, did you consider the fact that this drama is supporting right wing propaganda and its supporters want it to air? a lot of young koreans are voting for the conservative party. specifically young men who feel threatened by women's rights. this drama is spreading the ideology of an alt-right group that is against women's and LGBTQ rights. but whatever helps you sleep at night.
It is sad a drama coukd be cancelled because it is against the "official" history.
"Also, Yoo Hyunmi. She's the main writer for Snowdrop. Also some additional information, her husband is/was a prosecutor during the 80s. Back then, (even now) most of the prosectors were among the "bad guys" since they accused and jailed innocent students as commies. I think back in 2009, she did an interview stating that those prosectors were actually good people and that she wanted to get rid of the negative image surrounding them. She also has personal connections with Yoon Seokyoul, a conservative candidate for an alt-right party in this upcoming election. Plus, JTBC is led by Joong-Ang Ilbo, a conservative chaebol media group. So, yeah, Snowdrop was clearly made with ulterior motives."
Sure. First you watch the full show to understand the real picture and then you criticize it if you have to. That's…
it is if you actually get educated about the history and listen to Koreans. this isnt the first petition against this drama. people actually gave it a chance after JTBC said exactly what you are saying to watch the drama first. people have watched and found it distorted history. thats all.
Praying people don't cancel him , his dramas are so good to watch .
thats like an actor from Gen Z saying i was born in 2002 so i dont know what happened in 2001. even the actress for the FL was announcing how much she loves korean history and learning it only to act in this. another actress who play a NSA agent was reposting people praising her for looking cool as a glorified murderer. celebrities are truly tone deaf i swear.
Basically some people involved are still alive and their feelings may get hurt if history is distorted, for sageuks…
"Also, Yoo Hyunmi. She's the main writer for Snowdrop. Also some additional information, her husband is/was a prosecutor during the 80s. Back then, (even now) most of the prosectors were among the "bad guys" since they accused and jailed innocent students as commies. I think back in 2009, she did an interview stating that those prosectors were actually good people and that she wanted to get rid of the negative image surrounding them. She also has personal connections with Yoon Seokyoul, a conservative candidate for an alt-right party in this upcoming election. Plus, JTBC is led by Joong-Ang Ilbo, a conservative chaebol media group. So, yeah, Snowdrop was clearly made with ulterior motives."
not really. they just rebranded themselves as patriotic fellow who did what they had to for their country. currently their biggest supporters are men who feel threatened by women gaining some rights in the workplace.
This is stupid 😑 I feel that people across the globe are getting intolerant. At least watch the show before…
just quoting @Rubber Soul here. please read and think about the media you consume. thanks. as a side note, koreans did watch the show. thats what JTBC told them last time the blue house addressed it only to change nothing besides the female lead's name. they have the right to be angry.
"Also, Yoo Hyunmi. She's the main writer for Snowdrop. Also some additional information, her husband is/was a prosecutor during the 80s. Back then, (even now) most of the prosectors were among the "bad guys" since they accused and jailed innocent students as commies. I think back in 2009, she did an interview stating that those prosectors were actually good people and that she wanted to get rid of the negative image surrounding them. She also has personal connections with Yoon Seokyoul, a conservative candidate for an alt-right party in this upcoming election. Plus, JTBC is led by Joong-Ang Ilbo, a conservative chaebol media group. So, yeah, Snowdrop was clearly made with ulterior motives."
You do know that having a different political idea is okay but distorting history is not? That’s what people are saying. This drama is spreading propaganda by changing the details of an event that actually happened. Drama like CLOY and King 2 Hearts that portrayed NK people as kind or promoted the unification of the two Koreas were not met with backlash even tho most people would not agree. Why? Because they weren’t taking historical facts and changing them to fit a political narrative. That is called propaganda which Northt Korea is infamous for.
idk what youre getting out of defending this. but im honestly done if you cant read the other comments or, as a grown man, use google and find a reputable history resource to educate yourself. have a good day.
I-
the government cant "allow" things to air because south korea is a democracy. they could literally be mocking the president and the government still cannot ban it. the blue house simply released a statement saying " we cant do anything about it. JTBC is currently producing it." thats it and thats all.
like you can still watch it. just know i'll be judging you. not that its a big deal, im a nobody on the internet. dont invalidate other people's concerns though. the people who watched it did offer why they feel the first two eps were already very inaccurate. if you only bothered to read instead of acting like a law expert that is.
https://mobile.twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1473177121447383041
https://mobile.twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1473150283534716929
https://mobile.twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1473135605261701120
https://mobile.twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1472605314105380865
in the end, its your consumption of media. im not your mother. but dont yell the other side didnt provide any evidence behind their reasoning when you refuse to listen.
" first of all I'm not that familiar with the situation surrounding this drama"
if youre not familiar with the situation surrounding this drama or even the history behind the drama, why are you even commenting? you just wanted to be cool with your "sensitive snowflakes" comment? thought demeaning people's feelings with no basis made you a wise, sophisticated person?
The people filing the petition doesn't want the government to step in like some authoritarian regime and cancel it. they are asking the production team and JTBC to not distort the truth and think twice about how to correctly portray the founding of their young democracy. they were more than peaceful and actually trusted the production team when they said they will correctly portrayed it last time only to get blindsided. This is completely different from the Joseon Exorcist situation which you would know if you actually bothered to learn about the situation before commenting?
I just-
why? what do you get out of butting into an issue you dont know and generalizing the reasoning behind every drama that gets a petition filed against it? you didnt even bother reading the comments others in this comment section posted about why people are angry? at this point im just copy and pasting what I already posted because you are just parroting the same thing over and over again.
the people who are against this had their parents and grandparents raped, tortured, and killed under an authoritarian regime and this drama is downplaying all of that. they dont have the right to say anything? i can understand if you were a blackpink fan or someone who genuinely enjoyed the drama without being aware of the history. its not everyone's duty to know every country's history. as long as they are willing to listen to people who have concerns, theyre fine. but you didnt even watch it. I-
im done with the internet for today.
i never claimed it was going to change the election. it was just a reply to people claiming its just fiction and something that happened in the far past when it is still present in SK' current political climate. This drama being backed by Disney and Jisoo's influence makes it the first time MOST foreign audiences are being exposed to SK's history besides the Korean War. The truth of the matter is most people do not take the time out of their day to get educated about the real history behind the stuff they consume unless it is spoonfed to them in an entertaining fashion or are universally known (9/11, World Wars). Koreans just want their history represented to audiences accurately. and the people who are defending this by claiming its not a big deal are just proving my point. some fans are even going as far as to attack the families of the victims.
the fact JTBC had the opportunity to change things after the first petition but chose to not do so shows you how much they care. you can see from just the first two episodes. and no, it asnt just "A North Korean spy within breathing distance of the democracy movement." He was bought in by the FL and her activist friends into the university dorm. the FL literally defends him to say "he is a student." Do you know what this implies? that the poor naive student protesters during this period did not know there were NK spies among them. this is the excuse the NSA used to torture, rape, and kill people. the fact it is being praised by the right wingers are proof it is supporting their ideology. they have a whole discussion about it. I did watch the drama. im not baselessly spreading hate. neither are others protesting it. you can watch it if you want. i understand it doesnt affect you. BUT it doesnt change the reality you're supporting right wing propaganda. I dont know what else to say. have a good day.
and please. dont come with me with the bs freedom of expression. no one is being censored. the fact this drama is currently airing AFTER people already filed a petition the first time around is literally opposite of what censorship is. filing a petition is a freedom of expression btw. yes. the director has all the rights under democracy to make what he wants but that doesn't mean others cant say what they think about his work. it isnt a charity where anyone who makes something gets an award. if he is going to touch on topic as sensitive as the founding of a nation's democracy that happened only 40 years ago then he should be willing to take the criticism. and he cant expect people to take his word for it after straight up lying about there being no historical inaccuracies only for the first 2 eps to be full of them. yes, i watched it. its a genuinely well done drama that would have had no problems if they didnt base it on events they were ill prepared to accurately portray.
the people who are against this had their parents and grandparents raped, tortured, and killed under an authoritarian regime and this drama is downplaying all of that. they dont have the right to say anything because the world revolves around your idol?
lastly, if you know nothing about the south korean government and politics which is what this drama is about, then just stay in your own lane? no one is stopping you from watching it, just dont invalidate people who have genuine concerns as a bunch of haters out to get your idol.
"Also, Yoo Hyunmi. She's the main writer for Snowdrop. Also some additional information, her husband is/was a prosecutor during the 80s. Back then, (even now) most of the prosectors were among the "bad guys" since they accused and jailed innocent students as commies. I think back in 2009, she did an interview stating that those prosectors were actually good people and that she wanted to get rid of the negative image surrounding them. She also has personal connections with Yoon Seokyoul, a conservative candidate for an alt-right party in this upcoming election. Plus, JTBC is led by Joong-Ang Ilbo, a conservative chaebol media group. So, yeah, Snowdrop was clearly made with ulterior motives."