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Wait, just because a person has mental issues, they can’t have toxic relationships? WS is still toxic; it doesn’t matter what the reason is. And CC clung to WS for so many years because he didn’t even know why WS left so abruptly. He stayed stuck until WSW came along and unknowingly pulled him out of the quicksand.

After ep. 18, which was devastating (I did indeed drive to work with red eyes yesterday!), things can only get better from now on, right? I know we have WSW’s mom sadness to get through, but I really hope the miscommunication between CC and WSW will be resolved next week and they can be happy again. I was seriously ugly crying yesterday, so I need some hope here!

These last few episodes have been tough and whenever Wei Wei cries, so do I. 😢 The last scene of ep. 17, hough… ❤️ In the middle of all this miscommunication and heartbreak there is this peaceful bubble of Chi Cheng and his Wei Wei, so in love with each other it’s visible from space.

Yes, I did like it! Their relationship problems were all caused by external things and once those were all resolved they were perfect. I loved their domestic scenes at the end the best. 🙂

As much I loved them, though, I didn’t care about them half as much as I care about CC and WSW, so skipping this episode for now turned out to be an easier decision than I had originally thought!

I know it is, but I’ll just avoid watching the clips too. It’s different to know something is happening vs watching it happen. I’ll be back as soon as they reconcile.

I agree with this, but I like to wait until they’ve gotten back together before continuing to watch. That way the pain is rewarded with immediate happiness. I’m obviously not a fan of delayed gratification, I waited three weeks to pick up ThamePo again for just this reason and I never regretted it!

As much as I look forward to these new episodes every week, I’m skipping this one for now. I’m not okay watching characters I’ve come to love so deeply being in pain, even if it’s only temporary. And I don’t want to go to work with red eyes!

This happened to me with RL! I got hooked after seeing snippets from ep. 4, watched that episode and then started at the beginning. I’ve been obsessed ever since. Please send help… 😆

Good for you, that’s great. 🙂 I prefer RL, because WSW is a more relatable character than a bunch of rich guys at the top of the food chain. RL is messier and more chaotic (apparently I like that) - and it’s much funnier. Desire feels more sterile and less engaging. I’m still enjoying it, though.

This kept me engaged enough to keep watching every week, but the five years apart was totally unbelievable. My favorite character was the grandma because she was feisty and smart - and she watched them falling in love without interfering. I’ll probably never watch this again, but it was okay while it lasted.

I’m so glad we get two episodes each week. I’m not sure I’d survive only one per week! Then again, this series is moving so quickly. Only four more weeks left?!

I was thinking about this. Why does one feel okay and the other doesn’t when the motivation for love is supposedly better than the motivation for revenge? Well, it ‘s different when the other person knows they’re being played and manipulated even if they don’t know exactly why. It’s more like a game of cat and mouse with both participants in a tug of war. When the other person is completely blind the deception feels crueler because the deceptive person holds all the cards.

I’m a little surprised that no one here seems to be bothered by the trauma bonding. It’s so extremely manipulative! If someone did that to me and I found out about it, I’d be done. Hua Yong is diabolical. I know the justification is that the end justifies the means, but this feels like too much.

Rewatching the first few episodes gives some interesting perspectives. For example, WSW saw a text message from YY and she called CC “hubby”. Fast forward to ep. 12. CC: “Call me hubby.” WSW: “No, I won’t.” Tell me those two things aren’t related! The director and everyone else really knew what they were doing.

Whatever happened to just enjoying what we’re given? Is this show perfect? No, but I can’t imagine trying to mess with other people’s vision of this project as they decided how to bring this story and these characters to life. We can be disappointed by a plot point or a character’s motivation, but that should never lead to real life harassment! I’m so disappointed in these so called “fans”.

Random thoughts at 4:23 a.m. (yes, I woke up with this show on my mind):

How much time has elapsed since WSW’s mom was diagnosed? I feel so sad, not only for WSW who doesn’t know the truth yet, but also for CC, who is encouraging WSW to spend time with her while he takes care of the hospital bill behind the scenes. This secret is weighing on CC so heavily and poor WSW can tell something is on CC’s mind, but he thinks it’s all about WS.

I also realized that WSW has never seen CC with Yue Yue, so he doesn’t know how disengaged and aloof CC is when he 100% doesn’t care about someone. Seeing CC drive off with WS gutted him, but he doesn’t realize that CC really couldn’t care less about WS anymore. At that moment it was just the path of least resistance to CC when he didn’t immediately kick WS out of the car. Indeed, when the hospital called, CChad no problem kicking out WS and his beloved snake (and of course, poor WSW never saw this, so if CC is gone for a long time to wrestle with his feelings about this awful situation with WSW’s mom, he’ll assume he and WS were together the entire time).

These miscommunications and misunderstandings are setting us up for more, because when CC finds out about WSW and Yue Yue, it’ll be the last straw. If they were a solid couple and happy together, it would only be a blip, but after everything else? Their relationship is already in trouble, so this revelation will break it, though only temporarily. And I won’t even get started on WS’s brother!

I’m a little scared, yes. Every indication points to a happily ever after ending, but we won’t know for sure until we get there. If it does go sideways at the end… No, I don’t even
want to think about it. Manifesting the ending we want and that our boys deserve!

I have to pick only one favorite episode? Impossible. I like too many episodes for different reasons. I love the humor in the earlier episodes and the passion in ep. 10 (office), 11 (confession), and 12 (getting that “certificate”!). I also love the sweetness in ep. 13 (underwater kiss and later the hug by the terrarium) and 14 (throwing the fireworks, CC kissing WSW’s smile, WSW initiating the next kiss). The acting is top notch; they both convey so much emotion without any words.

I’m going to rewatch earlier episodes while we wait for Monday again. Any show with 24 episodes has to have some drawn out angst to spice things up, but I’m not strong enough to want to watch our boys suffer like this more than once.

I agree with everything you wrote. I’ve seen this play out in real life three times now and it’s very difficult and tough on the survivors. With the exception of toxic relationships, someone who knows they’re dying should share this info with close family and friends. It’s a privilege and honor to be able to say goodbye. Sudden death removes that possibility at all and it’s devastating but not like the grief when you realize a loved deliberately kept their condition from you.