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Replying to kanak 6 days ago
Title Overdo
in the novel ren susu also die in the end, hope they will change ending in the show
Can you spoil the whole ending for me?
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On Overdo 7 days ago
Title Overdo
Im sorry but at this point with so much betrayal, this is just getting boring. Is the show following the novel? The writing and dialogues seem no better than those 10 min short dramas. Even with the star power of the leads, its getting redundant...
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On Agent Kim Reactivated 8 days ago
I bet that glasses scene towards the end was completely improvised, they were cracking themselves up genuinely. You could just tell!

Also, Kopiko strikes yet again...
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Replying to ElanneH 9 days ago
Genuinely love that most replies to anything that has to do with AiMi's age are: 1. well she acted romance with…
Do not waste your breath on them. They simply wont understand. What you are expressing as concern, they will take it as your being an anti-fan for AiMi or HMH.
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On Dating Alys Perez 11 days ago
Girl is toxic and keeps attracting toxic guys!

Also kids, if anyone asks you to PROVE you love them, leave! If they dont trust you enough today to believe what you tell them, they will not trust you later either.

Tripp could have just patiently told her that he appreciated her telling him what happened instead of keeping it a secret and if he was really angry, that anger should have been directed at Drake, not Alys. Also he is such an insecure person. He didnt have to throw a tantrum at her by breaking a freaking glass (today its a glass, tomorrow it could be you!) or asked her to prove her love. And that line about getting a pass for being an asshole because he treated her well for four years, typical "Nice Guy" behavior.
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On Road to Success 11 days ago
One of my biggest fear is you never know who you encounter in life might be a complete psychopath or stalker.
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Replying to Vikishen 11 days ago
Just find out that the director Gia Lee is Taiwanese and directed the BL series HISTORY, but also Hidden Love,…
No wonder there was LGBTQ undercurrents. I think she did it really well where it was never spelled out but was so clear. Good way to get around the censorship.
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Replying to OWS_403 11 days ago
A romance drama risking controversy by casting a minor against an adult after the male was casted (basically deceiving…
Hush, dont point out the obvious issues, the fans will come after you!
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Replying to Xiang83 11 days ago
I'm going to add this from a comment I made earlier, some of which are facts:1) Many countries have major issues…
Since critical thinking isn't your thing, I'll keep it short. Nobody censored you, being disagreed with is free speech, so crying "democracy" at pushback is the best self own this thread has produced. LMAO. When the selling point of a love story is everything it left out, the casting was the problem, and everyone involved knew it. Enjoy the episodes :)
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Replying to Xiang83 11 days ago
I'm going to add this from a comment I made earlier, some of which are facts:1) Many countries have major issues…
Oh, so you also prefer your Superman to actually fly? LMAO Acting solves authenticity everywhere else like adults play teens, strangers play lovers... yet this one role, romancing a grown man, uniquely required a real minor. Historical accuracy is a fine reason to write child marriage; it's a terrible reason to recreate its dynamics on set. See you later, dear friend :)
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Replying to SenpaiSuki 12 days ago
Since you asked how viewers are responding there's been a long debate in these comments, so here's the short version…
You make a very sensible point honestly and this is the discussion I was hoping for, instead of whatever's happening elsewhere in this comment section. You're right about causation: child acting itself isn't the cause, the surrounding environment is, and your list proves it. I'll take that correction.

But my objection was never just "a minor is acting" or even "a minor is in a romance drama." It's narrower: placing a minor in romantic scenes opposite an adult man specifically. If both leads were 16 or 17, this thread wouldn't exist and neither would my objection. The issue isn't the genre, it's the configuration.

And your own framework explains why. You said outcomes depend on sound environment and the care of the adults involved. Agreed, so consider what this scenario does to that environment: the power gap is at its steepest (age seniority, gender, fame), the material at its most sensitive, and the minor's ability to say "I'm uncomfortable" at its weakest, since objecting means disrupting an expensive production every adult has already approved. A kid creatively growing through acting describes a hundred roles; romantic intimacy with a grown man isn't part of a minor's natural growth. it's just simply what the script demands.

So my position is risk architecture, I am not prophesizing here. I'm not predicting harm BUT this production clearly sensed the issue itself, hence the not too much intimacy (kissing etc) directive. I'm saying aging up casting exists because the downside risk lands on the child while the upside lands on the production. And to your honest last paragraph, one asterisk I would add is that some scenarios shouldn't be reachable even by a supported, thriving child. This one sits near the top of that list and thats not because the child is fragile, but because no support structure neutralizes that imbalance that exists
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Replying to Xiang83 13 days ago
I'm going to add this from a comment I made earlier, some of which are facts:1) Many countries have major issues…
Guilty as charged! I refuted your points just fine; it's the copium keeping you from seeing it that I can't do anything about :)
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Replying to Xiang83 13 days ago
I'm going to add this from a comment I made earlier, some of which are facts:1) Many countries have major issues…
Interesting how some walls of text on this page end up making the critics' case for them. A few observations, for anyone actually reading closely:

"No kissing, no intimacy scenes" keeps being offered as reassurance. Funny thing about that is if casting a minor opposite an adult man were truly no big deal, there'd be nothing to reassure anyone about. The production clearly sensed something was off, they just chose to manage it rather than avoid it. Guardrails don't go up around roads nobody thinks are dangerous.

"China has stricter regulations" is a curious flex too, since regulations on minors in entertainment exist everywhere, precisely because leaving it to guardians never worked. Citing the safety framework as proof there's no problem, while insisting nobody may question what guardians approve, is certainly a choice.

The cultural projection theory is my favorite, though. Some of us raising concerns are Asian, and the examples given were also Asian (Kim Sae Ron and Zhao Lusi) not just Hollywood. Exploiting minors is not a Western concept requiring translation. Standards are standards, whatever continent you read them on.

The ratings argument #1 in ten countries! only measures enjoyment, not ethics. By that logic no successful production in history could ever be criticized, including the ones everyone now politely agrees were exploitative.

And the emergency recast explains how a minor got the role, not why it was right. Auditions were held. Aging up was on the table. "We were rushed" is a mitigating circumstance, not a defense.

For the record, since reading comprehension has been selective around here: nobody on the critical side that I've seen has attacked the two actors who by all accounts were consummate professionals. The scrutiny is for the adults who made the casting call. Though it's telling how badly some people need it to be about something else.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess 13 days ago
Maybe just stop watching romantic dramas about 16 year old girls and grown men. Bc if you are bothered by the…
@PeachBlossomGoddess "Limits on a minor's rights are set by their guardians" LMAO..... A century of child labor law worldwide, refuted by an angry comment! Quick lesson since you insist: the law limits guardians, examples are earnings protections, work hour caps, rules for sensitive scenes, in the US, Korea, and yes, China's own regulations on minors in entertainment. Because "the guardians decided" is how every country's industry produced its broke, burned out former child stars. Your trump card is literally the failure mode the laws were written for. You've spent three days citing the disease as the cure.

And here's the part that should actually worry you: even with the law watching the guardians, kids still get chewed up because the lawsuits and scandals I cited all happened under legal supervision. The safeguards are the floor, not the finish line. Your position isn't even "the floor is enough." It's "why is there a floor."

Lets do a scoreboard check, shall we? I've brought labor law, history, and lawsuits with names. You've brought "lame, hypocrite, vindictive, boring, "go cry." "

And this is your second farewell tour. Flounce out or don't, but pick one. I'll be in my lane: the one where a minor's workplace conditions are everyone's business. That's what makes them protections. The version where they're only YOUR business is called "no protections at all" but you've made it clear that's a feature for you, not a bug.
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Replying to Sssnoopyyy 13 days ago
Question for those who've been following this drama since the cast was announced, how are the general community/viewers…
Since you asked how viewers are responding there's been a long debate in these comments, so here's the short version of my position:

People keep conflating objections. Objecting to the story (a fictional age-gap romance), Objecting to the actors acting prowess and objecting to the casting (a real minor filming romantic scenes with an adult men) are different things. You can accept the first two and oppose the last since the latter one involves an actual minor in an actual workplace. That's why aging up casting exists.

The usual defense that "her parents and the production approved" just doesn't hold. Entertainment history is full of child actors exploited with their families' full endorsement; that's exactly why child protections are external rules, not family discretion. The adults vouching for her readiness have managed and profited from her career since she was about six. That's not endorsement but rather a conflict of interest. And noting that a minro's agency has limits isn't denying it; it's the same logic behind why minors can't sign contracts.

We've also run this experiment before. Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet (1968) cast actual teenagers (Olivia Hussey was 15) for "authenticity," with parental consent and studio approval, and it was a massive critical and commercial success. Decades later, both leads sued Paramount, describing what they were asked to do on that set as exploitation that caused lifelong damage. Brooke Shields has told a similar story about her teen roles. At the time, all those productions looked exactly like this one does now: consenting family, professional set, acclaimed result. The harm took years to surface which is precisely why "she seems fine and the show is great" proves nothing today. Same is the case with Zhao Lusi.

That's also why the popularity defense is the worst one: quality of output says nothing about ethics of process. If success greenlights the practice, the only safeguard left is "did the audience enjoy it?" Which is no safeguard.

Where I agree with you completely: none of this is on HMH or Ai Mi. HMH signed the contract when he didnt know the costar casting. They did their jobs brilliantly. The accountability sits with the adults who made the casting call of Ai Mi. Your conflicted feeling is honestly the right response , good drama, questionable decision behind it.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess 13 days ago
Maybe just stop watching romantic dramas about 16 year old girls and grown men. Bc if you are bothered by the…
@PeachBlossomGoddess Fascinating read of my argument where I criticize the adults profiting from a minor's labor, and you conclude I'm prejudiced against... the minor. The child actors are the ones I'm arguing for. The skepticism is reserved for parents and production companies with financial stakes in the permissions they keep granting. If being wary of people who profit from a child's labor is "prejudice," then every child labor law ever written is a hate crime.

And I love that acknowledging a 17 year old's agency has limits is now "denying free will." You should alert the legal systems of every country on Earth that they've been operating under this exact superiority complex for about a century. Minors can't sign their own contracts anywhere, and somehow it wasn't my biases that arranged that.

As for "presuming knowledge I don't have" I presumed nothing. I pointed at publicly documented facts and a textbook conflict of interest. Conflicts of interest don't require villains, just incentives, a concept that apparently reads as "nasty and unfounded" when it's inconvenient to you.

But yes, let's end here. You've called me lame, a hypocrite, embarrassing, prejudiced, and distasteful across this thread when all I have done is argued structure and evidence the whole way. I'm comfortable letting that contrast speak for itself.

Enjoy the rest of the drama. You've made it very clear that nothing and I mean nothing: not the age on her ID, not the incentives, not the industry's body count will be allowed to get between you and your viewing experience. That's not a defense of her agency. That's a defense of your entertainment.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess 13 days ago
Maybe just stop watching romantic dramas about 16 year old girls and grown men. Bc if you are bothered by the…
"Her parents endorsed it" doesn't help your case but actually it undermines it. Entertainment history is full of child actors exploited with their parents' full endorsement, often at their direction

And let's be clear about what "her parents' judgment" means here: Ai Mi has been acting professionally since she was about six years old. Her career wasn't something she chose, it was chosen for her, a decade before she could meaningfully consent to any of it. The people you're citing as the ultimate authority on her readiness are the same people who've been managing and profiting from her career since before she could read a contract. That's not a neutral endorsement but simply a conflict of interest.

I do respect her agency within what agency means at that age. A minor can be talented, professional, and willing, and it can still be wrong for adults to script her into romantic scenes with a grown man. Her "comfort" is shaped by an agency, a production company, and parents who all benefit from her saying yes. That's not free consent but pressure with paperwork.

If you follow your own logic then if the minor, the parents, and the company being comfortable settles the matter, then no child star scandal in history was valid to criticize because they all had exactly those sign offs. I don't need to "know better" than her family. I just need to notice that usually the people waiving the safeguards are the ones profiting from the waiver.
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Replying to MeiXian 13 days ago
Title Love for You
why watch a drama in romance genre if you’re antiromantic?
Movies and dramas often set the precedent for how love is expressed. To keep us fully immersed, they tend to portray heightened, exaggerated versions of emotion. When it comes to romance, many women who watch these shows come to expect men to woo them in similar ways, and if you think about it, that's not so different from nature, where male birds dance or build elaborate nests to attract a mate. In courtship, what she desires tends to set the standard. Over time, these on screen gestures become the mainstream vocabulary of romantic expression.

That said, the influence runs both ways: some people were expressing love like this long before it ever appeared on screen, and those real life gestures were likely the inspiration for such scenes in the first place.
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