but unfortunately people can be that way. One time they're violent and do terrible things, and later they're all…
Oh, yes, I agree. That's not what I was trying to say, let's see if I can be more coherent lol.
I was speaking more from the perspective of the writing/the story. His character is being used as comic relief while at the same time as horror inducing. Like..the music changes in the scene, it's tense, she screams, he gets grabby, stuff like that. So on the one hand, it's clear they wanted to show that moment as scary. But then they switch around and make him all goofy and bozo-ish and she's sighing and taking care of him. It doesn't make sense to me. Specifically, it doesn't make sense that she would stand for that when there's clearly no love lost there and she was genuinely scared a moment before.
LE: I just realized this, but it's also confusing for me, as a viewer, because I'm not sure how I'm supposed to react/understand Bad U Ju's character. Hate him whenever he's on screen or giggle at his antics.
I know Kdramas in general have this insidious habit of not letting a single "bad" character stay bad - always with the redemption arcs or forgiveness - and so they probably can't afford to make him a total villain, but for me that's such a swing and a miss. Sometimes, people are just shite and it's okay to portray characters like that.
P.S. : Speaking of Kdramas and their penchant for forgiving the unforgivable, I'm pretty sure I watched a drama where the main "villainess" gets forgiven with a 'water under the bridge' comment for basically manslaughter, lol.
If I've got a pet peeve it's turning horrible characters into comedic relief without acknowledging their horribleness and let me tell ya, the scene where her ex grabs her and when he bolts towards her door to break into her home was veering towards horror for me.
And then she's feeding him in the hospital and it's played for laughs, our leads have to deal with the "bozo" and they roll their eyes and it's all fun. But man, if you want an obsessed, borderline violent character, let's acknowledge that he's that, not just "funny because soo annoying".
pre-f*cking-cisely ....😅🤣 i'm sorry but can't she just grow on him naturally? no instead he suddenly changes…
Spot on. But let's say a collective thank you that the premise doesn't allow them to go for the second cliche which is they fell madly, desperately in love when they were like..11 and have been pure and celibate since then lol.
I swear, these Kdramas make me wonder if I had an unusual childhood, because honestly, I barely remember what I did last week — I couldn’t tell you a thing about some kid I met 20 years ago - for 5 minutes, mind you - if my life depended on it.
I just started watching today's episodes but had to pause so I can vent lol. So let me get this straight: lil Woe is Me SML (YX) is not only a snake with no morals and a coward, but a hypocrite, too. "Why don't you marry me, bla bla, you're ambitious, I am too. You're so bad for wanting to marry safe to keep the power". And then SFL rightly calls him out on the bs - once again - and he backtracks. "You'd do this?? First Ji Bozai, now me?? Marriage?!?". And let me tell you, the man is shocked, shooketh, and flabbergasted at the idea he just cockily proposed like .5s ago.
At this point, I wouldn't be opposed he get eaten by a particularly hangry red beastie, just saying. /rant
Leaving aside her natural cuteness, which I feel is a bit at odds with how she's had to portray a cold war god dude her entire life, I think they totally nailed FL's character, to be honest, especially in these last episodes. She's both incredibly strong & badass, yet soft & vulnerable when beaten down - after much effort by the bad guys, mind you.
As for ML, I love how cheeky he's allowing himself to be now that he's confirmed FL's feelings for him.
In other news: - the princess is such a nice surprise. She's not your regular SFL which I love, she's brave and strong herself and, while she does clearly have feelings for SML, she does not stand for his bullshit. - SML...I just don't like him. He's pretty, but he's a coward. Some dudes disrespected and pushed him down to the ground once so now he's allied himself with the literal devil. Cool, great. Also, actively killing his love's father. Attaboy, what can I say. - Situ Ling is basically an adorable, kicked puppy following our FL around. Cute, but too bad his setup is perfect for a spiral down the bad path. Never had power, always felt insecure about his lack of it, here's the perfect opportunity to get it, can lie to himself he's doing it to protect FL, etc. All the pieces falling into place.
Yeah, not the biggest supporter of the upcoming romantic relationship so far heh. Only on the second episode, but from what I've understood so far, ML invaded, she defended. Then she gets captured by him, tortured, drowned and beat by the ML and all she does is defend herself. Eventually, they'll fall in love. Insert confused guy meme here.
Just started this, so far it's interesting. But dear lord, can we not with the sort of tense wound tending scene right after he beat the ever living s*it out of her? lol
Yeah I was wondering if I missed something about the lawyer dude. I mean how did he get away with the kidnapping.…
I don't think we've missed anything. Unless it's a xianxia, bad people in cDramaland have one of two outcomes lol: 1. They're forgiven/given a redemption arc 2. They disappear into the abyss never to be seen from again
Started strong, lost its way around the middle, ended strong - with the caveat of the usual cdrama silliness; i.e. suddenly forgiving scourge of the earth parents or crazy lawyer dude getting away with kidnapping.
On the plus plus plus side, Zhao Lusi is great in this. I've always loved her in more serious roles. Yeah, she can do comedy, she's naturally funny and extremely lively, but she can also do serious. If you liked her here, you'd like her in Love like the Galaxy. And the child actor playing Haochen is great.
I'm not sure what I watched, but: 1. FL is genuinely obsessed with a firefighter who saved her life 10 years in the past and says she's in love with him; proceeds to stalk him into submission. 2. It takes thunder, storms, a fever, a rescue from a burning building (FL saves ML), a bomb strapped to the FL lol and more to make the ML either admit he has feelings for her or he was wrong.
So..you know, to each his own, if that sounds appealing, enjoy.
Made it to episode 6 and sadly..this just ain't for me. I know it's not the actors because I've seen them in other shows and they were great. I absolutely love Between Us and the performances there were super solid. But here it's like..they're phoning it in?
The dialogue is unbelievable, in the most literal sense, and cringey at times. The fight scenes are atrocious, the editing seems to want to cover the lack of a bigger budget for special effects (maybe) but it comes across as questionable and choppy.
Big oof. The 180 change of the ML just doesn't hit right now, he just comes across as annoying, to me. Yes, he's suddenly in tune with his emotions and, apparently, has always loved her, but what exactly is he doing to prove that? Impeding the divorce proceedings, barging into her house, barging into her office..luckily Fl doesn't own a vacation home or he'd barge into that too.
Plus I feel like there's a tonal disconnect between the start of the series and current episodes. For someone as scheming, cold, calculating as ML to be reading relationship advice books and act clingy is very out of character. Too much out of character, I guess. Whereas FL's character has been pretty constant in her actions & reactions.
As a contrast, I really liked the office scene. He helped her in a very serious, tangible way while also taking an interest in her business, that was very cool of him. I for one would love to see more of that, less of him checking under her bed. Still enjoy the show though.
It's the fact that SHM's talking about getting her back when he has never even considered apologising for what…
I agree with this take. I mean, he regrets it and clearly is able to say he was wrong, just not to her face I guess. Plus it's true that he can't really say he's missing her right now because she's just as present in his life as before, except they don't share living spaces. Whenever he needs something - or his son does - they summon her and, because she's attached - she comes. Again, unless, it's not very evident how the timeline is exactly and they actually go loong periods of time without seeing eo.
Think that's the first blunder (unless I missed something) with the timeline so far. Her saying she's met JL a month (or months ago), but everything happening inside the cooling off period which is 30 days.
I was speaking more from the perspective of the writing/the story. His character is being used as comic relief while at the same time as horror inducing. Like..the music changes in the scene, it's tense, she screams, he gets grabby, stuff like that. So on the one hand, it's clear they wanted to show that moment as scary. But then they switch around and make him all goofy and bozo-ish and she's sighing and taking care of him. It doesn't make sense to me. Specifically, it doesn't make sense that she would stand for that when there's clearly no love lost there and she was genuinely scared a moment before.
LE: I just realized this, but it's also confusing for me, as a viewer, because I'm not sure how I'm supposed to react/understand Bad U Ju's character. Hate him whenever he's on screen or giggle at his antics.
I know Kdramas in general have this insidious habit of not letting a single "bad" character stay bad - always with the redemption arcs or forgiveness - and so they probably can't afford to make him a total villain, but for me that's such a swing and a miss. Sometimes, people are just shite and it's okay to portray characters like that.
P.S. : Speaking of Kdramas and their penchant for forgiving the unforgivable, I'm pretty sure I watched a drama where the main "villainess" gets forgiven with a 'water under the bridge' comment for basically manslaughter, lol.
And then she's feeding him in the hospital and it's played for laughs, our leads have to deal with the "bozo" and they roll their eyes and it's all fun. But man, if you want an obsessed, borderline violent character, let's acknowledge that he's that, not just "funny because soo annoying".
I swear, these Kdramas make me wonder if I had an unusual childhood, because honestly, I barely remember what I did last week — I couldn’t tell you a thing about some kid I met 20 years ago - for 5 minutes, mind you - if my life depended on it.
So let me get this straight: lil Woe is Me SML (YX) is not only a snake with no morals and a coward, but a hypocrite, too.
"Why don't you marry me, bla bla, you're ambitious, I am too. You're so bad for wanting to marry safe to keep the power". And then SFL rightly calls him out on the bs - once again - and he backtracks. "You'd do this?? First Ji Bozai, now me?? Marriage?!?". And let me tell you, the man is shocked, shooketh, and flabbergasted at the idea he just cockily proposed like .5s ago.
At this point, I wouldn't be opposed he get eaten by a particularly hangry red beastie, just saying. /rant
As for ML, I love how cheeky he's allowing himself to be now that he's confirmed FL's feelings for him.
In other news:
- the princess is such a nice surprise. She's not your regular SFL which I love, she's brave and strong herself and, while she does clearly have feelings for SML, she does not stand for his bullshit.
- SML...I just don't like him. He's pretty, but he's a coward. Some dudes disrespected and pushed him down to the ground once so now he's allied himself with the literal devil. Cool, great. Also, actively killing his love's father. Attaboy, what can I say.
- Situ Ling is basically an adorable, kicked puppy following our FL around. Cute, but too bad his setup is perfect for a spiral down the bad path. Never had power, always felt insecure about his lack of it, here's the perfect opportunity to get it, can lie to himself he's doing it to protect FL, etc. All the pieces falling into place.
1. They're forgiven/given a redemption arc
2. They disappear into the abyss never to be seen from again
On the plus plus plus side, Zhao Lusi is great in this. I've always loved her in more serious roles. Yeah, she can do comedy, she's naturally funny and extremely lively, but she can also do serious. If you liked her here, you'd like her in Love like the Galaxy. And the child actor playing Haochen is great.
1. FL is genuinely obsessed with a firefighter who saved her life 10 years in the past and says she's in love with him; proceeds to stalk him into submission.
2. It takes thunder, storms, a fever, a rescue from a burning building (FL saves ML), a bomb strapped to the FL lol and more to make the ML either admit he has feelings for her or he was wrong.
So..you know, to each his own, if that sounds appealing, enjoy.
The dialogue is unbelievable, in the most literal sense, and cringey at times. The fight scenes are atrocious, the editing seems to want to cover the lack of a bigger budget for special effects (maybe) but it comes across as questionable and choppy.
Shame, shame, was looking forward to it. Oh well.
Plus I feel like there's a tonal disconnect between the start of the series and current episodes. For someone as scheming, cold, calculating as ML to be reading relationship advice books and act clingy is very out of character. Too much out of character, I guess. Whereas FL's character has been pretty constant in her actions & reactions.
As a contrast, I really liked the office scene. He helped her in a very serious, tangible way while also taking an interest in her business, that was very cool of him. I for one would love to see more of that, less of him checking under her bed. Still enjoy the show though.
Think that's the first blunder (unless I missed something) with the timeline so far. Her saying she's met JL a month (or months ago), but everything happening inside the cooling off period which is 30 days.