This drama is a mess. It was enjoyable at the beginning but now even rooting for the main couple is difficult.…
No, it may be messy if you can't follow along this non-linear storytelling and subtle and less than subtle subs dialog.
ML was basically a hostage in the relationship with his stalker ex gf. His father didn't bother to share information either about the wedding. ML didn't share anything with the 2FL and repeatedly tried to break up. ML tried to lay low, apprear ๐ but kept getting pulled back in to this hostage situation (relationship).
Did you miss the title of this drama? They are adorable.
Gu Won (KTL) and Secret Garden similarities. ML's initial reluctance, complete flip for FL is hilarious. He's talking to himself to get a grip, she's running away from the cringe.๐ She gets mad for him drinking the Love potion while denying her feelings for him.
How many dramas does a ML do a PP dance? ๐ ๐
ML and FL both stated on the beach coworkers, employer would turn on them.
This is why he tried to have a clean break, spend time alone and have a late start with his FL. (explained on beach)
She's adorable and will save him from the curse.
Photos without consent (illegal) and shared again. The trashy co-workers, office workers are 100% responsible for sharing, talking about these photos.
Standing next to a person doesn't mean you're having an intimate relationship or either person is promiscuous.
Korea is a small country and I remember watching a crime documentary in which they said most places are very near…
Wouldn't traffic be horrible, I get you can get around by train quickly in some parts in Asia/Europe that have fast trains,network. The odds of picking the same spot is highly suspicious.
Good catch, I'm glad ML keeps suspecting 2ML too.Why was 2ML doing late at night potting by the FL in EP10 ?2ML…
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2FL isn't the mastermind, villain in this drama. Her witnessing Shamanism, she blurted out the label pervert. Gardener doing all the stalking isn't believable.
There's too many coincidences that have piled up with the 2ML to be bystander.
Who did he talk to on the phone gitfting a house deposit, threaten to change his Cell# causing him move to the first floor of a person who recently confessed?
NY and that creepy gardener guy are getting very annoying to me. Do they think spreading those pictures is going…
Rofl, apparently you haven't by posting this comment. Haven't watched EP11 but thinking about rituals Gardener is burying items beneath potted plants 2ML is up late at night doing something similar and get pepper sprayed.
2ML knows FL/ML are worried about "suspicious, stalking" incidents.
You don't do gardening, potting in cold weather outside at night.
Fantasy rom com with thriller partsML is cursed, FL is the good Witch (Shaman)(ML killed FL in a past life)ML+FL…
ML Secret Garden Jo Won
A wealthy, successful ML becomes a Hot Mess after meeting the FL who's cast as a common person that doesn't bring wealth, social standing to the pairing.
I was right. By reading all the comments here, it really reminds me of โCrazy Loveโ era. ๐A drama with…
The more I watch DWY I'm reminded of Secret Garden with both leads having hurdles to overcome.
Fantasy, drinks, non-linear storytelling, ML's irrationality in his pursuit of crumbing the walls of the FL. The secondary characters opposed to the coupling are ultimately thwarted.
ML becomes infatuated very early while FL is in denial of her feelings. Both shows FL has a one sided crush that is slowly unwound by the FL/ML.
Friends don't date their friends mom or dad, it's understood a red line between friends. We don't date each other…
"We" isn't used to describe 100% of these situations but think of it as a general rule or guideline followed by a majority of people.
No one is preventing exceptions to the rule or guidelines.
The general rule is to choose a fit that is not too baggy or too tight, and that follows the natural shape of your legs. โMaverick Li, Men's Health, 22 Aug. 2023
I don't have data to support if the age gap of twenty years was popular in Ancient times but isn't popular today.
Public Opinion Would you agree female celebrities dating younger men is the exception, not common practice and it's frowned upon males today?
Exceptions to the rule still exist but its not widely accepted as a normal pairing.
Mom can give affection, spending time with that his friend as a surrogate mom/son etc.
The SML acting cutely at random times is so funny. It maybe unpopular opinion, but am sure a guy can still charm…
2ML Ha Joon plays an affable but boring foil to the ML perfectly.
FL initially is drawn to 2ML(one sided crush) but after spending time together realizes she's just not into him.
She trusts ML and becomes wary of 2ML. She dreams of ML and misses him after he falls ill, pauses his pursuit of her.
ML loses his mind, blames "Love Potion" and acts foolishly that ends the loneliness of the FL. He tries to find excuses why he's enthralled by her. Both ML & FL are denial of their romantic feelings and have entanglements that need to be addressed.
Compare dates car camping in parking lot or the date planned by ML.
I see parallels of Gu Won/Sa Rang -KTL dynamics play out in this too.
The Mystery of the Red Hand & Aeng Cho - Ep 9 & 10Commenting below and would love to know what others think (under…
Aeng Cho's hand was dismembered for Shamanism. ML was dealing with the cursed hand before he physically met FL. FL temporarily halted the curse but sketchy Gardener reapplied it. 2FL made contact with Gardener after he sent photos of ML & FL. Enemy of my enemy: 2FL hates FL, Gardener hates ML.
I think Aeng Cho got married to the past life version of the Gardener. I remember him telling her in the earlier…
๐ Good one She was dismembered for using magic. ๐
Past Life: Aeng Cho tells ML his mother left him a note and he's not studious. We see her being carried off and deposited to an elder lady (Shaman) her mentor.
At an early age ML asked about a military career, Aeng Cho sees a bloody hand and lies about him being a general or a foot soldier.
Joseon's military were ordered to kill Shamans, ML became cursed because they were already entangled. * ( YDCBSAI "Your destinies cannot be severed, accept it")
Is the gardener some stalker, remembers his past life as a Shaman and is cursing anyone who interferes including the ML?
In his past life the Gardener may be responsible for the death of the Aeng Cho because his actions triggered the military action against Shamanism. (Aeng Cho's mentor loves the King and her spell backfires) is mentioned?
You must be watching a different show.ML is being manipulated by 2FL/ his father in that non-intimate relationship.He…
You're not alone in being confused (non-linear) storytelling, flashbacks, editing.
In the beginning ML is told FL will lift curse, in a past life he killed her. We see he's working +100hrs/wk. and is distant with 2FL. She knows nothing about him (employment change, curse, likes etc.)
He repeatedly tries to show respect by asking for time apart and ends up rejecting EP3 at his Condo.
He becomes engaged because father/2FL manipulate him. Proposal party is a "sad" event everyone is gone, lights are dim with somber music. (ML is trapped again).
ML becomes literally a "Hot Mess" being unable to regulate his emotions and many of us watching are laughing at his antics. Both ML+FL are unprepared for his behaviour.
Absolutely correct to notice his "Hot and Cold" behaviour towards his romantic interest FL.
Both ML and FL are not experienced in dating or love. FL believed she was interested in the 2ML but there's no "butterflies" with him.
FL has fallen for ML but is in denial ( young kid and her on bench and at Subway) She keeps thinking about the ML not the 2ML.
He's in a hostage situation with his father, 2FL who keep foisting that pairing.
What's Wrong with Secretary Kim chair scene of "failure to kiss" was hilarious ๐
Context ML & FL are both upset, feeling jealous and struggling with all the entanglements.
2FL/2ML are both interfering with ML/FL.
FL was befriended by 2FL in high school and bullied again by her over a similar incident.
ML SY reminds me of GU Won from KTL, family were interfering with FL too and several times she was exposed to unpleasant situations. Serving at GU Won's engagement party, being relocated to a remote Hotel.
For those accusing the male lead of cheating? Are we all watching the same drama? He broke up with that chick…
Nailed it! It's funny reading comments blaming ML for not being clear to the stalker 2FL, his father who keep pulling him back toward that sham relationship.
A picture of her standing with 2ML isn't any of their business (Full stop)
She's not required to explain or defend herself in public either.
The photos are not evidence of anything, especially intimacy by ML or 2FL.
Reality:Tabloids, gossip sells and doesn't have to be fair, truthful.
It's natural to go silent and hide, her speaking up in the elevator was courageous.
ML was basically a hostage in the relationship with his stalker ex gf. His father didn't bother to share information either about the wedding.
ML didn't share anything with the 2FL and repeatedly tried to break up.
ML tried to lay low, apprear ๐ but kept getting pulled back in to this hostage situation (relationship).
Did you miss the title of this drama? They are adorable.
Gu Won (KTL) and Secret Garden similarities. ML's initial reluctance, complete flip for FL is hilarious. He's talking to himself to get a grip, she's running away from the cringe.๐
She gets mad for him drinking the Love potion while denying her feelings for him.
How many dramas does a ML do a PP dance? ๐ ๐
ML and FL both stated on the beach coworkers, employer would turn on them.
This is why he tried to have a clean break, spend time alone and have a late start with his FL. (explained on beach)
She's adorable and will save him from the curse.
Photos without consent (illegal) and shared again. The trashy co-workers, office workers are 100% responsible for sharing, talking about these photos.
Standing next to a person doesn't mean you're having an intimate relationship or either person is promiscuous.
The odds of picking the same spot is highly suspicious.
2FL isn't the mastermind, villain in this drama.
Her witnessing Shamanism, she blurted out the label pervert.
Gardener doing all the stalking isn't believable.
There's too many coincidences that have piled up with the 2ML to be bystander.
Who did he talk to on the phone gitfting a house deposit, threaten to change his Cell# causing him move to the first floor of a person who recently confessed?
Why was 2ML doing late at night potting by the FL in EP10 ?
2ML keeps popping up too often in front of FL.
FL is bringing clothing items to the Gardener to use in Curses (may be putting them below the potted plants.
Gardener is sending photos of the FL to the 2FL to cause problems.
A new flower pot ends up in ML's office.
2ML is pepper sprayed while doing some potting outside her residence upstairs at night.
Haven't watched EP11 but thinking about rituals
Gardener is burying items beneath potted plants
2ML is up late at night doing something similar and get pepper sprayed.
2ML knows FL/ML are worried about "suspicious, stalking" incidents.
You don't do gardening, potting in cold weather outside at night.
ML points out noise from K.W.'s office with a female and runs away in embarrassment.
Couldn't care less about the secondary relationships and the less time spent on them the better.
A wealthy, successful ML becomes a Hot Mess after meeting the FL who's cast as a common person that doesn't bring wealth, social standing to the pairing.
Fantasy, drinks, non-linear storytelling, ML's irrationality in his pursuit of crumbing the walls of the FL. The secondary characters opposed to the coupling are ultimately thwarted.
ML becomes infatuated very early while FL is in denial of her feelings. Both shows FL has a one sided crush that is slowly unwound by the FL/ML.
They were destined to be together.
FL reminds me of Secret Gardens Gil Ra Im without the violence. Both FL have a one-sided crush on 2ML but ML wins them over.
ML is cursed, FL is the good Witch (Shaman)
(ML killed FL in a past life)
ML+FL (KTL, WWWSK)
ML becomes a hot mess, FL is in denial of her attraction and chaos erupts.
2FL/2ML attempts fail to stop this pairing.
Non-liner story telling, flashbacks of Joseon era Past lives
ML reminds of Gu Won from KTL.
No one is preventing exceptions to the rule or guidelines.
The general rule is to choose a fit that is not too baggy or too tight, and that follows the natural shape of your legs.
โMaverick Li, Men's Health, 22 Aug. 2023
I don't have data to support if the age gap of twenty years was popular in Ancient times but isn't popular today.
Public Opinion
Would you agree female celebrities dating younger men is the exception, not common practice and it's frowned upon males today?
Exceptions to the rule still exist but its not widely accepted as a normal pairing.
Mom can give affection, spending time with that his friend as a surrogate mom/son etc.
I'd prefer as little screen time to the secondary characters as we're in the second half of this show.
Flesh out the backstory, mysticism and get the ML+FL removing any doubt of their relationship at work and his family.
Is it too much to ask for an accident to occur removing Gardner, 2FL from the Chessboard this week?๐
We can leave the 2ML to chasing his tail unless he's also a stalker, bad guy.
FL initially is drawn to 2ML(one sided crush) but after spending time together realizes she's just not into him.
She trusts ML and becomes wary of 2ML. She dreams of ML and misses him after he falls ill, pauses his pursuit of her.
ML loses his mind, blames "Love Potion" and acts foolishly that ends the loneliness of the FL.
He tries to find excuses why he's enthralled by her.
Both ML & FL are denial of their romantic feelings and have entanglements that need to be addressed.
Compare dates car camping in parking lot or the date planned by ML.
I see parallels of Gu Won/Sa Rang -KTL dynamics play out in this too.
ML was dealing with the cursed hand before he physically met FL.
FL temporarily halted the curse but sketchy Gardener reapplied it.
2FL made contact with Gardener after he sent photos of ML & FL.
Enemy of my enemy: 2FL hates FL, Gardener hates ML.
Good one
She was dismembered for using magic. ๐
Past Life: Aeng Cho tells ML his mother left him a note and he's not studious. We see her being carried off and deposited to an elder lady (Shaman) her mentor.
At an early age ML asked about a military career, Aeng Cho sees a bloody hand and lies about him being a general or a foot soldier.
Joseon's military were ordered to kill Shamans, ML became cursed because they were already entangled. * ( YDCBSAI "Your destinies cannot be severed, accept it")
Is the gardener some stalker, remembers his past life as a Shaman and is cursing anyone who interferes including the ML?
In his past life the Gardener may be responsible for the death of the Aeng Cho because his actions triggered the military action against Shamanism.
(Aeng Cho's mentor loves the King and her spell backfires) is mentioned?
In the beginning ML is told FL will lift curse, in a past life he killed her.
We see he's working +100hrs/wk. and is distant with 2FL. She knows nothing about him (employment change, curse, likes etc.)
He repeatedly tries to show respect by asking for time apart and ends up rejecting EP3 at his Condo.
He becomes engaged because father/2FL manipulate him. Proposal party is a "sad" event everyone is gone, lights are dim with somber music. (ML is trapped again).
ML becomes literally a "Hot Mess" being unable to regulate his emotions and many of us watching are laughing at his antics.
Both ML+FL are unprepared for his behaviour.
Absolutely correct to notice his "Hot and Cold" behaviour towards his romantic interest FL.
Both ML and FL are not experienced in dating or love. FL believed she was interested in the 2ML but there's no "butterflies" with him.
FL has fallen for ML but is in denial ( young kid and her on bench and at Subway) She keeps thinking about the ML not the 2ML.
He's in a hostage situation with his father, 2FL who keep foisting that pairing.
What's Wrong with Secretary Kim chair scene of "failure to kiss" was hilarious ๐
Context ML & FL are both upset, feeling jealous and struggling with all the entanglements.
2FL/2ML are both interfering with ML/FL.
FL was befriended by 2FL in high school and bullied again by her over a similar incident.
ML SY reminds me of GU Won from KTL, family were interfering with FL too and several times she was exposed to unpleasant situations.
Serving at GU Won's engagement party, being relocated to a remote Hotel.
It's funny reading comments blaming ML for not being clear to the stalker 2FL, his father who keep pulling him back toward that sham relationship.